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Marshall unlucky not to get another run after his promising debut but I guess he loses his place to Roo.
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Re: Team v Eagles
He also isn't very quick, struggles to stick tackles, gets caught too often and has a bad habit of playing for free kicks instead of going for the ball. I don't see a future in the AFL for him.bigcarl wrote:Has all the ingredients for success except size. He can probably overcome that. Others have.bigred wrote:I feel for the kid, I really do. Has heaps of talent, just not the full package.
But it was just doing my head in for the last month.
Became my whipping boy and I fkn hate that.
His finishing ability (shots for goal) is a worry, too, but he's not on his own there.
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Not that the selectors care, but how about some flair: interchange options include N. Wright 185cm still to recover from broken leg; Steele 187cm best known for his great run at Freo to pull off a goal saving tackle and disproportionate number of handballs, Weller 183cm last played a good game when - in the wings young talent Battle 190+cms and Marshall 201cm being apparently jerked around as: emergencies, in one game out another then even in and out in the same game. Are we so pleased with 9 wins that we must stick to the formulaic, perhaps there is there no faith in the youth, maybe their is some unwritten seniority criteria, maybe having a young 201cm forward/defender rather than a183cm trier so upsets our delicate running like a dream team set up that it is preposterous to even think it. Old chestnut, definition of insanity - keep doing the same and see if something changes. Excellent wins seem to be outliers for us. Percentage and so many lost opportunities are what, invalid indicators? I'd even be impressed if both Hickey and Longer played it would be a fresh approach. I'm confident Adam Simpson isn't spending too much time wondering which of any or if all of Weller, Wright or Steele play. By way of reference to Battle and Marshall who both show good stuff: I would like to think in hindsight Paddy would have been handle differently - not had so many games in the VFL bear pit (like would you run Winx on the sand in Darwin) and not have his debut a last minute call up in the wet in a 70 point flogging by Collingwood because the imperative was to let Nick have until an hour before to prove his fitness. Nick' is v. Important but doesn't mean we can't walk and chew gum. Are the selector's too risk averse I wonder. What is said to Battle and Marshall - your time will come but at the moment we think Nathan and Mav are better chances to win us games - but they won't be around forever, trust us.
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Re: Team v Eagles
Saints caught in the "still could make it to September" mode.
They need to sort out the list for next year and give a few games to Lonie, Wright, McKenzie which all look like duds to me. Lets face it with our percentage we have stuff all chance of making it. Give some of the c graders a go to see if they have anything to offer. If not trade them.
They need to sort out the list for next year and give a few games to Lonie, Wright, McKenzie which all look like duds to me. Lets face it with our percentage we have stuff all chance of making it. Give some of the c graders a go to see if they have anything to offer. If not trade them.
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Re: Team v Eagles
Lonie had a few games so the club could assess.repta wrote:Saints caught in the "still could make it to September" mode.
They need to sort out the list for next year and give a few games to Lonie, Wright, McKenzie which all look like duds to me. Lets face it with our percentage we have stuff all chance of making it. Give some of the c graders a go to see if they have anything to offer. If not trade them.
He played poorly in them, so dropping him now indicates (to me anyway) that he's going to be delisted.
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Re: Team v Eagles
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Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
I/change; Steele, Stevens, White, Weller.
Emergencies; Hickey, Wright, McKenzie.
Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
I hope Weller plays a good game this weekend. He needs to, to justify the selectors faith in him after so many poor games.
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Only in this mode because we have to win this week. if we dont i think itd be best to get the kids out there. id still have a crack only due to roo announcing retirement i think they have to give it everything for the next month.WellardSaint wrote:Lonie had a few games so the club could assess.repta wrote:Saints caught in the "still could make it to September" mode.
They need to sort out the list for next year and give a few games to Lonie, Wright, McKenzie which all look like duds to me. Lets face it with our percentage we have stuff all chance of making it. Give some of the c graders a go to see if they have anything to offer. If not trade them.
He played poorly in them, so dropping him now indicates (to me anyway) that he's going to be delisted.
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In terms of Lonie hes a good VFL player and not a shot at him i think the recruiters really f**ked up when they big upped Caleb Daniel who was outstanding in the carnival but then took lonie. that actually annoys me because having him and gresh wouldve been something special.
Wright i like due to his scrappiness and i thought he'd found a niche up forward but he cant play himself into a game. He was the perfect sub rule player.
Mackenzie can only go so far for being a trier and a tough nut. Composure is a massive issue for him. its like a deer i headlights and panics when he has the ball.
Also i know Acres is frustrating but is it worth playing him as a pure forward with with; Gresh, Acres, Billings, Membrey, Bruce, Roo/Paddy/Battle/Marshall.Or have i been missing something during his career? Seems to always play well near the sticks but is mindless the further away he gets.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
I agree, a surprising decision.Beno88 wrote:Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
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I get its weird, but its a massive catch 22. Cant keep dropping blokes in the leadership team (not a good look or reflection on the side) but Cant play him because hes not up to scratch ATM. Kinda stuck really.George27 wrote:I agree, a surprising decision.Beno88 wrote:Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
Get off the fence Wombat!!!!!Wombat15 wrote:I get its weird, but its a massive catch 22. Cant keep dropping blokes in the leadership team (not a good look or reflection on the side) but Cant play him because hes not up to scratch ATM. Kinda stuck really.George27 wrote:I agree, a surprising decision.Beno88 wrote:Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
The assessment of Second Round Draft picks emphasises the importance of First Round Draft picks
You will get a Sam Fisher but that is rare indeed
So the rebuild is about First Round Draft picks, attracting players such as Carlisle and fingers crossed that a couple of later round Draft picks outperform the original assessment of them aka Sam Fisher as the example
Fisher was a mature age pick from West Adelaide where he was playing CHF at SANFL League level
The likes of Daniel had established at League level in the SANFL where each of Aish, Dumont and Fantasia had played in premiership sides ahead of being Drafted as 18 year olds
You will get a Sam Fisher but that is rare indeed
So the rebuild is about First Round Draft picks, attracting players such as Carlisle and fingers crossed that a couple of later round Draft picks outperform the original assessment of them aka Sam Fisher as the example
Fisher was a mature age pick from West Adelaide where he was playing CHF at SANFL League level
The likes of Daniel had established at League level in the SANFL where each of Aish, Dumont and Fantasia had played in premiership sides ahead of being Drafted as 18 year olds
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
Yeah, the Weller love from the coach is really frustrating.George27 wrote:I agree, a surprising decision.Beno88 wrote:Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
I don't want to write Mav off but he was really really bad and he excels at all the things that cost us games. Easily brushed off, doesn't get enough ball and misses set shots.
Should have gone before D-Mac
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
DMAc should have kept his place. I at least want to see Jack Steven start to attack the loose ball as hard as Dmac did last week.Beno88 wrote:Weller selected ahead of McKenzie is a joke. DMac played his guts out last week and was one of very few who took the game on, whereas like most of 2017, Mav went missing.
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Just gotta win thats all I want. These pr1cks got over the line last time here from dubious frees once again and that one Priddis got in the pocket for the softest free ever. I am sill angry about that game I wanted to kill someone.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
Is a frog's bum watertight?realdeal wrote:Opposition ruck watch.. Will Drew Petrie be BOG this game..!?
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
And then the last time in round 2 when the umps bent us over and rogered us goodPwoit wrote:Just gotta win thats all I want. These pr1cks got over the line last time here from dubious frees once again and that one Priddis got in the pocket for the softest free ever. I am sill angry about that game I wanted to kill someone.
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
Weller should go back to the twos, has been unimpressive for a while , Lonie has had more than a good run.
It's not quite time experiment tho.... if it's mathematically possible ( though unlikely ) to make finals no team would use this time to look at new players. These games are actually good for the team as we have to play finals like pressure if we are to survive.
We owe the Weagles one .... hoping we pump them
It's not quite time experiment tho.... if it's mathematically possible ( though unlikely ) to make finals no team would use this time to look at new players. These games are actually good for the team as we have to play finals like pressure if we are to survive.
We owe the Weagles one .... hoping we pump them
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Re: Team v Eagles Riewoldt, Stevens in for McKenzie, Lonie.
glad to see Stevens in and McKenzie unlucky, can't see Lonie getting back in the team for a while now.
all of Stevens, Acres, Steven, and Dunstan can effectively rest forward and all can kick goals, so in terms of balance don't think we need more than two full time small forwards i.e. for this game Weller + Gresham.
all of Stevens, Acres, Steven, and Dunstan can effectively rest forward and all can kick goals, so in terms of balance don't think we need more than two full time small forwards i.e. for this game Weller + Gresham.
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