Daniel Markworth
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Re: Daniel Markworth
I think he is safe due to many others who probably have proven they aren't up to it or are ready to retire. Having said that he has a year at the most to go. There are no excuses from now on, even injury. 4 years probably without a game is certainly sticking fat. If he is let go I don't think he would even complain.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
To date Murdoch has been lucky to get 3-4 kicks in a game let alone kick that many goals. Has good attributes but I don't think he can read the play.maverick wrote:Very possibly, hope not….Middo wrote:Have never really seen anything in Murdoch when he has played , have some gone past him now and he's missed the boat ..?
For me Murdoch is one of those players that can kick 3 or 4 and be that strong bodied high HF that bangs around in finals times.
A long way from it at the moment though, I understand…..
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I hope he stays on the list. If Freo can still be carrying Morabito who, while probably more upside, has far worse injury problems, then St Kilda can save a spot on their list for an unfortunate but highly talented and fast kid who's been a bit unlucky.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
Andrew Thompson didn't have his AFL debut until he was almost 25 years old, so there is still hope for Daniel.
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I do not see the issue in keeping him - If he has the traits that we need and the skills that we are looking for - is it not better to nuture him to full health etc and have a Sainter for life, than to take the punt on a number 90+ draft pick, because realistically at this time that is all that he would be freeing up. It is not like we are going to get a bonus 1st rounder if we delist him, and from the sounds of it if he is half as good as we all hope and he is only in our worst 6 on any given day then we have a pretty strong team going forward!!!!
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Sainternist wrote:Andrew Thompson didn't have his AFL debut until he was almost 25 years old, so there is still hope for Daniel.
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Yes there is definitely hope. Id give him a go next year. But at some point reality must meet hope and have a discussion. That discussion may never need to happen because he might just starting playing every week.
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I reckon we are in a pretty decent spot with our list. We've got enough talent at both ends of the experience spectrum, a couple of handy midrange players and a small fleet of unknowns: Markworth, Murdoch, Pierce, White, Saunders, Wright, Lee, Sippos, Minchington, Curren, Simpkin. In order of potential to be more than they've shown.
It's the last few that are closest to the chopping board, the first lot have a year or so to show something, whether its with us or another team who need to shortcut their rebuild or top up for the final push the cheap way.
Being that its a shallow draft this year and the remaining FA morsels aren't very tasty, and being that we will see a couple of retirements at year's end, I don't think we'll need to make much space.
Next year is make or break for all those players apart from Pierce, who will take longer to develop. They are signed up and in no position to demand better terms in their next contracts so they are good squad players to have based on their potential. If they can demand inclusion then great: they replace someone who isn't performing, or if there's no space for them, they can be traded. If they are in the same possie in 12 months, we can see what we can replace them with.
Surely we have to identify the upgrade before we think of cutting anyone from our list, although obviously us fans are more in the dark about that side of the equation.
It's the last few that are closest to the chopping board, the first lot have a year or so to show something, whether its with us or another team who need to shortcut their rebuild or top up for the final push the cheap way.
Being that its a shallow draft this year and the remaining FA morsels aren't very tasty, and being that we will see a couple of retirements at year's end, I don't think we'll need to make much space.
Next year is make or break for all those players apart from Pierce, who will take longer to develop. They are signed up and in no position to demand better terms in their next contracts so they are good squad players to have based on their potential. If they can demand inclusion then great: they replace someone who isn't performing, or if there's no space for them, they can be traded. If they are in the same possie in 12 months, we can see what we can replace them with.
Surely we have to identify the upgrade before we think of cutting anyone from our list, although obviously us fans are more in the dark about that side of the equation.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
If Markworth never makes it, he's still probably got a very promising career ahead of him in medicine, so don't feel too sorry for him. He's given it his best shot.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
No durability, body not up to rigours. Delist or at best rookie list IMO.
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No durability, body not up to rigours. Delist or at best rookie list IMO.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
http://www.sandringhamfc.com.au/footy-m ... spx?id=411
2015 AFL Victoria Development League
Sandringham 2.2 2.9 5.11 9.12 (66)
Casey Scorpions 1.6 2.6 4.10 4.13 (37)
GOALS:
Sandringham: Zijai 5 Williams 2 Weickhardt Ong
Casey Scorpions: Rennie 3 Waters
BEST:
Sandringham: Murdoch Zijai Maitland Markworth Verma Persson
Casey Scorpions: Gains Fisscher McDonald Keilty Corrigan Petropoulos
Sandringham’s development side has made it two wins on the trot, kicking away in the last to run out 29-point victors.
In horrid conditions at Trevor Barker Oval, goals were at a premium for much of the contest. However, the Zebras, led by Yllber Zijai, broke the game open to kick four goals to Casey’s none in the last quarter.
2015 AFL Victoria Development League
Sandringham 2.2 2.9 5.11 9.12 (66)
Casey Scorpions 1.6 2.6 4.10 4.13 (37)
GOALS:
Sandringham: Zijai 5 Williams 2 Weickhardt Ong
Casey Scorpions: Rennie 3 Waters
BEST:
Sandringham: Murdoch Zijai Maitland Markworth Verma Persson
Casey Scorpions: Gains Fisscher McDonald Keilty Corrigan Petropoulos
Sandringham’s development side has made it two wins on the trot, kicking away in the last to run out 29-point victors.
In horrid conditions at Trevor Barker Oval, goals were at a premium for much of the contest. However, the Zebras, led by Yllber Zijai, broke the game open to kick four goals to Casey’s none in the last quarter.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
IMO "players in the 22 to 26 yo bracket" is about experience in games, players who have had at least 60 plus games or quite a few more , but are in the " premiership age"Kernal75 wrote:Saints on record as saying their list profile is unbalanced and they lack players in the 22-26y.o bracket. Seems logical to me that given his injury troubles and a shallow draft outside the first round, that they will keep Markworth on the list for another season. IMO it's better the devil you know sometimes, especially given the kid has talent. Give him a 1 year contract extension and see if he makes the grade
bracket. What I'm trying to say is that he doesn't bring the 22 - 26 yo player game experience that we lack, but having done all the preseasons his body will have more physical maturity that a younger player
That being said I would love to keep him, could be a gun. He certainly could have a bright future "if" he can get his body right, I think we don't
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But pick 90+ could be the next Jack Sinclair. Impossible to know but there's always a cost to every decision.Sainter_Dad wrote:I do not see the issue in keeping him - If he has the traits that we need and the skills that we are looking for - is it not better to nuture him to full health etc and have a Sainter for life, than to take the punt on a number 90+ draft pick, because realistically at this time that is all that he would be freeing up.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
People keep saying he has talent but does he?
He has played a number of games for Sandy and rarely makes it into the best there.
I have only seen him at Sandy a couple of times so I have had to rely on the match reports for performance evaluations.
He is tall and obviously quite quick but he does not seem able to find the ball when playing for Sandy if the reports are anything to go by.
The standard report seems to be that when he gets the ball he looks the goods but is fairly quiet.
I could be wrong and sincerely hope I am but he certainly has not torn it up for Sandy when he has played.
He may well get offered another year or potentially dropped back to the rookie list to give him one last shot.
But if he doesn't get himself a regular spot in the Seniors next year then I am afraid it is bye bye Daniel.
He has played a number of games for Sandy and rarely makes it into the best there.
I have only seen him at Sandy a couple of times so I have had to rely on the match reports for performance evaluations.
He is tall and obviously quite quick but he does not seem able to find the ball when playing for Sandy if the reports are anything to go by.
The standard report seems to be that when he gets the ball he looks the goods but is fairly quiet.
I could be wrong and sincerely hope I am but he certainly has not torn it up for Sandy when he has played.
He may well get offered another year or potentially dropped back to the rookie list to give him one last shot.
But if he doesn't get himself a regular spot in the Seniors next year then I am afraid it is bye bye Daniel.
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No doubt about it that if he isn't playing regular seniors next year, that'll be the end for him. Can't comment on his ability, but for whatever reason there does seem to be unanimous agreement that he has the talent.SinCitySainter wrote:People keep saying he has talent but does he?
He has played a number of games for Sandy and rarely makes it into the best there.
I have only seen him at Sandy a couple of times so I have had to rely on the match reports for performance evaluations.
He is tall and obviously quite quick but he does not seem able to find the ball when playing for Sandy if the reports are anything to go by.
The standard report seems to be that when he gets the ball he looks the goods but is fairly quiet.
I could be wrong and sincerely hope I am but he certainly has not torn it up for Sandy when he has played.
He may well get offered another year or potentially dropped back to the rookie list to give him one last shot.
But if he doesn't get himself a regular spot in the Seniors next year then I am afraid it is bye bye Daniel.
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Re: Daniel Markworth
dragit wrote:3rd consecutive week in the development squad can't be good.
it can when you haven't played much for 3 years and there is an almost fully fit squad-- consistent game time is invaluable.
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I'm sure he's rapt.saintbrat wrote:dragit wrote:3rd consecutive week in the development squad can't be good.
it can when you haven't played much for 3 years and there is an almost fully fit squad-- consistent game time is invaluable.