+1dragit wrote:Rhys is a late inclusion today - I hope he goes well.
Went well v Freo last time.
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+1dragit wrote:Rhys is a late inclusion today - I hope he goes well.
Except that we were playing Bruce as a forward last season.noob wrote:The Stanley Trade has effectively made Bruce go from the defence to a full forward as well as requiring a CHB for 10 years in Hugh Goddard
Spot on.gringo wrote: He is actually a pretty average kick usually but an incredible competitor. His work rate will win him fans, he runs down to stop the ball coming out like a terrier. He is obviously Hammill's pet as he seems to talk to Bruce more than any other player. A very good comparison player IMO. I think he is probably going to be a bit of Riewoldt will get lots of shots on goal so will score but a bit iffy with his set shots.
Trev from the Bush wrote:Rhys has 2 before half time, both from running on the half forward line. No marks; even though he is a good mark I reckon it was his uncanny ability to drop sitters that made the Saints send him across the bay.
Bruce is a different type of player, more a crash-through type. He, too, has had difficulty clutching marks. Last night he grabbed everything.
With confidence comes belief. Not only true for Josh Bruce but the whole team as last night demonstrated.
PS: Good luck to Rhys, he strained my belief but I hope he slays them at the Cats.
Very true.gringo wrote:Trev from the Bush wrote:Rhys has 2 before half time, both from running on the half forward line. No marks; even though he is a good mark I reckon it was his uncanny ability to drop sitters that made the Saints send him across the bay.
Bruce is a different type of player, more a crash-through type. He, too, has had difficulty clutching marks. Last night he grabbed everything.
With confidence comes belief. Not only true for Josh Bruce but the whole team as last night demonstrated.
PS: Good luck to Rhys, he strained my belief but I hope he slays them at the Cats.
He's a nice guy and sometimes a restart gets you going. Hope he is the best player in a bad team. Cats time to fail.
Life is like a cumquatJacks Back wrote:The saying has been around for hundreds of years. It first appeared in 1546 in John Heywood’s A dialogue conteinyng the nomber in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue. Experts believe the phrase came from medieval English farmers.plugger66 wrote:Major difference is Bruce works harder to get the ball. He looks to have a huge amount of potential. And he is hard at it. I don't care who is better of the 2 but the one we now have is making hay whilst the sun shines, whatever that means.
Hundreds of years ago, it would take many days for farmers to cut, dry and gather hay. Today, it’s much easier to make hay because of our modern machinery and weather forecasting.
Since hay can be ruined easily if it gets too wet, medieval farmers had to take advantage of hot, dry, sunny weather to cut and gather hay. Thus, “make hay while the sun shines” was just a matter of common sense to them.
They eventually began to use the phrase generally to mean to take advantage of circumstances before the chance slips away.
This proverb, like so many others, offers good advice. Opportunities may only come along every so often.
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And he got muscled out of a boundary ruck contest by the human stick Zac ClarkesaintsRrising wrote:Well I only watched one quarter...and so cannot comment on how well he actually played. But sats wise he did better than Hawkins , the Cats main go-to player, and much better than Clark.
Which goes to show why they might have wanted him. Three towers of terror. Shame the rest are fading a bit. They seem to be ready for a slide finally.saintsRrising wrote:Well I only watched one quarter...and so cannot comment on how well he actually played. But sats wise he did better than Hawkins , the Cats main go-to player, and much better than Clark.
Interesting obs iceman. Not sure the last goal he kicked was the case. He turned May inside out like a pro I thought. That mark he took with 3 guys hanging off him in the 2nd quarter looked like a great fwds mark as well. This Friday will be my first game watching live so it'll be interesting to watch. I hope you're wrong because we desperately need a genuine second tall option up fwd.iceman wrote:I was an interested observer in the outer on Saturday night and to be honest have held the belief that Bruce will end up going to CHB/FB. I think 4 of his goals were from inside 15, 3 of then on pretty much the goal line, a few grabs from almost mis-kicks deep that no Hawthorn/Freo/PA/Syd etc. 'team defence' would ever allow. To me Bruce doesn't seen to have natural leading patterns up forward to go to the advantage of the kicker. 6 goals was an awesome return and he is willing to throw himself at the contest that creates chances for everyone around him too! I would love to see him continue this form and prove me wrong, however I still feel this is a bit of an experiment while the likes of McCartin and White develop and Fisher is able to hold down a post in defence. What he had done is create positive headaches for the coaching staff and list managers!
Clark is injured again isn't he?saintsRrising wrote:Well I only watched one quarter...and so cannot comment on how well he actually played. But stats wise he did better than Hawkins , the Cats main go-to player, and much better than Clark.
samuraisaint wrote:We should never have wasted pick 13 on Lee. Criminally stupid decision.
Yep, agree he has willingness to fly and also instinct when near the footy, my observations were more referring to when the play was 2 or 3 contests away, further up the ground.. When to go, where to go etc! Didn't seem instinctive or natural with his running patterns when well away from the footy! I suppose when our other key forward is Roo who makes things look easy it' can become a harsher judgment.. Mind you if he can be a force within 30m from goal than its less relevant. I would love to be wrong also! Keen to hear thoughts after this weekend! (Also I may have been a few beers deepMoods wrote:Interesting obs iceman. Not sure the last goal he kicked was the case. He turned May inside out like a pro I thought. That mark he took with 3 guys hanging off him in the 2nd quarter looked like a great fwds mark as well. This Friday will be my first game watching live so it'll be interesting to watch. I hope you're wrong because we desperately need a genuine second tall option up fwd.iceman wrote:I was an interested observer in the outer on Saturday night and to be honest have held the belief that Bruce will end up going to CHB/FB. I think 4 of his goals were from inside 15, 3 of then on pretty much the goal line, a few grabs from almost mis-kicks deep that no Hawthorn/Freo/PA/Syd etc. 'team defence' would ever allow. To me Bruce doesn't seen to have natural leading patterns up forward to go to the advantage of the kicker. 6 goals was an awesome return and he is willing to throw himself at the contest that creates chances for everyone around him too! I would love to see him continue this form and prove me wrong, however I still feel this is a bit of an experiment while the likes of McCartin and White develop and Fisher is able to hold down a post in defence. What he had done is create positive headaches for the coaching staff and list managers!
I remember last year watching Bruce in his first game forward. I was sitting on the boundary and he was in position and/ or leading to the right spots every time. He is so natural as a forward it got me excited. I don't know how he will handle the better defenders but so far this year he has had his share of contested marks in close and the speccies. Also can gather the ball and is quick off the mark. His biggest obstacle will be his set shot kicking. Occasionally he sprays them. Rooey and Members help too by pulling in different directions. That's why the Hawks hurt you. Roughy, Gunston, Hale/Mc Evoy can all swap who will draw their man and who will lead into dangerous spots. Gunston and Roughy can then get the hard angles right too if they happen to get kicked to.iceman wrote:Yep, agree he has willingness to fly and also instinct when near the footy, my observations were more referring to when the play was 2 or 3 contests away, further up the ground.. When to go, where to go etc! Didn't seem instinctive or natural with his running patterns when well away from the footy! I suppose when our other key forward is Roo who makes things look easy it' can become a harsher judgment.. Mind you if he can be a force within 30m from goal than its less relevant. I would love to be wrong also! Keen to hear thoughts after this weekend! (Also I may have been a few beers deepMoods wrote:Interesting obs iceman. Not sure the last goal he kicked was the case. He turned May inside out like a pro I thought. That mark he took with 3 guys hanging off him in the 2nd quarter looked like a great fwds mark as well. This Friday will be my first game watching live so it'll be interesting to watch. I hope you're wrong because we desperately need a genuine second tall option up fwd.iceman wrote:I was an interested observer in the outer on Saturday night and to be honest have held the belief that Bruce will end up going to CHB/FB. I think 4 of his goals were from inside 15, 3 of then on pretty much the goal line, a few grabs from almost mis-kicks deep that no Hawthorn/Freo/PA/Syd etc. 'team defence' would ever allow. To me Bruce doesn't seen to have natural leading patterns up forward to go to the advantage of the kicker. 6 goals was an awesome return and he is willing to throw himself at the contest that creates chances for everyone around him too! I would love to see him continue this form and prove me wrong, however I still feel this is a bit of an experiment while the likes of McCartin and White develop and Fisher is able to hold down a post in defence. What he had done is create positive headaches for the coaching staff and list managers!)
With the shape of our list we needed to do "something" so to speed things up we played the numbers.samuraisaint wrote:We should never have wasted pick 13 on Lee. Criminally stupid decision.
All over?Con Gorozidis wrote:Bruce is all over Stanley at the same age
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p ... 1=O&fid2=O
Dont worry about goals (even though they are important).dragit wrote:All over?Con Gorozidis wrote:Bruce is all over Stanley at the same age
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p ... 1=O&fid2=O
I wonder how many goals Bruce would have kicked if he was playing full back this year?