and look how great he is. We know who's smiling with that dealCon Gorozidis wrote:Silly if true. Schulz and Josh Kennedy kicked 127 goals between them last year. Doubt either is on a huge wage.johng wrote:We took McCartin because we got scared off by seeing what the bulldogs had to pay for a key forward.
There wil be another petracca next year and the year after that and after that.
Dogs took a huge punt on Boyd. But im not convinced one deal means that is a benchmark for everyone for evermore. Look at what GWS paid for Scully.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
yeah scully is. thats my whole point.magnifisaint wrote:and look how great he is. We know who's smiling with that dealCon Gorozidis wrote:Silly if true. Schulz and Josh Kennedy kicked 127 goals between them last year. Doubt either is on a huge wage.johng wrote:We took McCartin because we got scared off by seeing what the bulldogs had to pay for a key forward.
There wil be another petracca next year and the year after that and after that.
Dogs took a huge punt on Boyd. But im not convinced one deal means that is a benchmark for everyone for evermore. Look at what GWS paid for Scully.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Exactly!Con Gorozidis wrote:
Dogs took a huge punt on Boyd. But im not convinced one deal means that is a benchmark for everyone for evermore. Look at what GWS paid for Scully.
Franklin is a proven forward just as Ablett is a proven midfielder - they deserved to set the renumeration bench mark in their respective roles, whereas Boyd may just turn out be another speculative Scully and should not be considered a precedent.
Who deserves to be paid more - a Franklin or an Ablett?
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
samoht wrote:Exactly!Con Gorozidis wrote:
Dogs took a huge punt on Boyd. But im not convinced one deal means that is a benchmark for everyone for evermore. Look at what GWS paid for Scully.
Franklin is a proven forward just as Ablett is a proven midfielder - they deserve to set the renumeration bench mark in their respective roles, whereas Boyd may just turn out be another speculative Scully and should not be considered a precedent.
Who deserves to be paid more - a Franklin or an Ablett?
Neither.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Exactly. Forwards are not setting the benchmark.plugger66 wrote:samoht wrote:Exactly!Con Gorozidis wrote:
Dogs took a huge punt on Boyd. But im not convinced one deal means that is a benchmark for everyone for evermore. Look at what GWS paid for Scully.
Franklin is a proven forward just as Ablett is a proven midfielder - they deserve to set the renumeration bench mark in their respective roles, whereas Boyd may just turn out be another speculative Scully and should not be considered a precedent.
Who deserves to be paid more - a Franklin or an Ablett?
Neither.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
What woud you expect in the next year or two when some of those younger Bulldog players have to negotiate new contracts and they look at how much the club is paying for Boyd - more trouble looming IMO.
Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Goddard Magic wrote:What woud you expect in the next year or two when some of those younger Bulldog players have to negotiate new contracts and they look at how much the club is paying for Boyd - more trouble looming IMO.
Im not sure that really happens. I reckon players only care if they are getting the right money and don't really care what others get. Don't think it happened at GWS with Scully.
Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
I reckon there were plenty of reports when BJ left saying that he developed his game through the times when Roo was getting one million or so a year and when it was his turn for a big contract put up his hand and we weren't interested.plugger66 wrote:Goddard Magic wrote:What woud you expect in the next year or two when some of those younger Bulldog players have to negotiate new contracts and they look at how much the club is paying for Boyd - more trouble looming IMO.
Im not sure that really happens. I reckon players only care if they are getting the right money and don't really care what others get. Don't think it happened at GWS with Scully.
I know plenty of information has come out about why we baulked, about bonuses and the state of our salary cap - but I do believe there is some merit to the original comment regarding Boyd. Having said that, I don't think they have that many dead set a graders, it's more an even spread with maybe Macrae, Libba, Bont and maybe Stringer capable of going to that next level.
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When their is no money left to them they do care.plugger66 wrote:Goddard Magic wrote:What woud you expect in the next year or two when some of those younger Bulldog players have to negotiate new contracts and they look at how much the club is paying for Boyd - more trouble looming IMO.
Im not sure that really happens. I reckon players only care if they are getting the right money and don't really care what others get. Don't think it happened at GWS with Scully.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Boyd not a huge gamble .the guy is a gun .Im just saying to get a Boyd type at our club eg Jeremy Cameron, that is the type of money we are going to have to pay.we don't have it and I can't see that we will ever have that type of money.to use on one player
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johng wrote:Boyd not a huge gamble .the guy is a gun .Im just saying to get a Boyd type at our club eg Jeremy Cameron, that is the type of money we are going to have to pay.we don't have it and I can't see that we will ever have that type of money.to use on one player
What do you mean we don't have it? There is a SC that must be paid. Of course we have it, its whether we think one player is worth that much.
Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Lee, Paddy, Rooey, Membrey, White, Payne, Goddard, Bruce, resting ruck.
Considering we are in a major development stage.
The 9 potential names I've listed could all be busts, but I'm keen on giving them a chance first.
Considering we are in a major development stage.
The 9 potential names I've listed could all be busts, but I'm keen on giving them a chance first.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
there's only one argument as to whether or not this was the most logical choice, and that is whether or not he was the best player
there's evidence to suggest he was... evidence to suggest he was number 2
jury is out
there's evidence to suggest he was... evidence to suggest he was number 2
jury is out
Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
skeptic wrote:there's only one argument as to whether or not this was the most logical choice, and that is whether or not he was the best player
there's evidence to suggest he was... evidence to suggest he was number 2
jury is out
Well that means the jury is still out on Petracca as well then and every player taken in the draft.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
'Coming out of the footy factory down there in Geelong'Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
If they're not from Oakleigh we won't touch them.Con Gorozidis wrote:'Coming out of the footy factory down there in Geelong'Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
I thought Petracca was " a once in a generation player "
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
dragit wrote:If they're not from Oakleigh we won't touch them.Con Gorozidis wrote:'Coming out of the footy factory down there in Geelong'Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
Well apparently you only have a 'good character' and are a 'good person' from a 'great family' if you live within 100km so our recruiting staff can pop in for tea and scones.
If you live further away than that you are clearly a complete dick-head and all your family are drug dealers and perverts.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
That would make him better than Juddevo wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
I thought Petracca was " a once in a generation player "
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
well...if you come from sth aussie...or tassie for that matter............Con Gorozidis wrote:dragit wrote:If they're not from Oakleigh we won't touch them.Con Gorozidis wrote:'Coming out of the footy factory down there in Geelong'Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
Well apparently you only have a 'good character' and are a 'good person' from a 'great family' if you live within 100km so our recruiting staff can pop in for tea and scones.
If you live further away than that you are clearly a complete dick-head and all your family are drug dealers and perverts.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Or ablett.. swan... hayes... riewoldt... cousins...magnifisaint wrote:That would make him better than Juddevo wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
I thought Petracca was " a once in a generation player "
Aaron fiora was a once in a generation player aswell so was watts and kruezer
Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
crippsy wrote:Or ablett.. swan... hayes... riewoldt... cousins...magnifisaint wrote:That would make him better than Juddevo wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
I thought Petracca was " a once in a generation player "
Aaron fiora was a once in a generation player aswell so was watts and kruezer
The wakelins weren't.
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Re: Why McCartin was a logical choice
Touchéplugger66 wrote:crippsy wrote:Or ablett.. swan... hayes... riewoldt... cousins...magnifisaint wrote:That would make him better than Juddevo wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:We are bound to be bottom or second last in 2015.
Parish and Mathesion are supposed to be as good as Petracca.
We will nab one of them.
I thought Petracca was " a once in a generation player "
Aaron fiora was a once in a generation player aswell so was watts and kruezer
The wakelins weren't.
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