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Re: Jake Carlisle
Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Re: Jake Carlisle
Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Sinclair will be one of those unless we delist a couple more and get an even later pick which is the way to go IMO.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
ripplug66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Sinclair will be one of those unless we delist a couple more and get an even later pick which is the way to go IMO.
Most likely will use 68 to upgrade Sinclair
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Re: Jake Carlisle
You need to have three live picks in the draft, so we have to delist at least two more players.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Later than that, much later I suspect.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:ripplug66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Sinclair will be one of those unless we delist a couple more and get an even later pick which is the way to go IMO.
Most likely will use 68 to upgrade Sinclair
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Ok - well we may not need 63 for Rice.saynta wrote:You need to have three live picks in the draft, so we have to delist at least two more players.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Does Sinclair count as a 'live' pick?
Re: Jake Carlisle
Con Gorozidis wrote:Ok - well we may not need 63 for Rice.saynta wrote:You need to have three live picks in the draft, so we have to delist at least two more players.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Does Sinclair count as a 'live' pick?
Yes and has always and so does Rice. I have no idea how many have been delisted but if we use one pick we need 5 delisted. Obviously if we use 2 picks we need 6 delisted.
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Well, it didn't in the past. Don't know if they changed the rules last year.I remember them fiddling around the edges.Con Gorozidis wrote:Ok - well we may not need 63 for Rice.saynta wrote:You need to have three live picks in the draft, so we have to delist at least two more players.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Does Sinclair count as a 'live' pick?
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Re: Jake Carlisle
yes I was reluctant to add this Gold comment but guilty dancing with my toddlers to Would I Lie To You.Life Long Saint wrote:Gold FM...Long time breaker of big footy storiesmillarsaint wrote:104.3 just announced deal has been done three way involves Sydney.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
where is Freeman in all this?Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Freeman deal complete. Basically next year's 2nd rounder.desertsaint wrote:where is Freeman in all this?Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Deal is Calrlisle done, Saints gave up 5 & 24.
Saints got back 14 and 44 and Carlisle.
So that is about 1079 points. So Carlise cost the Saints about pick 15. Which is what most reasonable people on both sides thought.
ie Not worth Pick 5, but worth more than Pick 24.
The deal as worked out also means that Saints have the likely points for Rice as a FS without risking our first pick being downgraded in 2016 which would have happened if we were short on too many points.
Saints got back 14 and 44 and Carlisle.
So that is about 1079 points. So Carlise cost the Saints about pick 15. Which is what most reasonable people on both sides thought.
ie Not worth Pick 5, but worth more than Pick 24.
The deal as worked out also means that Saints have the likely points for Rice as a FS without risking our first pick being downgraded in 2016 which would have happened if we were short on too many points.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Jakey boy had better work hard and be worth it..........
and we haven't given up a players
and we haven't given up a players
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Re: Jake Carlisle
So what did the swans get out of the deal for craig Bird?saintsRrising wrote:Deal is Calrlisle done, Saints gave up 5 & 24.
Saints got back 14 and 44 and Carlisle.
So that is about 1079 points. So Carlise cost the Saints about pick 15. Which is what most reasonable people on both sides thought.
ie Not worth Pick 5, but worth more than Pick 24.
The deal as worked out also means that Saints have the likely points for Rice as a FS without risking our first pick being downgraded in 2016 which would have happened if we were short on too many points.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
They exchanged pick 14 for 5 -a good deal for them!saynta wrote:So what did the swans get out of the deal for craig Bird?saintsRrising wrote:Deal is Calrlisle done, Saints gave up 5 & 24.
Saints got back 14 and 44 and Carlisle.
So that is about 1079 points. So Carlise cost the Saints about pick 15. Which is what most reasonable people on both sides thought.
ie Not worth Pick 5, but worth more than Pick 24.
The deal as worked out also means that Saints have the likely points for Rice as a FS without risking our first pick being downgraded in 2016 which would have happened if we were short on too many points.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
So the swans have pick 5?longtimesaint wrote:They exchanged pick 14 for 5 -a good deal for them!saynta wrote:So what did the swans get out of the deal for craig Bird?saintsRrising wrote:Deal is Calrlisle done, Saints gave up 5 & 24.
Saints got back 14 and 44 and Carlisle.
So that is about 1079 points. So Carlise cost the Saints about pick 15. Which is what most reasonable people on both sides thought.
ie Not worth Pick 5, but worth more than Pick 24.
The deal as worked out also means that Saints have the likely points for Rice as a FS without risking our first pick being downgraded in 2016 which would have happened if we were short on too many points.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
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Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
No because we also get pick 14 and 44
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No because we have pick 14 coming back which is a lot better than keeping 24.Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
Also we get 44 which can be used for Rice or Sinclair.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
Ah, my bad. Gotcha. Very good.uptheboys wrote:Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
No because we also get pick 14 and 44
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You would use your last draft pick on sinclair which currently is in the early hundredslongtimesaint wrote:No because we have pick 14 coming back which is a lot better than keeping 24.Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
Also we get 44 which can be used for Rice or Sinclair.
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Yeah - surely we use a very late pick on Sinclair?saynta wrote:You would use your last draft pick on sinclair which currently is in the early hundredslongtimesaint wrote:No because we have pick 14 coming back which is a lot better than keeping 24.Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
Also we get 44 which can be used for Rice or Sinclair.
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It looks like we will pass on quite a few picks.Con Gorozidis wrote:Yeah - surely we use a very late pick on Sinclair?saynta wrote:You would use your last draft pick on sinclair which currently is in the early hundredslongtimesaint wrote:No because we have pick 14 coming back which is a lot better than keeping 24.Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
Also we get 44 which can be used for Rice or Sinclair.
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Re: Jake Carlisle
yep.Con Gorozidis wrote:Yeah - surely we use a very late pick on Sinclair?saynta wrote:You would use your last draft pick on sinclair which currently is in the early hundredslongtimesaint wrote:No because we have pick 14 coming back which is a lot better than keeping 24.Sainternist wrote:So we've given up picks 5 and 24 in order to land Carlisle? Wouldn't we have been better off just doing a straight swap with pick 5 for Carlisle?
Also we get 44 which can be used for Rice or Sinclair.
As it stood this morning the Saints still had picks 5, 24, 45, 68, 81, 99 and 117 at next month’s National Draft.
Now we have picks 14, 44, 45 ,68, 81, 99 and 117.
Not hard to find out.