How's Newnesy Going?
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How's Newnesy Going?
Let me start this by saying I really like Jack Newnes, he has good endeavour and workrate. Would love to see him play 200 games.
But how's he actually going? This was supposed to be his breakout year but it hasn't really happened.
What does he actually do well? Averaging 20 touches for the second year in a row but has never had 30 in a game. Currently ranked 6th in the team for disposals, 9th for tackles, 9th for clearances, 11th for contested possessions, 6th for uncontested possessions, 6th for inside 50s, 10th for disposal effectiveness, 4th for goal assists. That suggests he's about the 6th best mid in a side screaming out for good mids.
He's 22.5 and has played about 67 games. Time still on his side but what sort of player is he actually going to become? Has he got more improvement in him? Or is what we see now basically what we should expect from Newnesy?
But how's he actually going? This was supposed to be his breakout year but it hasn't really happened.
What does he actually do well? Averaging 20 touches for the second year in a row but has never had 30 in a game. Currently ranked 6th in the team for disposals, 9th for tackles, 9th for clearances, 11th for contested possessions, 6th for uncontested possessions, 6th for inside 50s, 10th for disposal effectiveness, 4th for goal assists. That suggests he's about the 6th best mid in a side screaming out for good mids.
He's 22.5 and has played about 67 games. Time still on his side but what sort of player is he actually going to become? Has he got more improvement in him? Or is what we see now basically what we should expect from Newnesy?
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Think the question is do we think he'll ever be an A grader?
I don't know the answer - it's 50/50 IMO
Been a solid contributor this year without starring.
That's why I think he could be traded. We could cover losing him but he has value in the trade market as part of getting a genuine star in the door.
Don't want to lose him and, same as the OP, would love to see him play 200 for us.
I don't know the answer - it's 50/50 IMO
Been a solid contributor this year without starring.
That's why I think he could be traded. We could cover losing him but he has value in the trade market as part of getting a genuine star in the door.
Don't want to lose him and, same as the OP, would love to see him play 200 for us.
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I think he is already pretty good. Will never be an out and out star. Not quite as tall or as good in the air as Corey Enright - but that kind of player.
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Solid b-c grader
Every side needs them but the side with the better quality b-Cs usually do better
67 games is getting up there - next year is the year he needs to really break out if he's ever going to
Every side needs them but the side with the better quality b-Cs usually do better
67 games is getting up there - next year is the year he needs to really break out if he's ever going to
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He's going well. 67 games is a few but he has played most of those in a very ordinary side.
I expect by the time he gets to 150 games he will be a strong b-a grade player. I think he will play his best footy rotating betweenies the backline and centre. At the moment I feel he is spending too much time in the midfield that we are not making the most of his ball use.
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I expect by the time he gets to 150 games he will be a strong b-a grade player. I think he will play his best footy rotating betweenies the backline and centre. At the moment I feel he is spending too much time in the midfield that we are not making the most of his ball use.
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Impressed me today, some good long penetrating kicks. He was very good last week too, going back and kicking that goal late screamed of leadership and him taking responsibility which I loved.
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Yep. I see him being consistently in the top 5-7 in the B&F. Will get a few top 3 finishes when he is 25-28. That makes him a very very good player.saintbob wrote:I reckon he'll be in the top 3 or 4 in our B&F, so I say he's tracking very nicely.
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This.maverick wrote:I actually reckon he's had a VG year, he is between A&B for me.
Really improved his decision making.
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Re: How's Newnesy Going?
Imagine if we had him in 09 or 10 as opposed to some on the list we had. Rossy would have jumped at him. Great disposal and able to stick to a drilled plan. He's not the mecurial Riewoldt or Bruce but would be an integral part of a premiership team imo.
Quality disposal is key attribute these days. Collingwood's game against Geelong showed that to me. Their disposal was incredible and something we need to lift to.
So I'm happy with what I see in Jack.
Quality disposal is key attribute these days. Collingwood's game against Geelong showed that to me. Their disposal was incredible and something we need to lift to.
So I'm happy with what I see in Jack.
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He is one of our best and i think he has taken his game up a level this year. Tackles with intensity and chases hard. Add all the 1% to those 20+ touches and you have a very good player. OP must be blind
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Our best player from 3 drafts and while he will be a solid long term player for us that says a lot about how those drafts ended up being major busts.
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Quite possibly he is the absolute least of our worries. Young, tough, reliable and makes good decisions.
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That was Murdoch.uptheboys wrote:Impressed me today, some good long penetrating kicks. He was very good last week too, going back and kicking that goal late screamed of leadership and him taking responsibility which I loved.
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Re: How's Newnesy Going?
I didn't see him today but this year he's been pretty solid. He doesn't have a single trait that is stand out but is a great all rounder. Great mark, good kick, clean hands. I would say he's improved his out put this year. I think he's roughly the same age as Ross who is also not there yet so he has time. He is not a true mid more playing off a back wing or flank. His first month was pretty ordinary but overall he's been pretty solid. There is a reason he has played just about every match since he arrived.bergholt wrote:Let me start this by saying I really like Jack Newnes, he has good endeavour and workrate. Would love to see him play 200 games.
But how's he actually going? This was supposed to be his breakout year but it hasn't really happened.
What does he actually do well? Averaging 20 touches for the second year in a row but has never had 30 in a game. Currently ranked 6th in the team for disposals, 9th for tackles, 9th for clearances, 11th for contested possessions, 6th for uncontested possessions, 6th for inside 50s, 10th for disposal effectiveness, 4th for goal assists. That suggests he's about the 6th best mid in a side screaming out for good mids.
He's 22.5 and has played about 67 games. Time still on his side but what sort of player is he actually going to become? Has he got more improvement in him? Or is what we see now basically what we should expect from Newnesy?
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Tough as nails....best tackler in the team. He will be a 200 gamer for sure. With any young players you expect improvement, his numbers this year have been very very good in a team that's won 6 games. I expect them to be even better next year.
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Had a serviceable year but the one thing about his game that annoys me is that he usually looks to pass it backwards as his first option.
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I think he has improved a fair bit this year. Not a 'break out' year, but has looked good. He generally has A-grade disposal, and agility. And i think in the last few weeks, month his outside game has improved. He is an absolute competitor, so good one on one, and i think with continued progress on the outside will be a very very good player for us. I rate him.
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Re: How's Newnesy Going?
stjay wrote:Think the question is do we think he'll ever be an A grader?
I don't know the answer - it's 50/50 IMO
Been a solid contributor this year without starring.
That's why I think he could be traded. We could cover losing him but he has value in the trade market as part of getting a genuine star in the door.
Don't want to lose him and, same as the OP, would love to see him play 200 for us.
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Re: How's Newnesy Going?
howlinwolf wrote:Imagine if we had him in 09 or 10 as opposed to some on the list we had. Rossy would have jumped at him. Great disposal and able to stick to a drilled plan. He's not the mecurial Riewoldt or Bruce but would be an integral part of a premiership team imo.
Quality disposal is key attribute these days. Collingwood's game against Geelong showed that to me. Their disposal was incredible and something we need to lift to.
So I'm happy with what I see in Jack.
Ross play a kid?