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Tom Lynch and Jamie Cripps in particular have seemed to thrive and produce thir best footy with new clubs. Any reason we couldn't get the same level out of them.
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
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Chuck in Hutchings as well.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Tom Lynch and Jamie Cripps in particular have seemed to thrive and produce thir best footy with new clubs. Any reason we couldn't get the same level out of them.
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
Mostly just mature bodies imo. Most people play their best footy between 23-28. Not all, but most.
Some kids have mature bodies younger (e.g Darling looked 25 when he was 19) but they are exceptions.
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It's not all one way. Bruce, Roberton and a few others have looked better as Saints.
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I agree with this. I can never understand why we expect players to be stars by age 21. Spencer White is an example where I think it may be a bit early to tell. But I guess the club knows something.Con Gorozidis wrote:Chuck in Hutchings as well.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Tom Lynch and Jamie Cripps in particular have seemed to thrive and produce thir best footy with new clubs. Any reason we couldn't get the same level out of them.
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
Mostly just mature bodies imo. Most people play their best footy between 23-28. Not all, but most.
Some kids have mature bodies younger (e.g Darling looked 25 when he was 19) but they are exceptions.
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Beat me to it.kosifantutti wrote:It's not all one way. Bruce, Roberton and a few others have looked better as Saints.
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Toy Saint wrote:Why can't I remember Hutchings?
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You don't go to any Sandy games!Toy Saint wrote:Why can't I remember Hutchings?
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In the case of Tom Lynch... Well they played him. In the position he was suited to. And then when he played well, they played him again.
It was an interesting approach compared to the Lyon strategy.
With Hutchins, it was interesting. When they drafted him, they saw "potential". Then WC did something called "persevering". It means that if he wasn't perfect right away, they still tried to develop him instead of giving up right away.
With Cripps, i don't quite recall but i think he chose to leave.
It was an interesting approach compared to the Lyon strategy.
With Hutchins, it was interesting. When they drafted him, they saw "potential". Then WC did something called "persevering". It means that if he wasn't perfect right away, they still tried to develop him instead of giving up right away.
With Cripps, i don't quite recall but i think he chose to leave.
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The club does know plenty about him and Spencer has his problems, but most of them are psychological, from what my sources tell me. If he was able to get his head right, he has the natural footballing ability and athleticism to be a very good AFL player. He has the potential to be a major embarrassment to our club, if some other club has the courage to pick him up and persevere with him. Personally, I'd like to see the club redraft him with our last pick or rookie him, if he is available.saint-stu wrote:I agree with this. I can never understand why we expect players to be stars by age 21. Spencer White is an example where I think it may be a bit early to tell. But I guess the club knows something.Con Gorozidis wrote:Chuck in Hutchings as well.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Tom Lynch and Jamie Cripps in particular have seemed to thrive and produce thir best footy with new clubs. Any reason we couldn't get the same level out of them.
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
Mostly just mature bodies imo. Most people play their best footy between 23-28. Not all, but most.
Some kids have mature bodies younger (e.g Darling looked 25 when he was 19) but they are exceptions.
Being delisted may just be the jolt he needs to make him realise the opportunity he has let slip. A wake up call that may resurrect his career. He isn't the first, and won't be the last man to not make the grade because of attitude, lack of work ethic or desire to do all that's required at the top level. We all know, or played with guys who had the raw ability to make it. The demands of the modern game prove to be too much for many. Never has the saying, "90 % of sport is played above the neck", been more relevant.
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Correct.skeptic wrote:In the case of Tom Lynch... Well they played him. In the position he was suited to. And then when he played well, they played him again.
It was an interesting approach compared to the Lyon strategy.
With Hutchins, it was interesting. When they drafted him, they saw "potential". Then WC did something called "persevering". It means that if he wasn't perfect right away, they still tried to develop him instead of giving up right away.
With Cripps, i don't quite recall but i think he chose to leave.
Lynch wanted to leave as well. At least we have Membrey who plays a similar role. At this stage, Lynch is in front but Membrey has some potential.
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I have heard similar about Spence but he's only 21 and a tall. Seems premature to be making a call. Rookie pick might be worthwhile if he's not already gone.White Winmar wrote:The club does know plenty about him and Spencer has his problems, but most of them are psychological, from what my sources tell me. If he was able to get his head right, he has the natural footballing ability and athleticism to be a very good AFL player. He has the potential to be a major embarrassment to our club, if some other club has the courage to pick him up and persevere with him. Personally, I'd like to see the club redraft him with our last pick or rookie him, if he is available.saint-stu wrote:I agree with this. I can never understand why we expect players to be stars by age 21. Spencer White is an example where I think it may be a bit early to tell. But I guess the club knows something.Con Gorozidis wrote:Chuck in Hutchings as well.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Tom Lynch and Jamie Cripps in particular have seemed to thrive and produce thir best footy with new clubs. Any reason we couldn't get the same level out of them.
Is it just a case of being in a stronger team? Just happened to mature as players?
Mostly just mature bodies imo. Most people play their best footy between 23-28. Not all, but most.
Some kids have mature bodies younger (e.g Darling looked 25 when he was 19) but they are exceptions.
Being delisted may just be the jolt he needs to make him realise the opportunity he has let slip. A wake up call that may resurrect his career. He isn't the first, and won't be the last man to not make the grade because of attitude, lack of work ethic or desire to do all that's required at the top level. We all know, or played with guys who had the raw ability to make it. The demands of the modern game prove to be too much for many. Never has the saying, "90 % of sport is played above the neck", been more relevant.
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Cripps ran home to mummy.skeptic wrote:In the case of Tom Lynch... Well they played him. In the position he was suited to. And then when he played well, they played him again.
It was an interesting approach compared to the Lyon strategy.
With Hutchins, it was interesting. When they drafted him, they saw "potential". Then WC did something called "persevering". It means that if he wasn't perfect right away, they still tried to develop him instead of giving up right away.
With Cripps, i don't quite recall but i think he chose to leave.
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