Tom Hickey injury?
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Re: Tom Hickey injury?
It didn't look good. His leg got stuck and twisted on a sharp angle.
Assume scans this morning. Fingers crossed.
Assume scans this morning. Fingers crossed.
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Bummer for the big dude. Longer gets an extended shot at it now. Hopefully Hicks can come back strong later in the year and push for selection. Its great to have two strong rucks pushing each other - they've helped each other get better no doubt.
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News could be worse and there is a bye in there but it will now give Billy a run at it
That said its pretty harsh on Hickey saying he has been in poor form when in the 3 games he has played he has averaged 12 possessions, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 30 hitouts and doing so against against arguably the 3 best ruckman in the league in Gawn, Martin and Grundy.
Still a big fan and hopefully this short break will freshen him up
That said its pretty harsh on Hickey saying he has been in poor form when in the 3 games he has played he has averaged 12 possessions, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 30 hitouts and doing so against against arguably the 3 best ruckman in the league in Gawn, Martin and Grundy.
Still a big fan and hopefully this short break will freshen him up
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Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
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Re: Tom Hickey injury?
Agree with your there unfortunately.Toy Saint wrote:Not sure Holmes is up to senior selection....
Probably his last year.
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Bummer. Well at least we have a capable replacement in Longer. He's not the footballer that Hickey is, but he has his strengths as demonstrated against Mumford.
A knee injury while being managed. Very unlucky for the big bloke.
A knee injury while being managed. Very unlucky for the big bloke.
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What about Lew-dog Pierce, how's he going?
I've heard a few people say he's going to be the best of the lot, but 5 years in he's played 1 game and seems to be our 5th choice ruckmen now?
I know big guys take a long time, but there's only so many years you can keep a player on your list without playing senior games… Ruckmen almost need to be drafted 2-3 years later than anyone else.
I thought Witts was a bit of a spud, but he looks to be just hitting his straps now at 24.
I've heard a few people say he's going to be the best of the lot, but 5 years in he's played 1 game and seems to be our 5th choice ruckmen now?
I know big guys take a long time, but there's only so many years you can keep a player on your list without playing senior games… Ruckmen almost need to be drafted 2-3 years later than anyone else.
I thought Witts was a bit of a spud, but he looks to be just hitting his straps now at 24.
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At the end of last year we offered Longer to GWS in a trade. We were keen to get it done, they were keen to get him. In the end he didn't want to go, so it fell through. Seems the club wasn't that keen on him, either.supersaints wrote:Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
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He has begun his therapy
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Lewie is contracted till the end of 2019. We have plenty of ruck depth and Lewie is a big man on the move!
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On current form, on the move to where?????Bernard Shakey wrote:Lewie is contracted till the end of 2019. We have plenty of ruck depth and Lewie is a big man on the move!
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He's not scared of the dark and will be playing senior AFL footy before you can turn the lights on.stonecold wrote:On current form, on the move to where?????Bernard Shakey wrote:Lewie is contracted till the end of 2019. We have plenty of ruck depth and Lewie is a big man on the move!
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So you know this as fact first hand..really ..... seems crazy we would then go out and offer him a contract extension, if we didn't want him.White Winmar wrote:At the end of last year we offered Longer to GWS in a trade. We were keen to get it done, they were keen to get him. In the end he didn't want to go, so it fell through. Seems the club wasn't that keen on him, either.supersaints wrote:Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
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So you know this as fact first hand..really ..... seems crazy we would then go out and offer him a contract extension, if we didn't want him.White Winmar wrote:At the end of last year we offered Longer to GWS in a trade. We were keen to get it done, they were keen to get him. In the end he didn't want to go, so it fell through. Seems the club wasn't that keen on him, either.supersaints wrote:Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
Seems Ammet Bain's is a liar then, cause he wants him, here's what he said
ST KILDA says it is committed to retaining ruckman Billy Longer despite the 23-year-old falling behind Tom Hickey in the pecking order.
The club's chief operating officer Ameet Bains told NAB AFL Trade Radio that Longer was needed to provide competition in the ruck.
"We're not looking to trade Billy, we signed him for two years earlier this year," Bains said.
"He was outstanding in 2015 … (but) had a pretty disjointed season this year and Tom Hickey had a breakout year and emerged like Billy did the previous year.
"We're in a really fortunate position where we've got ruckmen who are at similar parts of their career that are quite competitive against each other.
"That's driving the guys in a really productive way."
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So you know this as fact first hand..really ..... seems crazy we would then go out and offer him a contract extension, if we didn't want him.White Winmar wrote:At the end of last year we offered Longer to GWS in a trade. We were keen to get it done, they were keen to get him. In the end he didn't want to go, so it fell through. Seems the club wasn't that keen on him, either.supersaints wrote:Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
Seems Ammet Bain's is a liar then, cause he wants him, here's what he said
ST KILDA says it is committed to retaining ruckman Billy Longer despite the 23-year-old falling behind Tom Hickey in the pecking order.
The club's chief operating officer Ameet Bains told NAB AFL Trade Radio that Longer was needed to provide competition in the ruck.
"We're not looking to trade Billy, we signed him for two years earlier this year," Bains said.
"He was outstanding in 2015 … (but) had a pretty disjointed season this year and Tom Hickey had a breakout year and emerged like Billy did the previous year.
"We're in a really fortunate position where we've got ruckmen who are at similar parts of their career that are quite competitive against each other.
"That's driving the guys in a really productive way."
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They are also valuable commodities who could get us something more than a back up?
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He's moving well alreadysaintbrat wrote:He has begun his therapy
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If the market has interest, you're pretty foolish to ignore what might be in it for you as a club. It was a possible deal for Steele, or to get us back into the second round for the pick used on Freeman. Lonie and Sinclair also attracted interest. In the end, none of it eventuated and they settled for our second pick in this year's draft. I can assure you Billy was on thin ice in 2016. Came back to preseason in less than ideal shape, plus surgery and concussion issues, Hickey's great improvement along with Lewis Pierce coming on, he'd fallen way down the pecking order. Remember, even Holmes was preferred to him. He was last in the order and seen as dispensable. In view of all that, if someone offered you Jack Steele for Longer at the end of 2016, what would you have done? Player's fortunes can turn around very quickly. Just look at Hickey and Longer now between this year and last.supersaints wrote:So you know this as fact first hand..really ..... seems crazy we would then go out and offer him a contract extension, if we didn't want him.White Winmar wrote:At the end of last year we offered Longer to GWS in a trade. We were keen to get it done, they were keen to get him. In the end he didn't want to go, so it fell through. Seems the club wasn't that keen on him, either.supersaints wrote:Nows youls all know why I've been bangin on about Ruck depth for the last two years, stand up all yous who wanted Longer traded by now.. it's like bangin ya head on the wall but once more our ruck stocks are on par with other teams.. you need a second ruck who can play adequately to cover injury and form. Longer is ok the long stint will help advance him further... That being said I hope Hickey Recovers quickly ....
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Oh, okay, where did he play last week????? Think you might find Marshall is ahead of him at this point and he airnt ready yet!!!!!Bernard Shakey wrote:He's not scared of the dark and will be playing senior AFL footy before you can turn the lights on.stonecold wrote:On current form, on the move to where?????Bernard Shakey wrote:Lewie is contracted till the end of 2019. We have plenty of ruck depth and Lewie is a big man on the move!
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Just because they played Pierce in the Development league, it doesn't mean he's behind Holmes. It could be to give him a full game in the ruck rather than backup to Hickey in the Sandy seniors.
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Who said he was behind Holmes?????kosifantutti wrote:Just because they played Pierce in the Development league, it doesn't mean he's behind Holmes. It could be to give him a full game in the ruck rather than backup to Hickey in the Sandy seniors.
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