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Saints drop 4 players.
Just announced on CH7.
But not yet which 4.
But not yet which 4.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
There was a close up of Hickey though....
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
IN: J. Webster, B. Longer, L. Dunstan, B. Acres, R. Marshall
OUT: S. Gilbert (hand), T. Hickey (omitted), D. McKenzie (omitted) B. Long (omitted), J. Battle (omitted)
OUT: S. Gilbert (hand), T. Hickey (omitted), D. McKenzie (omitted) B. Long (omitted), J. Battle (omitted)
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Battle was a bit stiff not to get one more go but the rest are pretty hard to argue with,Saintly66 wrote:IN: J. Webster, B. Longer, L. Dunstan, B. Acres, R. Marshall
OUT: S. Gilbert (hand), T. Hickey (omitted), D. McKenzie (omitted) B. Long (omitted), J. Battle (omitted)
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
I think Battle was a casualty of Gilbert being injured - they need a second ruck and without Membrey they probably cannot afford to use Bruce in that role.whiskers3614 wrote:Battle was a bit stiff not to get one more go but the rest are pretty hard to argue with,Saintly66 wrote:IN: J. Webster, B. Longer, L. Dunstan, B. Acres, R. Marshall
OUT: S. Gilbert (hand), T. Hickey (omitted), D. McKenzie (omitted) B. Long (omitted), J. Battle (omitted)
Therefore Marshall gets a chance to play up forward and as a ruck option.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Bonus with Bruce too as with Marshall in, Bruce will not have to play the second ruck role which he struggles with.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
pleasing to see the club admitting mistake with Battle and doing the right thing.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
So have I and he's ready!millarsaint wrote:pleasing to see the club admitting mistake with Battle and doing the right thing.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Lets not forget that we tradedSaintly66 wrote:IN: J. Webster, B. Longer, L. Dunstan, B. Acres, R. Marshall
OUT: S. Gilbert (hand), T. Hickey (omitted), D. McKenzie (omitted) B. Long (omitted), J. Battle (omitted)
2016 pick 10 (became 11 as the draft progressed) + 2016 pick 68 (became pick 63) for
Hawthorn's 2017 first rounder presently pick 6 + Ben Long + Josh Battle
We need either one or both of Long or Battle to become a player of the future.
At present I fear we may have been mislead on Long.
He starred in the VFL finals series as a top up to the Dog's AFL listed players.
He may have been fortunate in that he got little attention from the opposition, ignored after all the AFL listed Dogs players.
But it is still too early to be sure on either of these kids.
North's 2017 4th rounder presently sitting at pick 56
We traded 2016 pick 50 (became 49) + St Kilda's 5th rounder presently pick 82 for
Norths 2017 4th rounder presently 56 + Ed Phillips + Kobi Stevens
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
3 debutants this year, maybe by the end of the year we can bring in freeman and rice and make it 5
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
How is debuting a young kid in a development year ever a mistake?millarsaint wrote:pleasing to see the club admitting mistake with Battle and doing the right thing.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
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Plus ONE! From me!Johnny Member wrote:How is debuting a young kid in a development year ever a mistake?millarsaint wrote:pleasing to see the club admitting mistake with Battle and doing the right thing.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
He has had a taste and realised just how fast the action is.Johnny Member wrote:How is debuting a young kid in a development year ever a mistake?millarsaint wrote:pleasing to see the club admitting mistake with Battle and doing the right thing.
makes you wonder though, I've seen Battle a few times at Sandy this year, and he was never ready.
Now he knows the level he must reach to become a regular.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Push Riewoldt up onto a wing, then Bruce toward centre half forward.saintsRrising wrote:Bonus with Bruce too as with Marshall in, Bruce will not have to play the second ruck role which he struggles with.
We need to get separation of our tall forwards so they don't bring their opponents to pack marking contest.
Riewoldt and Bruce flying in the same contest is ridiculous.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Roo and Bruce etc have been flying together all season and I don't think the coach has done much about it- pretty undisciplined. I think Roo just needs to pull back and stay up the ground a bit and not go too deep. Bruce is a dead loss as a backup ruck and should just be a dedicated forward. I think Acres might be playing forward this game.ace wrote:Push Riewoldt up onto a wing, then Bruce toward centre half forward.saintsRrising wrote:Bonus with Bruce too as with Marshall in, Bruce will not have to play the second ruck role which he struggles with.
We need to get separation of our tall forwards so they don't bring their opponents to pack marking contest.
Riewoldt and Bruce flying in the same contest is ridiculous.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
I have to wonder what the hell Aaron Hamill is thinking, while the forwards are watching a video review of a game.ace wrote:Push Riewoldt up onto a wing, then Bruce toward centre half forward.saintsRrising wrote:Bonus with Bruce too as with Marshall in, Bruce will not have to play the second ruck role which he struggles with.
We need to get separation of our tall forwards so they don't bring their opponents to pack marking contest.
Riewoldt and Bruce flying in the same contest is ridiculous.
Seeing Roo and Josh B spoiling each other. Do they just go <cough> and fast forward?
As it keeps happening, they must be ignoring it.
I can recall some nice marks where Rooey held off a defender so Baroose could mark, and vice versa.
But it happens as rarely as me getting an edible McMuffin from Maccas.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
When Baroose is asked to become a ruckman, he doesn't compete well (not his fault, he don't have the tools)spert wrote:Roo and Bruce etc have been flying together all season and I don't think the coach has done much about it- pretty undisciplined. I think Roo just needs to pull back and stay up the ground a bit and not go too deep. Bruce is a dead loss as a backup ruck and should just be a dedicated forward. I think Acres might be playing forward this game.ace wrote:Push Riewoldt up onto a wing, then Bruce toward centre half forward.saintsRrising wrote:Bonus with Bruce too as with Marshall in, Bruce will not have to play the second ruck role which he struggles with.
We need to get separation of our tall forwards so they don't bring their opponents to pack marking contest.
Riewoldt and Bruce flying in the same contest is ridiculous.
and he seems to be flat and tired for the next 15 minutes in the fwd line.
It's bloody ridiculous to hurt him that way.
Gilbo is the only player who can do backup ruckman, as he has perfect judgement as well as manic energy for great 2nd + 3rd efforts
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Changes show Richo is a good long term coach and a sensible risk taker/rewarder. Hard to argue any without being pedantic. Really like last couple of comments and Mr Whiskers'. There is a chance we will purr Sat. night.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Good to see the four omissions - we lose virtually nothing with them out.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Good changes IMO.
Battle had a taste and will be back.
DMac has slot of work to do to be a regular.
Biggest challenge of the year this week.
Win and we play finals and cast off the Swans hoo doo.
Dunstan and Acres need to bring their A game.
Go Saints.
Battle had a taste and will be back.
DMac has slot of work to do to be a regular.
Biggest challenge of the year this week.
Win and we play finals and cast off the Swans hoo doo.
Dunstan and Acres need to bring their A game.
Go Saints.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
the elephant in the room...Maverick Weller.
Remember him? He's in the leadership group.
Is he still carrying that ankle soreness?
He got 17 disposals for Zebs, and 8 tackles,
whereas Blake Acres got 26 and 8 tackles, but had a hard tag all day.
Go figure
Remember him? He's in the leadership group.
Is he still carrying that ankle soreness?
He got 17 disposals for Zebs, and 8 tackles,
whereas Blake Acres got 26 and 8 tackles, but had a hard tag all day.
Go figure
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
Happy with the changes, need the harder bodies like Longer and Dunstan against the Swines , really missed Webster loading up from the backline... nice to see another debutant who's also physically strong bodied... starting to think we may be in with a chance.. but it's probably our biggest gig for the year
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Well to be fair, Wellard was put into the leadership group when we were a bottom 4 team with no leaders.WellardSaint wrote:the elephant in the room...Maverick Weller.
Remember him? He's in the leadership group.
Is he still carrying that ankle soreness?
He got 17 disposals for Zebs, and 8 tackles,
whereas Blake Acres got 26 and 8 tackles, but had a hard tag all day.
Go figure
Maybe (and hopefully) we've improved. And when that occurs, some get left behind.
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Re: Saints drop 4 players.
I still maintain that Mav was bloody great last season and earned what he got... has been way down this season and deserved to be dropped.Johnny Member wrote:Well to be fair, Wellard was put into the leadership group when we were a bottom 4 team with no leaders.WellardSaint wrote:the elephant in the room...Maverick Weller.
Remember him? He's in the leadership group.
Is he still carrying that ankle soreness?
He got 17 disposals for Zebs, and 8 tackles,
whereas Blake Acres got 26 and 8 tackles, but had a hard tag all day.
Go figure
Maybe (and hopefully) we've improved. And when that occurs, some get left behind.
No need to write him off, let him work his way back in.