Hearing reports that AFL forgot about this rule, free kick hawthorn. At least the pick they kept (from GWS) will probably be worse than their own that they traded away.ace wrote:How did Hawthorn get away with giving their 2017 second rounder to Gold Coast instead of that from GWS via Carlton.
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"If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selections from the same draft. However if a club retains its future first-round selection, it can trade multiple future selections from other rounds."
Is it like playing a match, there are rules but they are not enforced.
There are guidelines to umpires that change from week to week and are enforced so play to the guidelines.
So at the 2017 trade period GWS (premiers) goes to Brisbane (wooden spooners) and says.Rosco wrote:we will never get an answer other than it was approved by the AFL
Hey lets swap 2018 first round draft picks, we will give players X , Y, & Z.
Brisbane then drops 17 places in the first round for 2018 but probably 22 places during the progress of the draft.
Brisbane then goes and trades their second third and fourth round picks from 2018.
They can do this because they still have GWS 2018 1st rounder.
That's OK.
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The rule is in relation to the original picks to be issued to any club. Clubs can trade any extra picks that they get in without restriction.Rosco wrote:Hearing reports that AFL forgot about this rule, free kick hawthorn. At least the pick they kept (from GWS) will probably be worse than their own that they traded away.ace wrote:How did Hawthorn get away with giving their 2017 second rounder to Gold Coast instead of that from GWS via Carlton.
From AFL Indicative Draft
"If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selections from the same draft. However if a club retains its future first-round selection, it can trade multiple future selections from other rounds."
Is it like playing a match, there are rules but they are not enforced.
There are guidelines to umpires that change from week to week and are enforced so play to the guidelines.
So at the 2017 trade period GWS (premiers) goes to Brisbane (wooden spooners) and says.Rosco wrote:we will never get an answer other than it was approved by the AFL
Hey lets swap 2018 first round draft picks, we will give players X , Y, & Z.
Brisbane then drops 17 places in the first round for 2018 but probably 22 places during the progress of the draft.
Brisbane then goes and trades their second third and fourth round picks from 2018.
They can do this because they still have GWS 2018 1st rounder.
That's OK.
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Someone is definitely going to pick up the speccie machine Liam Ryan
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Exactly. That they traded their own 2nd rounder is my point.saintsRrising wrote:The rule is in relation to the original picks to be issued to any club. Clubs can trade any extra picks that they get in without restriction.Rosco wrote:Hearing reports that AFL forgot about this rule, free kick hawthorn. At least the pick they kept (from GWS) will probably be worse than their own that they traded away.ace wrote:How did Hawthorn get away with giving their 2017 second rounder to Gold Coast instead of that from GWS via Carlton.
From AFL Indicative Draft
"If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selections from the same draft. However if a club retains its future first-round selection, it can trade multiple future selections from other rounds."
Is it like playing a match, there are rules but they are not enforced.
There are guidelines to umpires that change from week to week and are enforced so play to the guidelines.
So at the 2017 trade period GWS (premiers) goes to Brisbane (wooden spooners) and says.Rosco wrote:we will never get an answer other than it was approved by the AFL
Hey lets swap 2018 first round draft picks, we will give players X , Y, & Z.
Brisbane then drops 17 places in the first round for 2018 but probably 22 places during the progress of the draft.
Brisbane then goes and trades their second third and fourth round picks from 2018.
They can do this because they still have GWS 2018 1st rounder.
That's OK.
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There's another Goddard - Jeremy. Any relation?Con Gorozidis wrote:Someone is definitely going to pick up the speccie machine Liam Ryan
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Ok Jaxons good sir,
Any chance you can provide us a few names of interest ?![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Any chance you can provide us a few names of interest ?
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the next eddie betts - you woudl have to drool over that one - a small that plays tall is lacking in our sideCon Gorozidis wrote:Someone is definitely going to pick up the speccie machine Liam Ryan
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Happy to receive a PMjaxons wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Ok Jaxons good sir,
Give us a few names of interest
Might give you something on Friday who knows who is watching!
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Is the list finalised and ready to go?jaxons wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Ok Jaxons good sir,
Give us a few names of interest
Might give you something on Friday who knows who is watching!
There must be a couple that have a chance of making it to 23 who we really like ...?
anyway... fingers crossed
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Ok. Getting close now.
Out of interest I wonder if there have been any instances of hacking leaking or subterfuge by clubs before the draft.
Out of interest I wonder if there have been any instances of hacking leaking or subterfuge by clubs before the draft.
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True St Kilda patriot that I am I would rather not know if there is even the slightest risk it would stuff things up.
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Would have to be all the usually dirty suspects: Essendon, Carlton, Filth etc....Con Gorozidis wrote:Ok. Getting close now.
Out of interest I wonder if there have been any instances of hacking leaking or subterfuge by clubs before the draft.
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Hope we don't have the immediate post draft negativity like we did last year, when some posters complained about Gresham being a poor choice because he was only 177cm tall. Funny how two of the top four ranked players this year are 177cm and 178cm tall.
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If you're good enough, you're big enough!cwrcyn wrote:Hope we don't have the immediate post draft negativity like we did last year, when some posters complained about Gresham being a poor choice because he was only 177cm tall. Funny how two of the top four ranked players this year are 177cm and 178cm tall.
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First bit I will give is let's hope North don't take Florent with their first pick.
It is a long shot but he may sneak through if Kangas take a slider from the top 10.
It is a long shot but he may sneak through if Kangas take a slider from the top 10.
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Callum Twomey has Florent going at 13 so I think our chances are slim on that one. Would be a good get though.
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afl.com.overyou8bloggs wrote:Does anyone know if there any coverage accessible other than Fox Footy for this year's National Draft?
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2016 NAB AFL Draft Friday 25 November Fox Footy 6:30pm AEDT 3AW SEN8bloggs wrote:Does anyone know if there any coverage accessible other than Fox Footy for this year's National Draft?
There isn't much visually with the draft so the radio is just as good really.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Callum Twomey has Florent going at 13 so I think our chances are slim on that one. Would be a good get though.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-23/c ... ntom-draft
Phantom drafts don't always turn out the same way as the real thing.
However I agree it's a big if he gets past Nth.
If he does though he could get very close to us.
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Understood. It is something I have been thinking about doing some statistical analysis on actually.jaxons wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Callum Twomey has Florent going at 13 so I think our chances are slim on that one. Would be a good get though.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-23/c ... ntom-draft
Phantom drafts don't always turn out the same way as the real thing.
However I agree it's a big if he gets past Nth.
If he does though he could get very close to us.
Looking back over the past few years - Callum Twomey has been very close in his top 15-20 phantom's to actual draft outcomes.
After pick 15 or so he tends to be a bit off though as do most of them.
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