So how do we beat the Giants?
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So how do we beat the Giants?
They pantsed, absolutely pantsed the Power on the weekend.
So how do we beat this AFL designed juggernaut?
Forward line is somewhat.... alarming.
So how do we beat this AFL designed juggernaut?
Forward line is somewhat.... alarming.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Having watched parts of the Port v GWS game, I couldn't believe the total lack of pressure PA put on the GWS players. There was practically no pressure on the ball carrier, little pressure in marking duels and the GWS didn't even need to run a full pace to link up down the field. If we just run hard, pressure the opposition AND STOP GIFTING GOALS to the opposition with turnovers, then we will have a very good chance of winning.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
If we play like we did against the Hawks we are a chance.
If we play like we did against the Dogs we are no chance.
If we play like we did against the Dogs we are no chance.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
The old "Its won or lost in the middle". Both sides have undersized defences. Ours is old, theirs is inexperienced. Also they are missing a few first choice defenders but so are we. Cameron coming back doesn't help but from memory he usually takes a few games to get going. Mummy is the biggest issue for mine. Hickey has been fantastic but Mummy is a bully and could well rag doll Hickey. Longer may be called on if the coaches are worried but if not, expect a lot of 3rd man up.I think we have more firepower in the middle so if we get first use think we have a great chance.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
You can say that again! The AFL's newest monster are starting to flex a muscle. But boy Port were absolute garbage.
The good news is we're at home. Just need to bring the same intensity from the previous two weeks and we're in with a real chance.
The good news is we're at home. Just need to bring the same intensity from the previous two weeks and we're in with a real chance.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Shame it's not at the G. Suits our game plan better than Jihad.Sainternist wrote:You can say that again! The AFL's newest monster are starting to flex a muscle. But boy Port were absolute garbage.
The good news is we're at home. Just need to bring the same intensity from the previous two weeks and we're in with a real chance.
I hope we can be mentally "up" for a third week in a row. A big ask.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Yes, I'm beginning to think we're more suited to playing the MCG. Would love us to play our home games there instead of Jihad. But alas, it looks as though we're stuck in the AFL's homeless shelter for struggling Melbourne-based clubs for (at least) the foreseeable future.saintspremiers wrote:Shame it's not at the G. Suits our game plan better than Jihad.Sainternist wrote:You can say that again! The AFL's newest monster are starting to flex a muscle. But boy Port were absolute garbage.
The good news is we're at home. Just need to bring the same intensity from the previous two weeks and we're in with a real chance.
I hope we can be mentally "up" for a third week in a row. A big ask.
Absolutely huge ask in winning this match on the weekend. If we're going to give them a real contest, it could be a very bruising affair.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
stkfc1 wrote:The old "Its won or lost in the middle". Both sides have undersized defences. Ours is old, theirs is inexperienced. Also they are missing a few first choice defenders but so are we. Cameron coming back doesn't help but from memory he usually takes a few games to get going. Mummy is the biggest issue for mine. Hickey has been fantastic but Mummy is a bully and could well rag doll Hickey. Longer may be called on if the coaches are worried but if not, expect a lot of 3rd man up.I think we have more firepower in the middle so if we get first use think we have a great chance.
Are you kidding about the midfields?
GWS - Greene (career best form), Coniglio, Shiel, Whitfield, Kelly, Ward (simply a gun), Griffen, Palmer and Scully - that is a sensational group
Their backline
Shaw (I watched him closely at the Swans GWS game and his reading of the play is brilliant)
Davis (very underrated)
Nathan Wilson (going to be a very good player)
but the player no one has mentioned who we literally have nobody to play on is Lobb (6ft 9) , athletic , can mark
I have no doubt GWS can play finals this year
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Would probably need to look back to our first game against them last year...near identical line-ups, we got very close with Cameron on fire and Roo (under difficult circumstances) injured. They won't find the going as easy as they did against Port at home. I believe we can match their midfield on our own turf, but have to improve on the (sometimes umpire assisted) gift giving turn-overs against the Hawks from which they scored nearly 50 points on the weekend!
Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
They are up and down like a mole's undies
Hopefully they are down... If they get their tails up, look out... If you put them under pressure... They are vulnerable
In a shoot out, they will flog us ... If we grind them, they will crack
Hopefully they are down... If they get their tails up, look out... If you put them under pressure... They are vulnerable
In a shoot out, they will flog us ... If we grind them, they will crack
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
How did we lose to Port, our last quarters are a bit of an issue.
Hopefully we can play 4 competitive quarters on Sunday and at least we'll have a chance.
Hopefully we can play 4 competitive quarters on Sunday and at least we'll have a chance.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
1) Harder at the ball
2) Move the ball quickly from the backline
3) Pressure, pressure, pressure (especially the likes of Shiel and Ward)
4) Take our chances
2) Move the ball quickly from the backline
3) Pressure, pressure, pressure (especially the likes of Shiel and Ward)
4) Take our chances
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
They are a hardened side these days so it wont be easy. We will need to be on our game.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Wayne42 wrote:How did we lose to Port, our last quarters are a bit of an issue.
Hopefully we can play 4 competitive quarters on Sunday and at least we'll have a chance.
not enoght practice games. missed out on one. i think it hurt alot.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Bit harsh - I also read afl.com's breakdown but noted that Sam Mitchell is the 'turnover king' for the Hawks.elizabethr wrote:Keep it away from Jack (the turnover king)Steven.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
When you're in the engine room the chances of turning it over in the heat are higher...hence a lot of gun midfielders appear 'turnover kings'. Similarly, points scored from turnovers villains tend to be defenders. Can read much into stats, except that we are ranked 17th as a club, so there's an obvious area for improvement. I believe the Hawks scored all but one of their goals from turnovers in the first quarter on Saturday, conversely we scored one point.freely wrote:Bit harsh - I also read afl.com's breakdown but noted that Sam Mitchell is the 'turnover king' for the Hawks.elizabethr wrote:Keep it away from Jack (the turnover king)Steven.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
He gets it more than just about anyone else and the more you do the more likely you are to balls something up. I'll put it another way. The only players who don't make mistakes are the ones that don't do anythingelizabethr wrote:Keep it away from Jack (the turnover king)Steven.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
The first three are descriptive (of the Giants)True Blue Sainter wrote:1) Harder at the ball
2) Move the ball quickly from the backline
3) Pressure, pressure, pressure (especially the likes of Shiel and Ward)
4) Take our chances
The last prescriptive of our only chance.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
You know it wasn't funny last week and it still isn't this week.... remotelyThe Fireman wrote:Semi Auto
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
Cameron is the main worry. Really need carlisle or goddard for him but alas ...
We must
- doninate clearances
- not turn it over.
- fill the hole to help fish on cameron
- keep the pressure up
Do all that and we will win comfortably.
The football we play works in everyone. We pressure, we switch, and we go direct to paddy bruce or rooey. What more do we need to do?? Well stop turnovers basically.
We must
- doninate clearances
- not turn it over.
- fill the hole to help fish on cameron
- keep the pressure up
Do all that and we will win comfortably.
The football we play works in everyone. We pressure, we switch, and we go direct to paddy bruce or rooey. What more do we need to do?? Well stop turnovers basically.
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Re: So how do we beat the Giants?
With peppermint crisp through it.elizabethr wrote:SemifredoThe Fireman wrote:Semi Auto
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