Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Jack Nicholson!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Shoot bambi??? If so, hope that Roo doesn't want to coach! Like every other player - he'd look ridiculous in that hideous West Coke jumper. ![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
+1Beno88 wrote:Joey will almost certainly retire at season's end. Roo's body will determine his future.
I think Joey is basically gone.
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Complete rubbish!
Joey probably still has the quickest and surest hands in the club.
He is structurally important.
He is smart, gets in the right positions, runs hard and kicks well.
He is particularly good when we are under pressure.
As for Roo.
He is as good a player as this club has ever had.
His influence is profound.
He is still our best forward.
He makes things happen, superb in the air.
Just oozes leadership and commands respect.
Both Monty and Roo are still in our top 8 players.
They are superb role models for our younger players.
When we do next play finals their experience will be vital.
They should both definitely play on next year and maybe beyond.
Joey probably still has the quickest and surest hands in the club.
He is structurally important.
He is smart, gets in the right positions, runs hard and kicks well.
He is particularly good when we are under pressure.
As for Roo.
He is as good a player as this club has ever had.
His influence is profound.
He is still our best forward.
He makes things happen, superb in the air.
Just oozes leadership and commands respect.
Both Monty and Roo are still in our top 8 players.
They are superb role models for our younger players.
When we do next play finals their experience will be vital.
They should both definitely play on next year and maybe beyond.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
stonecold wrote:Jack Nicholson!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
And that means what?????Sainternist wrote:stonecold wrote:Jack Nicholson!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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And there's the problem, no individual should be bigger than the Club!!!!!BigMart wrote:Nick and Joey would piss themselves laughing at this...
For the sake of our development as a Club and to be able to move forward, one should retire at seasons end!!!!!
They both carnt go the same year!!!!!
I no longer read your posts, but, thought I'd open this one and give you another opportunity, this thread is not a knock on either player by the way, just about what is best for the club and our long-term future!!!!! IMO!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Veterans are so underrated in this league. You can see how Joey has helped the likes of Billings, Webster and Roberton with their decision making etc. You can see the work Roo has put into Bruce and Membrey. I think you have to keep them on the list, absolute must. If they keep them on as rookies or have them on what id call a veterans minimum salary and use them like we did schiender then fair enough. BUT WE ARENT A CLUB THAT DUMPS VERTERANS! These blokes have probably received sizeable offers from other clubs and in a day and age where loyalty to a club is pretty much dead you have to reward that. Both have had 550+ games of experience and saved us numerous times from melting down in games.
If they are going to play i feel a more managed capacity would be more beneficial. Go with a 15 game a year complex. Let them get rest, play when required and even prolong their careers. this allows us to blood through the youngsters and learn to play without their presence on the field. It stops them burning out early in the season which seems to be currently happening.
Just as a concept it will allow us to give; Rice, NOK and even White a run more often. Up forward it may allow Long, Marshall, Lonie etc to get a more consistent role and see what out list has in terms of depth.
If they are going to play i feel a more managed capacity would be more beneficial. Go with a 15 game a year complex. Let them get rest, play when required and even prolong their careers. this allows us to blood through the youngsters and learn to play without their presence on the field. It stops them burning out early in the season which seems to be currently happening.
Just as a concept it will allow us to give; Rice, NOK and even White a run more often. Up forward it may allow Long, Marshall, Lonie etc to get a more consistent role and see what out list has in terms of depth.
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
yeah we are - its rare a club doesnt anymoreWombat15 wrote: BUT WE ARENT A CLUB THAT DUMPS VERTERANS!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
So who have we given the dumping treatment to then? this should be purely based on who couldve gone another season being in the best 22 of any AFL side. I.e Stevie J, Burgoyne, Petrie etc.sunsaint wrote:yeah we are - its rare a club doesnt anymoreWombat15 wrote: BUT WE ARENT A CLUB THAT DUMPS VERTERANS!
In my eyes over the last 10+ years our club has been very respectful to the vets. We give them to opportunity to end their careers on their terms.
Dal Santo is the only one that continued on elsewhere due to the d**khead scott watters creating a divide between senior and younger core.
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Goddard still playing elsewhere.Wombat15 wrote:So who have we given the dumping treatment to then? this should be purely based on who couldve gone another season being in the best 22 of any AFL side. I.e Stevie J, Burgoyne, Petrie etc.sunsaint wrote:yeah we are - its rare a club doesnt anymoreWombat15 wrote: BUT WE ARENT A CLUB THAT DUMPS VERTERANS!
In my eyes over the last 10+ years our club has been very respectful to the vets. We give them to opportunity to end their careers on their terms.
Dal Santo is the only one that continued on elsewhere due to the d**khead scott watters creating a divide between senior and younger core.
In both cases they could not be retained under the salary cap.
No-one terminated early.
But it is easy to let them know their time is up by dropping them to Sandy.
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Stevie Baker, Stevie Milne, Jason Blake, Luke Ball, Nick Dal Santo, Clint Jones, Sean Dempster
Did any of those have smooth exits from StK... from what I understand, all wanted to go on...
Not saying they should've but using the argument about being loyal to players is rubbish, it's a business
Did any of those have smooth exits from StK... from what I understand, all wanted to go on...
Not saying they should've but using the argument about being loyal to players is rubbish, it's a business
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
Just a reference to the title of your thread.stonecold wrote:And that means what?????Sainternist wrote:stonecold wrote:Jack Nicholson!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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That's ok, I thought it may have been Cryptic!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Just a reference to the title of your thread.stonecold wrote:And that means what?????Sainternist wrote:stonecold wrote:Jack Nicholson!!!!!Sainternist wrote:Give it a rest, Stonecold. They'll do what's right for the club.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
And this is the kind of thought process Enrico_Misso that has made the Saints the worst performing team in the history of the game. Rooey and Joey should retire at the end of this season if they really love the club. This will enable the Saints to not only get Fyfe but probably Martin as well. We need to grow some balls and make the hard decisions and if that means shooting Bambi then we must do it.Enrico_Misso wrote:Complete rubbish!
Joey probably still has the quickest and surest hands in the club.
He is structurally important.
He is smart, gets in the right positions, runs hard and kicks well.
He is particularly good when we are under pressure.
As for Roo.
He is as good a player as this club has ever had.
His influence is profound.
He is still our best forward.
He makes things happen, superb in the air.
Just oozes leadership and commands respect.
Both Monty and Roo are still in our top 8 players.
They are superb role models for our younger players.
When we do next play finals their experience will be vital.
They should both definitely play on next year and maybe beyond.
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
As much as it pains me to do so, I have to agree with you.citywest wrote:And this is the kind of thought process Enrico_Misso that has made the Saints the worst performing team in the history of the game. Rooey and Joey should retire at the end of this season if they really love the club. This will enable the Saints to not only get Fyfe but probably Martin as well. We need to grow some balls and make the hard decisions and if that means shooting Bambi then we must do it.Enrico_Misso wrote:Complete rubbish!
Joey probably still has the quickest and surest hands in the club.
He is structurally important.
He is smart, gets in the right positions, runs hard and kicks well.
He is particularly good when we are under pressure.
As for Roo.
He is as good a player as this club has ever had.
His influence is profound.
He is still our best forward.
He makes things happen, superb in the air.
Just oozes leadership and commands respect.
Both Monty and Roo are still in our top 8 players.
They are superb role models for our younger players.
When we do next play finals their experience will be vital.
They should both definitely play on next year and maybe beyond.
Most clubs have off-loaded favourite sons.
Norf let go of Petrie, and a few others, with media polarised over the move.
Stevie J was told DCM by the Cats...(don't come monday)
Hawks traded Sam M and Lewis;
the lists have to be changed, change is inevitable.
If the club is serious, Joey and Roo have to go to make room for our new players and allow Zebs to come up.
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Gezz, lots jumping on this now, took their time!!!!!
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As previously stated, put a fork in Joey, he's now overly Cooked, list Clogger!!!!!
Some people play too long!!!!!
Some people play too long!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
We don't have anyone good enough to replace them with ATM.
Zeus have been poor the last three weeks.
Zeus have been poor the last three weeks.
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Yep he's charcoal nowstonecold wrote:As previously stated, put a fork in Joey, he's now overly Cooked, list Clogger!!!!!
Some people play too long!!!!!
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Re: Time to shoot Bambi!!!!!
We REALLY lack in leadership, well there isn't any at all. So we need Rooey - if he is up to it. As for Joey, he is done. No disrespect for either. Both have been fabulous players for us especially Rooey. Hard to imagine St Kilda without him. But where do we get a leader from, we have NONE who are prepared to do it or are good enough................. sadly.