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Re: GWS to get pick 1
Did anyone else get the feeling, KJ and JOK were using St Kilda as a 'preferred' second destination because St Kilda had access to the PSD and in so when negotiating with their actual preferred destinations, this would be in the Hawks/Carlton's favour as in take this, or you could lose him to St Kilda for less....?
It was weird they both seemed to be hanging on to the St Kilda idea, when they had actually chosen otherwise.
Leaving the club in limbo for a period of time.
It was weird they both seemed to be hanging on to the St Kilda idea, when they had actually chosen otherwise.
Leaving the club in limbo for a period of time.
Re: GWS to get pick 1
I think pick one is absolutely on the table but no one will come close to giving us what we want.Rosco wrote:I think it remains on the table. Just a different table. Where it has always been.magnifisaint wrote:So pick 1 is off the table
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Re: GWS to get pick 1
How? Jaksch said he preferred Carlton days ago, but Carlton cant get the deal done.
BTW Saints have upped the offer to Jaksch and put more pressure on Carlton.
Even if we miss out Carlton may have to pay pick #7.
Hawks will probably pay 18 for JOR.
GWS can then trade #4, #7 and #18 for #1 and we get the picks that JOR and Jaksch cost the other clubs. OR
we keep #1 and get Petracca
cant see how we lose on this
BTW Saints have upped the offer to Jaksch and put more pressure on Carlton.
Even if we miss out Carlton may have to pay pick #7.
Hawks will probably pay 18 for JOR.
GWS can then trade #4, #7 and #18 for #1 and we get the picks that JOR and Jaksch cost the other clubs. OR
we keep #1 and get Petracca
cant see how we lose on this
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Re: GWS to get pick 1
Could it be the plan in the first place to feign interest in both players to up the draft picks and get te 3 we want.
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Re: GWS to get pick 1
Bunk_Moreland wrote:How? Jaksch said he preferred Carlton days ago, but Carlton cant get the deal done.
BTW Saints have upped the offer to Jaksch and put more pressure on Carlton.
Even if we miss out Carlton may have to pay pick #7.
Hawks will probably pay 18 for JOR.
GWS can then trade #4, #7 and #18 for #1 and we get the picks that JOR and Jaksch cost the other clubs. OR
we keep #1 and get Petracca
cant see how we lose on this
yep...entered my head that picks given in trades for those two players could end up at sorento.....
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Re: GWS to get pick 1
Carlton aren't going to pay pick 7 for Jakasch unless they are mad. He was drafted at 12 and shown little. I cant believe the Hawks will even give 18 for JOK even though he was drafted at 2. Looks very outside to me.
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Yes pick 7 is way overs. Unless they can do a deal, we may be able to do something considering it was tweeted that the Saints would up the deal now JOR is gone.plugger66 wrote:Carlton aren't going to pay pick 7 for Jakasch unless they are mad. He was drafted at 12 and shown little. I cant believe the Hawks will even give 18 for JOK even though he was drafted at 2. Looks very outside to me.
pick 19 for an injury prone bust is also overs IMho.
Still if we somehow got 4, 7, 19 for 1 I wouldn't say no. Hawks and Carlton can have them, I reckon what we got forthose three picks would be a better bet anyway
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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Yes pick 7 is way overs. Unless they can do a deal, we may be able to do something considering it was tweeted that the Saints would up the deal now JOR is gone.plugger66 wrote:Carlton aren't going to pay pick 7 for Jakasch unless they are mad. He was drafted at 12 and shown little. I cant believe the Hawks will even give 18 for JOK even though he was drafted at 2. Looks very outside to me.
pick 19 for an injury prone bust is also overs IMho.
Still if we somehow got 4, 7, 19 for 1 I wouldn't say no. Hawks and Carlton can have them, I reckon what we got forthose three picks would be a better bet anyway
I think I got the king of rock mixed up with JOR.
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Maybe JOR will be known as the Mild One if he is as outside as you reckonplugger66 wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:Yes pick 7 is way overs. Unless they can do a deal, we may be able to do something considering it was tweeted that the Saints would up the deal now JOR is gone.plugger66 wrote:Carlton aren't going to pay pick 7 for Jakasch unless they are mad. He was drafted at 12 and shown little. I cant believe the Hawks will even give 18 for JOK even though he was drafted at 2. Looks very outside to me.
pick 19 for an injury prone bust is also overs IMho.
Still if we somehow got 4, 7, 19 for 1 I wouldn't say no. Hawks and Carlton can have them, I reckon what we got forthose three picks would be a better bet anyway
I think I got the king of rock mixed up with JOR.
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What's the point of getting 2 or 3 average players in exchange for one great player. I don't get it. Keep pick 1. Too much of a lottery after the first 5 picks.
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I'd take it. The draft is too much of a lottery full stop. We have to use pick 21 as well though.Spinner wrote:Might be just me but I'm not keen on picks 4, 7 and 18 for Pick 1....
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Don't mind that,sitting on the fence here 50/50 imoRosco wrote:I'd take it. The draft is too much of a lottery full stop. We have to use pick 21 as well though.Spinner wrote:Might be just me but I'm not keen on picks 4, 7 and 18 for Pick 1....
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What's the point of getting 2 or 3 average players in exchange for one great player. I don't get it. Keep pick 1. Too much of a lottery after the first 5 picks.
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4, 17 and 18 is very tempting if you ask me...
4, 17, 18, 21. Youd think that should certainly get us two good players. Probably three. And possibly 4.
4, 17, 18, 21. Youd think that should certainly get us two good players. Probably three. And possibly 4.
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No. Petracca will be the one we pick up if we still have #1ausfatcat wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:
we keep #1 and get Petracca
I think we will get McCartin with pick 1
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3, 18, 19 last year gave us Billings Acres Dunstan.Con Gorozidis wrote:4, 17 and 18 is very tempting if you ask me...
4, 17, 18, 21. Youd think that should certainly get us two good players. Probably three. And possibly 4.
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If we want to rebuild quickly; we need multiple picks so that the team can be brought through together. One stand out player in an ordinary list
won't get us anywhere. Personally I'd take 3 good picks inside 20 rather than just pick 1. Mind you I'd be very nervous in case the number 1 turned out to be a superstar.
won't get us anywhere. Personally I'd take 3 good picks inside 20 rather than just pick 1. Mind you I'd be very nervous in case the number 1 turned out to be a superstar.
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To be fair, it all depends on if we think Patrecca is a Judd/Riewoldt type player. If not, why not get 2-3 players who might have the same ceiling as Petrecca.
People don't see that where our list is at currently, we need lots of talent quickly before we can do a Port Adelaide and content in finals, not just getting 1 'potential' star a year. Just look at Carlton, they've been crap for 10 years... got Cruizer (#1), Marc Murphy (#1), Gibbs (#1), walker (#2), Judd (#4), and are still no where close to the flag.
People don't see that where our list is at currently, we need lots of talent quickly before we can do a Port Adelaide and content in finals, not just getting 1 'potential' star a year. Just look at Carlton, they've been crap for 10 years... got Cruizer (#1), Marc Murphy (#1), Gibbs (#1), walker (#2), Judd (#4), and are still no where close to the flag.
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linz wrote:If we want to rebuild quickly; we need multiple picks so that the team can be brought through together. One stand out player in an ordinary list
won't get us anywhere. Personally I'd take 3 good picks inside 20 rather than just pick 1. Mind you I'd be very nervous in case the number 1 turned out to be a superstar.
Well if we can trust our recruiters then 4 top 20 picks looks very appealing.... I know its a big if. But three number 1 picks hasnt got Carlton anywhere..... 2 or 3 good players has to be better than one gun player imo.
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I'm glad to hear this because he keeps tweeting that he's a collingwood supporterRick88 wrote:I bumped into Christian Petracca at the Listen Out festival on Saturday! He is a big boy and he loved that my brother and I recognised him. We asked him if he was going to get to the Saints and he said he hoped so with a huge smile on his face. Seems like a top person as well. Think we should just take him!
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ausfatcat wrote:I think we will get McCartin with pick 1
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If that's the case, unload that number one pick for the deal above!
Aus, IMHO one-trick McCartin will struggle to even make in the AFL...full stop! Let alone be worth a top five pick.
Any deal for Petracca must start with Cameron on the table, then the offer made to us is built up from that starting point.
This draft is Petracca, then... daylight.
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You crazy!ausfatcat wrote:Bunk_Moreland wrote:
we keep #1 and get Petracca
I think we will get McCartin with pick 1
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