Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no strict formula for determining the compensation. Yes the length and amount of the contract is a factor but at the end of the day there is a value judgment that is necessary. It's pretty well accepted that the Frawley compensation was overs.plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Reports in the HS today that Brisbane expect pick 2 in compensation for Leunberger based on the precedent set last year with Frawley. How corrupt has the AFL become that they've now created a new priority pick system out of the blue.
It will still be based on the length of contract and the amount he gets as Frawleys was.
I think we'll get a top 4 pick in the draft.
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FQF wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no strict formula for determining the compensation. Yes the length and amount of the contract is a factor but at the end of the day there is a value judgment that is necessary. It's pretty well accepted that the Frawley compensation was overs.plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Reports in the HS today that Brisbane expect pick 2 in compensation for Leunberger based on the precedent set last year with Frawley. How corrupt has the AFL become that they've now created a new priority pick system out of the blue.
It will still be based on the length of contract and the amount he gets as Frawleys was.
I listen to SEN everyday and not many said Frawley was overs based on the contract. I must admit I wouldn't see Luenberger getting as much as Frawley but if he does then that's what they get.
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FQF wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no strict formula for determining the compensation. Yes the length and amount of the contract is a factor but at the end of the day there is a value judgment that is necessary. It's pretty well accepted that the Frawley compensation was overs.plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Reports in the HS today that Brisbane expect pick 2 in compensation for Leunberger based on the precedent set last year with Frawley. How corrupt has the AFL become that they've now created a new priority pick system out of the blue.
It will still be based on the length of contract and the amount he gets as Frawleys was.
Frawley looks out of place to me amongst the other Hawks players. He lacks skills and sure ball handling ability. Yeah, he was overs.
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plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Reports in the HS today that Brisbane expect pick 2 in compensation for Leunberger based on the precedent set last year with Frawley. How corrupt has the AFL become that they've now created a new priority pick system out of the blue.
It will still be based on the length of contract and the amount he gets as Frawleys was.
Yup - length of contract, amount the player receives and where the club ended up on the table.
Hawks getting 19 for Buddy compared to Melbourne #3 for Frawley (also our bj dal picks) but it was tweeked to give the lower clubs a leg up.
This is how Melbourne got Brayshaw and Petracca last year.
Anyway don't worry, after two years Schache and Weitering will be out of there. Club is a basket case.
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I really like wot you is implying dare Bunky.Bunk_Moreland wrote: Anyway don't worry, after two years Schache and Weitering will be out of there. Club is a basket case.
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They'll probably get a priority pick at the end of the first round. The other clubs will do their block if we have yet another compromised draft because of the AFL's continual propping up of these developing states football sides. Between them and Melbourne, the drafts have been a joke for the past 8 years.plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no strict formula for determining the compensation. Yes the length and amount of the contract is a factor but at the end of the day there is a value judgment that is necessary. It's pretty well accepted that the Frawley compensation was overs.plugger66 wrote:FQF wrote:Reports in the HS today that Brisbane expect pick 2 in compensation for Leunberger based on the precedent set last year with Frawley. How corrupt has the AFL become that they've now created a new priority pick system out of the blue.
It will still be based on the length of contract and the amount he gets as Frawleys was.
I listen to SEN everyday and not many said Frawley was overs based on the contract. I must admit I wouldn't see Luenberger getting as much as Frawley but if he does then that's what they get.
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If Melbourne cannot finish above us on merit with all the talent they have stockpiled on their list, they might as well give the game away. Essendon's final four games compared to ours should mean that they finish above us as well - with all the experience they have, playing the Suns and Collingwood, and with Chapman to come back they would be seriously underperforming to finish beneath us, even if it is on percentage.ace wrote:Melbourne and Essendon are better teams than St Kildakosifantutti wrote:Melbourne won't get close to GWS and Essendon won't win another game.
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How much percentage did Essendon gain on us today?
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Well played sir!kosifantutti wrote:How much percentage did Essendon gain on us today?
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Hi guys can we please stop talking draft picks ? There are still games left this year that we must win cause with the current top 4 list we've got that weekly win right now is far more important than who or how we can get top line talent in
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samuraisaint wrote: Essendon's final four games compared to ours should mean that they finish above us as well - with all the experience they have, playing the Suns and Collingwood, and with Chapman to come back they would be seriously underperforming to finish beneath us, even if it is on percentage.
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Huge gap between 12th and 13th so finishing 13th is not optimal. We are now better off finishing below Melbourne. There is nothing to be gained from finishing 13th instead of 14th. Realistically we are a long way behind Port, GWS and the Pies. I think finishing 13th would be a bit of a false hope result for us.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Huge gap between 12th and 13th so finishing 13th is not optimal. We are now better off finishing below Melbourne. There is nothing to be gained from finishing 13th instead of 14th. Realistically we are a long way behind Port, GWS and the Pies. I think finishing 13th would be a bit of a false hope result for us.
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No need to start calling Con names.Teflon wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Huge gap between 12th and 13th so finishing 13th is not optimal. We are now better off finishing below Melbourne. There is nothing to be gained from finishing 13th instead of 14th. Realistically we are a long way behind Port, GWS and the Pies. I think finishing 13th would be a bit of a false hope result for us.
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+ 1Teflon wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Huge gap between 12th and 13th so finishing 13th is not optimal. We are now better off finishing below Melbourne. There is nothing to be gained from finishing 13th instead of 14th. Realistically we are a long way behind Port, GWS and the Pies. I think finishing 13th would be a bit of a false hope result for us.
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Melbourne should win 2 out of their last 3 anyway so they'll definitely finish above us. And as Con already posted, GWS, Port and Collingwood are all a long way ahead of us. Essendon do seem to be a bit worse than I thought however, and that is even after we gave them a hiding. Incredibly though, I still think they may win another game, but probably not two anymore. Don't really see how they can use WADA as an excuse when a lot of their players came to the club since 2012, still that's their problem.
In where we are list-wise, I cannot believe we were thrashed by Carlton in Wellington this year, and without Judd and Jamison in the side too. I think what it tells us is, we are probably still stage 1 rebuilding. To be honest I was looking forward all year to this last clutch of games to see how we would go against the best - and without having to play Hawthorn. The next three games should be interesting. Hoping for us to remain in the games for four quarters and give these matches a real shake; no 50+point hidings and to be within 6 goals at the final siren.
We desperately need to offload a lot of these guys who panic and can't kick! On top of this it also looks like Lee is probably gone and Spencer White, Markworth etc. Wow. Lot of work to do.
WE are definitely not ready for entering the FA stage yet.
In where we are list-wise, I cannot believe we were thrashed by Carlton in Wellington this year, and without Judd and Jamison in the side too. I think what it tells us is, we are probably still stage 1 rebuilding. To be honest I was looking forward all year to this last clutch of games to see how we would go against the best - and without having to play Hawthorn. The next three games should be interesting. Hoping for us to remain in the games for four quarters and give these matches a real shake; no 50+point hidings and to be within 6 goals at the final siren.
We desperately need to offload a lot of these guys who panic and can't kick! On top of this it also looks like Lee is probably gone and Spencer White, Markworth etc. Wow. Lot of work to do.
WE are definitely not ready for entering the FA stage yet.
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I thought Kerr was coward ?kosifantutti wrote:No need to start calling Con names.Teflon wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Huge gap between 12th and 13th so finishing 13th is not optimal. We are now better off finishing below Melbourne. There is nothing to be gained from finishing 13th instead of 14th. Realistically we are a long way behind Port, GWS and the Pies. I think finishing 13th would be a bit of a false hope result for us.
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Who cares. Lets just pick a fast tall player.
Aaron francis for me. Parish is again SMALL! He looks like a pussy too.
And lets get COLLINS as a KPP.
Collins and Francis for me.
Collins would be a steal for second round.
Aaron francis for me. Parish is again SMALL! He looks like a pussy too.
And lets get COLLINS as a KPP.
Collins and Francis for me.
Collins would be a steal for second round.
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Will Francis make it through to pick 5?SMS wrote:Who cares. Lets just pick a fast tall player.
Aaron francis for me. Parish is again SMALL! He looks like a pussy too.
And lets get COLLINS as a KPP.
Collins and Francis for me.
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I will be livid if the Dees roll-over against the Blues this week. Livid I tell ya!
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Dees beat Carlton as expected, and Essendon with their new coach beat the Suns, and pick 4 could be back in the picture.
I hope we beat Geelong, but still believe they are a comfortably 5 goal better side than us, even at Etihad.
I hope we beat Geelong, but still believe they are a comfortably 5 goal better side than us, even at Etihad.
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