BigMart wrote:Pelchen was never a recruiter at Hawthorn
Gary Buckanara
Or at StK
Tony Elshaugh
Why give him credit for talent identified?
BigMart you are the only one labelling him as a recruiter at StKilda. Again that was not his role so why keep raising it?
What many including me have credit him for was turning our overall drafting performanace around and for adopting a clear strategy to build a list/team rather than just individuals.
BigMart wrote:
He was responsible for the notion of trading out names for high pick or trading picks for multiple layers of multiple picks.
The team he led was responsible for many things. Overall it was to bring a lot of talent through to rebuild the list fulling knowing that a lot of it would not work, but by doing it you would end up with a good team.
Roberton, Membrey were both Free. Weller almost free as was a rookie. Bruce very cheap etc...
The Ben deal is looking very positive for us.
Swapping pick 12 and 13 effectively has gained Hickey and Wright and maybe Lee. The others had fallen by the wayside. If you look at the picks taken thereabouts like Jaksch would the club actually faired any better by keeping the picks?
so again overall we are in front if you actually look logically at what was given away for what was gained.
BigMart wrote:
As it stands
We have Paddy McCartin & Dan McKenzie and not Kristian Jaksh & Jono o Rourke and picks 4&12
Again going to extremes witha trade that was never on.
BigMart wrote:
Imagine selling the rights to McCartin or Petracca
His theory of quantity of picks over quality is dangerous, if the top pick becomes a Riewoldt, Hodge, Cooney etc
Would you trade the rights to picks 1-5 for 2 picks 6-18
Exactly how many very high picks were traded away under Pelchen at St Kilda? Is the answer not zero? So again "sky is falling" alarmist nonsense that did not actually take place. Post Pelchen the club following his philophosy said that they would trade pick 1 if the deal was right.
The closest he got to that was the McEvoy trade after he had played enough games to show his pros and cons, and Ben was a pick 8 and not a 1-5. The deal is looking very good for StKilda.
Yes Pelchen swapped picks in the teens. It was explained at the time that when all of our recruiters rated
the potential draft talent available in that yearthey did not find a lot of difference in the likely players available at our pick, and the picks a bit later. So to them it made sense to get 2 and 3 even bites at the cherry as that doubled the chance of at least one player making it.
Drafting and trading is not a set formal that is used the same each year. It is affected by what players are available etc.
PS: The Saints recruiting team did a Pelchen and in effect traded for Carlisle and Gresham for Francis and Morgan. Again this looks to a bea good deal for te Saints.
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