BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
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BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
POTYsaintsRrising wrote:BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
mmmmmBigMart wrote:Well, most bi blokes have thick legs
I knew what you meant. It was all a bit confusing with Hickey wearing 18. And Longer and Carlisle both wearing 2 for the Saints team.George27 wrote:Sorry - got that round the wrong way. Hickey for Sandy, and Longer for Saints - all day! I think. I need a rest !
Sounds like you're getting your excuses ready for Richo Bryon. Every team, including top four teams, can list young players like you've listed. Richo has stacks of solid game, solid tank, solid body players now - Weller, Armo, Dunstan, Savage, Robbo, Gilbo, STevens, Brown, Carlisle, Webster, Bruce, Rooey and on and on. He chose to bring in Stevens, Brown and Carlisle who are all AFL primed. He has admitted he has the talent now and there are no excuses.st.byron wrote:
Am also not 'expecting' finals this year. Optimism is boundless at this time of year and finals would be great but we may have another year of development required before we're there. We have a much much harder draw this year - 3rd hardest according to Champion Data. Am not necessarily looking for finals but for more development of our younger guys.
Regarding some who are being talked about as not being up to it or needing to step up, patience :
Acres - 21 y.o 26 games.
Lonie - 20 y.o 27 games
Gresham - 19 y.o 18 games
Billings 21 y.o 42 games - time for him to take another step but don't expect dominance
Membrey - awesome year last year but still only 30 games under his belt. Wont be surprised if he plateaus a bit.
Paddy - nearly 21. 17 games. Another development year for him. Don't expect him to rip games apart and dominate. More glimpses of elite potential and some solid games would be great.
Sinclair - just turned 22 y.o but still only 27 games.
D-Mac - being touted as the bolter for the year. Awesome if it happens, but still - 20 y.o 16 games.
Minch - is 23 y.o but still only 23 games.
Wright - 23 y.o 30 games.
With all of these guys, most of them 30 games or less, I want to see consistency rather than expecting them to dominate or become elite this year.
I want to especially see increased midfield depth and multiple options develop in most positions apart from key forwards and key defenders.
I'm watching a different player then. Agree to disagree. I'm not talking about any other part of his game. Just his use of the ball. He needs to sharpen it up imo.To the top wrote:Well, we disagree with Acres because I see him seeking options and then able to use both very good foot and hand skills - and where he has a sweeping, game breaking ability by hand.
He looks to set up the play, not just dispose.
I can see the argument that it's finals time. But I'm not getting carried away with pre-season optimism. And we have a much tougher draw this year.Bluthy wrote:Sounds like you're getting your excuses ready for Richo Bryon. Every team, including top four teams, can list young players like you've listed. Richo has stacks of solid game, solid tank, solid body players now - Weller, Armo, Dunstan, Savage, Robbo, Gilbo, STevens, Brown, Carlisle, Webster, Bruce, Rooey and on and on. He chose to bring in Stevens, Brown and Carlisle who are all AFL primed. He has admitted he has the talent now and there are no excuses.st.byron wrote:
Am also not 'expecting' finals this year. Optimism is boundless at this time of year and finals would be great but we may have another year of development required before we're there. We have a much much harder draw this year - 3rd hardest according to Champion Data. Am not necessarily looking for finals but for more development of our younger guys.
Regarding some who are being talked about as not being up to it or needing to step up, patience :
Acres - 21 y.o 26 games.
Lonie - 20 y.o 27 games
Gresham - 19 y.o 18 games
Billings 21 y.o 42 games - time for him to take another step but don't expect dominance
Membrey - awesome year last year but still only 30 games under his belt. Wont be surprised if he plateaus a bit.
Paddy - nearly 21. 17 games. Another development year for him. Don't expect him to rip games apart and dominate. More glimpses of elite potential and some solid games would be great.
Sinclair - just turned 22 y.o but still only 27 games.
D-Mac - being touted as the bolter for the year. Awesome if it happens, but still - 20 y.o 16 games.
Minch - is 23 y.o but still only 23 games.
Wright - 23 y.o 30 games.
With all of these guys, most of them 30 games or less, I want to see consistency rather than expecting them to dominate or become elite this year.
I want to especially see increased midfield depth and multiple options develop in most positions apart from key forwards and key defenders.
I would be more wiling to give Richo another year of outside top 8 if he had been playing more of the kids during his tenure but he hasn't done that as much as he could. This is the guy that took Schneider off the rookie list and played him all year remember. You can't now turn around and bemoan Sincs, Lonie & Wright not having enough games under their belt - can't have your cake and eat it too.
Now he's filled up the list with mature guys like Stevens and Brown and will probably play a backline of Demps, Carlisle, Geary, Joey, Brown & Gilbo. That is not an experimental, developing backline. That is a results orientated backline and he will be judged on wins and losses and top 8 or not playing that.
He's got some real talent on the list and young players come in much more ready for AFL than previously with the burgeoning professionalism of the junior system. We've seen a lot of very inexperienced players carve things up in only a few seasons. Yes there have been injury concerns with Paddy, Billings, Hugh and Blake setting them back a bit. But a lot of them for us will hit that 50 game mark this year (if they get played much) and should be able to handle the pace and physicality of the game letting their talent shine.
We need to see a solid system and some innovation from Richo as he now does have the cattle.Who cares about the draw - you beat who's in front of you, where ever, when ever you play. Anything else is excuses. Look at how the dogs travelled in the finals.
Finishing 9th or 10th again is a real danger as you are in no mans land - just talk to Richmond. You don't get finals experience and you don't get the really high picks. We have launched our finals assault and can't afford to stall halfway again. Carlisele's clock (that we invested heavily in) is ticking. He's missed a whole year of footy and match conditioning and is looking pretty rusty and underdone. We need to take advantage of him asap.
You bring in older guys like Brown and STevens taking up a valuable spot on your list that could have been spent on young guys, you better reap the rewards straight away.
Wally, I reckon it's just impatience. Re-building takes time and naturally people want success now, especially with the whiff of being on the rise in the nostrils.wally wrote:There seems to be undertones that the coach could be under the pump/question...surely not.
We're building a list and the draw does matter.
Older players apposed to giving young ones more go will always be a fine line.
Tom Hickey is bi? First AFL player to come out?saintsRrising wrote:BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
I think he means bipedal.White Winmar wrote:Tom Hickey is bi? First AFL player to come out?saintsRrising wrote:BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
Not convinced he has a functioning right foot!minneapolis wrote:I think he means bipedal.White Winmar wrote:Tom Hickey is bi? First AFL player to come out?saintsRrising wrote:BigMart wrote:
Tom Hickey has the skinniest legs I've seen on a bi bloke ever,
dsav wrote:Late contribution sorry, but here are the photos I took from the Intraclub...
http://www.davesavell.com/p1025537572
Cheers,
Dave.
Its a big ask but I liken him (Acres) to Lenny who took sometime to get his kicking and game right but then took off.8856brother wrote:Was disappointed with Acres. Hardly noticed him in the first half. One thing that has been consistent with Blake since he arrived at the club is his disposal. It's far too sloppy and was again on Thursday. He's going to excite, as well as frustrate the hell out of us at times if he doesn't clean this side of his game up. Wanted to see improvement in this area and didn't. Hopefully he can sort it out.
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