plugger66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:plugger66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:borderbarry wrote:I did not think Cyril had a good game in the GF. Overshadowed by young Hill, and Cyril was probably not match conditioned.
I noticed a great quote from Hodge on the day before the game. He really tried the psyche out. He said all the players love having Cyril in the side because they know from experience in their own match pratice then even when Cyril doesnt get the ball he makes the backs panic when they have the ball cos you always have it in the back of your mind 'where is cyril?' because he sometimes comes from out of nowhere and tackles you. he said - so if we worry about him - we know the swans will worry about him too.
To be honest it is this 'panic' factor that we lacked in our fwd line when had a good side. Even when we were good - opposition sides would clear it from our fwd line with relative ease. It was really our awesome defence in those years that continually saved our bacon from frequent attacks.
I don't that last paragraph is true at all. Our defensive pressure in the forward line in 2009 was second to none. We kept the ball in there a hell of a lot. That was a huge strength of our club back then.
Disagree. We talked about it a lot. Lots and lots of talk about 'forward pressure'. But it was no good in reality. Unless you are going to try and tell me how great Eddy was in the space filling role? Kosi wasnt providing any and Roo and Milney very provided limited resistence when we didnt have the ball (witches hats basiclly). Schneider sure as hell wasnt providing any. I cant think of an easier fwd line to clear from.... Oh well I can actually (think Lee, Spencer, Roo, Schneider)
Go and watch some replays. Opposition half backs used to have a picnic against us. Harry, Harbrow, Shaw, Corey, Mackie, Kelly regularly ran riot against us.
We sure as hell didnt have anyone with a whispering death come out of nowhere and tackle fear factor like Cyril provides.
Once again the myth differs greatly from the reality.
I would suggest your memory differs greater from reality. I don't care who you named but we clearly had the best forward pressure in the AFL in 2009. That was our trademark. And if the opposition had such a picnic against us how did we win 19 in a row? And rather watch replays I will just remember what actually happened that year. And if this isn't the silliest statement ever than it is close to it considering we did win 19 in a row.
I cant think of an easier fwd line to clear from
Con please think about what you post before you post.
You just used the word 'trademark'.. There is no marketing gumpf you wont swallow. When the Kool Aid is served you are the one skulling from the bucket and asking 'please sir can I have some more' like Oliver Twist.
I think I can rest my case just on that.
I said
opposition half backs had a picnic against us - I then went on to name the actual players who really did dominate against us in actual real games. But typical of you to twist words and misrepresent to attempt to 'score a point'. Also typical that you wont use facts or address actual real events you just resort to nebulous words like 'trademark'. Our defence was awesome. Midfield good. And fwds were goal kickers. We generaly played with a manic intent - especially down back an in stoppages. That adds up to our 19 wins.
But our fwd pressure was rubbish onec the ball hit the ground it was easily cleared with no pressure. We conceded quite a lot of inside 50s. Talking about it and using words like 'trademark' doesnt make it true. Its just marketing and words.
All those fwds I named are rubbish at fwd pressure. Do you honestly think any of Milne, Roo, Kosi, Schneider, Eddy provided quality fwd pressure?
Hysterical that you instruct me to think before posting.
Take the rose tints off the glasses.