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Longer!!!!!
Anyone have any updates on how Billy is tracking for a return this week?????
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Re: Longer!!!!!
Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
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Re: Longer!!!!!
On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
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Sainternist wrote:On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
Thanks for the honesty and support, much appreciated!!!!!
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Re: Longer!!!!!
stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Ah, gotcha. No worries, Chief.saynta wrote:stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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No all good, makes sense now, no probs!!!!!saynta wrote:stonecold wrote:Not sure what your talking about, I have been backing Billy all season, and copped much criticism for it!!!!!saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I was talking about me, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Re: Longer!!!!!
If last week proved anything, it's that Longer should be our first choice by a country mile.
What has happened to Hickey. How can he go from career best form last season to some of worst we've seen him play in a Saints jumper this season? Bellchambers is not an elite ruck IMO but Hickey made him look like the new Dean Cox last Friday.
Surely it's between the ears?
What has happened to Hickey. How can he go from career best form last season to some of worst we've seen him play in a Saints jumper this season? Bellchambers is not an elite ruck IMO but Hickey made him look like the new Dean Cox last Friday.
Surely it's between the ears?
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I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
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Re: Longer!!!!!
I agree about Holmes doing in this week, has had over 110 hitouts over the last 2 weeks in the VFL I think, and in my opinion is an even better tap ruck then Billy (Billy does more blocking and bullock into in the stoppages which puts him ahead of Holmes as first ruck though. Hickey still looks underdone for me, as his ruck was as usual sub par by AFL standards, but his work around the ground is far below what we've been expecting of him.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
Let Holmes play until either of them is 100% fit again, I think both of them are part of our future
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I can't see us playing Holmes as surely their getting rid of him at the end of the year.Proph3t of egan wrote:I agree about Holmes doing in this week, has had over 110 hitouts over the last 2 weeks in the VFL I think, and in my opinion is an even better tap ruck then Billy (Billy does more blocking and bullock into in the stoppages which puts him ahead of Holmes as first ruck though. Hickey still looks underdone for me, as his ruck was as usual sub par by AFL standards, but his work around the ground is far below what we've been expecting of him.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
Let Holmes play until either of them is 100% fit again, I think both of them are part of our future
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So you think it makes sense to not pick the best team for this weekend based on who may or may not be playing next year?Jacks Back wrote: I can't see us playing Holmes as surely their getting rid of him at the end of the year.
Another view might be too that it gives Holmes one last chance to show that he is at least worthy as being retained as a back up ruck.
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Billy's on the bus(well plane anyway), let's hope he can prove he's fitness and play against the Swans. Provide first use and be at he's physical best and protect our mids as well as dropping back into Buddy's path!!!!!
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Sounds like a fun daystonecold wrote:Billy's on the bus(well plane anyway), let's hope he can prove he's fitness and play against the Swans. Provide first use and be at he's physical best and protect our mids as well as dropping back into Buddy's path!!!!!
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Lower back is what I heard.BackFromUSA wrote:I believe it is a knee injury restricting his leap. He only has a leap as his weapon in centre bounces. Then a loss of confidence from being noncompetitive as a result. Would love to see him rest up and get 100% fit and come again. Still believe he has value. Disappointed with Pierce as he has the tools but he seems to be lost. We should look at Holmes until Longer (and Hickey) are fully fit.
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Remember Barry Brooks? The boy from King Island. We gave away picks 6 and 31 to get him from Port Adelaide. He was meant to be the last piece in GT's premiership puzzle. A ruckman with a huge leap, who could also go forward and take a big grab. A good kick, too. He showed early promise until an ACL injury stopped him in his tracks. Bevo said Barry was never the same again. He lost his ability to jump, had no confidence in his repaired knee and slowly disappeared from the scene. Another case of, "what if?"
Maybe Hickey's knee injury earlier in the year is having a similar effect on his confidence. He's clearly not right, based on what we saw last week. I hope he recovers from whatever is ailing him. We need him firing and in form.
Maybe Hickey's knee injury earlier in the year is having a similar effect on his confidence. He's clearly not right, based on what we saw last week. I hope he recovers from whatever is ailing him. We need him firing and in form.
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Stone old you are so full of it ... in 2016 you wanted Longer traded , now you pretend to be some sort of. Guru ,,, I have pointed out Longers strengths since 2014 , both he and Hickey bring different things to the table, Hickeys got serious problems now we have the third man up rule, I believe I was also the first to pint this out ( though I stand to be corrected)stonecold wrote:Sainternist wrote:On the contrary, to Stonecold's credit, he has been backing Billy for a while.saynta wrote:Geez, you can go off a player quickly can't you. I did. Billy for me now.
I'm definitely keen for Billy's return after Hickey's uninspiring comeback to AFL level last week.
Thanks for the honesty and support, much appreciated!!!!!
I pointed out the differences between the two as early as 2014.
In fact last last year you wanted Longer traded !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: not there in 2017?
... nothing more. I think they'll keep Lee, but Delaney, Curren and Shenton are as good as gone. Pick 9/10 is on the table, I understand, along with Longer and the above mentioned. Steele, Marchbank, Hoskin Elliott and Mitchell are targets. Any two of those would make me very happy. Do it Saints. ...
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Re: Longer!!!!!
I myself had a premonition as early as 2005 that Longer would end up the clear number 1 ruck this year, I knew that Hickey would never make it once I saw his ruckwork in my minds eye
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You positive that's my post?????
Like really sure, are you?????
And if so, where does it say I wanted him gone, show me!!!!!
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Like really sure, are you?????
And if so, where does it say I wanted him gone, show me!!!!!
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Re: Longer!!!!!
The fact forumites here go on about how they were the one fan that believed in player x all along is highly irritating.
a) 9/10 it's not true
b) it's a fan forum, ppl like to discuss stuff as they see it at the time. Genius allows for a POV to change as new data arrives.
Not directing this at either you guys above but in general I wish the forum would move away from this type of thing
"I and only I always believed in Seb Ross and took the abuse
Screw everyone who wrote off Sam Gilbert"
And on and on it goes... multiple threads, brought up repeatedly, 2 ppl brought something like that up this weak to publicly pat themselves on the back.
It's such a stupid conversation
a) 9/10 it's not true
b) it's a fan forum, ppl like to discuss stuff as they see it at the time. Genius allows for a POV to change as new data arrives.
Not directing this at either you guys above but in general I wish the forum would move away from this type of thing
"I and only I always believed in Seb Ross and took the abuse
Screw everyone who wrote off Sam Gilbert"
And on and on it goes... multiple threads, brought up repeatedly, 2 ppl brought something like that up this weak to publicly pat themselves on the back.
It's such a stupid conversation
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Beaten by Naismith tonight, and Hickey was amongst the best at Kardinia Park in our win against Geelong.
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