Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
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Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
Some on hear may remeber Jack S's progression better than me...I'd love to look at it a little more closely. I certainly remeber him coning in as a srumbing small forward when he was first getting games...he was in and out of the team...what was he like in the vfl before he was a regular? did he play as mid as a junior? was he alwasy going to be a gun mid - not that many thought so going on his draft position?? When did he start transitioning more into the senior side in the mid field - i just can't rmemeber how long it took him to start getting good numbers and looking like a star of the suture with his explosve pace, two way running etc...
I will be howled down for this, but I think Lonie looks like he will have the ability to become a midfielder...he clearly does it well at VFl level getting huge numbers, he's got good pace off the mark, likes to tackle and has a good and growing tank...his field kicking has always been good and he has quick hands and pretty good evasion in traffic...Does he remind anyone else of a young steven before he was a star? Of all our young small forwards (gresham, minch, lonie, wright, sinclair...Billings has already shown he's clearly made it and will only get better) - I reckon Lonie and gresham show the most abilityto play in the middle and be very good mids, they just need opportunity. I can't see why they aren't given more middle time when dunstan and steele regularly struggle to crack 20 posi's a game with regularity just yet...surely playing these guys, and unclude minch in here...it's not like we have heaps to lose by trying more players as out and out mids...just a thought.
I will be howled down for this, but I think Lonie looks like he will have the ability to become a midfielder...he clearly does it well at VFl level getting huge numbers, he's got good pace off the mark, likes to tackle and has a good and growing tank...his field kicking has always been good and he has quick hands and pretty good evasion in traffic...Does he remind anyone else of a young steven before he was a star? Of all our young small forwards (gresham, minch, lonie, wright, sinclair...Billings has already shown he's clearly made it and will only get better) - I reckon Lonie and gresham show the most abilityto play in the middle and be very good mids, they just need opportunity. I can't see why they aren't given more middle time when dunstan and steele regularly struggle to crack 20 posi's a game with regularity just yet...surely playing these guys, and unclude minch in here...it's not like we have heaps to lose by trying more players as out and out mids...just a thought.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
I seem to remember Stuv debuting against a red hot Geelong, collecting a few possies, but notably exploding forward of the wing to slam through a sensational goal from half forward flank...or maybe that was a mix of his first few in a colourful sepia toned montage. However, IMO, he looked like a gun from day one. Anyway, Lyon dropped him the next week I believe.
I regard to Lonie, yes he loves a tackle, but they never stick...I reckon he just loves throwing himself about. Could he make it in the AFL as a mid? I'd only be guessing, I just hope he has a cracker tonight!
I regard to Lonie, yes he loves a tackle, but they never stick...I reckon he just loves throwing himself about. Could he make it in the AFL as a mid? I'd only be guessing, I just hope he has a cracker tonight!
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
He's got all the tools and the drive and attitude. The only thing really holding him back is size. Maybe he can stack on a few kilos, but I doubt he's going to get taller.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
He kicked the winning goal against the cats in a NAB cup game in the bush somewhere I think.degruch wrote:I seem to remember Stuv debuting against a red hot Geelong, collecting a few possies, but notably exploding forward of the wing to slam through a sensational goal from half forward flank...or maybe that was a mix of his first few in a colourful sepia toned montage. However, IMO, he looked like a gun from day one. Anyway, Lyon dropped him the next week I believe.
I regard to Lonie, yes he loves a tackle, but they never stick...I reckon he just loves throwing himself about. Could he make it in the AFL as a mid? I'd only be guessing, I just hope he has a cracker tonight!
His first real game was in Tassie against the Hawks in that famous 2009 game.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
I am confident that Jack Lonie will be just as good as Jack Steven.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
Lonie has the skills. But not Jack's pace!
With Jack in his games in the Twos you could see that touch of brilliance, even when he was having a quiet game, which made you take notice and think yes that this guy could be very good.
With Jack in his games in the Twos you could see that touch of brilliance, even when he was having a quiet game, which made you take notice and think yes that this guy could be very good.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
He was excellent in the VFL in 09 along with Armo
Should have been developed quicker
Should have been developed quicker
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
Lonie tends to throw his weight around a bit too much. You often see him having a go at a much bigger oppositian player. (Though he is battling to find a smaller one than himself).
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
His skills have dropped off.
Like almost everyone at the moment, he makes poor decisions, misses targets and misses goals.
You can't be a skillful little goal kicking small forward if you're not skillful and aren't kicking goals.
That's his problem.
Like almost everyone at the moment, he makes poor decisions, misses targets and misses goals.
You can't be a skillful little goal kicking small forward if you're not skillful and aren't kicking goals.
That's his problem.
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Re: Jack Steven - cast your minds back...
Lonie is a gun.
Ridiculous people here have no idea. He would be the most skilled player we have. You try playing senior footy at 177cm and what 69kg??
He is so light. Thats his only problem. If he can build strength he will be an amazing player. Heres hoping.
Ridiculous people here have no idea. He would be the most skilled player we have. You try playing senior footy at 177cm and what 69kg??
He is so light. Thats his only problem. If he can build strength he will be an amazing player. Heres hoping.