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And it was just 4 years ago...
Last Sunday, at the March for Climate Change Action, I met up with a friend I had not seen for almost ten years. He is a dyed-in-the-wool Collingwood supporter, but we always got on anyway. He said we should have won in 2010. Maybe. Count the bounces today - those that go to the advantage and those that don't - and see who wins.
One year earlier, my worst fear was that the day would have showers. Our singular advantage over Geelong was our marking ability overhead on the forward line. Just nine marks between Nick and Kosi (compare with Round 14 under the roof when it was 11 each). The weather diminished that - oh for a day like today in 2009. But we still had plenty of chances - we blew them. And that's been the secret to many GFs in the last decade. Whoever takes their chances today will raise the cup.
One year earlier, my worst fear was that the day would have showers. Our singular advantage over Geelong was our marking ability overhead on the forward line. Just nine marks between Nick and Kosi (compare with Round 14 under the roof when it was 11 each). The weather diminished that - oh for a day like today in 2009. But we still had plenty of chances - we blew them. And that's been the secret to many GFs in the last decade. Whoever takes their chances today will raise the cup.
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Re: And it was just 4 years ago...
We should have won in 09 and lost in 10
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Too painful.
kind of "grew up" watching that list start in 2003 to make a grand final in 2009
the 2004 list was better, but the 09 list was a better team..more disciplined.
Tragic we were never able to win a flag with so many deserving players.
kind of "grew up" watching that list start in 2003 to make a grand final in 2009
the 2004 list was better, but the 09 list was a better team..more disciplined.
Tragic we were never able to win a flag with so many deserving players.
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Grand Final day makes me feel sick in the guts.
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Selhurst Saint wrote:Grand Final day makes me feel sick in the guts.
I can't watch- I always feel sad for the players who worked so hard for simple things to defeat them
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Lenny on Grandfinals
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/lenny- ... 7072293111
ST KILDA’S Lenny Hayes retired this year as a champion of the AFL.
But he never tasted the ultimate success.
In this book extract, the 297-game midfielder describes the heartache he felt after losing the 2009 Grand Final to Geelong by 12 points.
He openly admits crying in the changerooms after the game.
Perhaps his biggest reveal, though, is that he didn’t speak to his future wife Tara for two weeks as he dealt with his grief.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/lenny- ... 7072293111
ST KILDA’S Lenny Hayes retired this year as a champion of the AFL.
But he never tasted the ultimate success.
In this book extract, the 297-game midfielder describes the heartache he felt after losing the 2009 Grand Final to Geelong by 12 points.
He openly admits crying in the changerooms after the game.
Perhaps his biggest reveal, though, is that he didn’t speak to his future wife Tara for two weeks as he dealt with his grief.
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I've only ever cried in public three times as an adult and two of them were after grand final losses - 1997 and 2009. The 97 loss is still the single most disappointing thing I've ever experienced. Not the saddest (by any stretch) but the most disappointing.
Wounds heal but scars remain, whether they're physical or emotional. Sometimes thing happen to rake over those scars, and we flinch because they're still tender.
Grand Final day rakes over the scars of the missed opportunities in 97, 09, and 10 for me because we know the feeling all too well. And when young Langford's kick took a fortunate bounce and went through for a goal, I couldn't help but wonder why Lenny's kick out in front of Milney couldn't have taken a more fortunate bounce for us.
Wounds heal but scars remain, whether they're physical or emotional. Sometimes thing happen to rake over those scars, and we flinch because they're still tender.
Grand Final day rakes over the scars of the missed opportunities in 97, 09, and 10 for me because we know the feeling all too well. And when young Langford's kick took a fortunate bounce and went through for a goal, I couldn't help but wonder why Lenny's kick out in front of Milney couldn't have taken a more fortunate bounce for us.
Still waiting for closure ... if you get my drift.
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ctqs wrote:I've only ever cried in public three times as an adult and two of them were after grand final losses - 1997 and 2009. The 97 loss is still the single most disappointing thing I've ever experienced. Not the saddest (by any stretch) but the most disappointing.
I didn't cry but I threw a na na.
In 97, I tipped the portable television out the window of the shared house I was living in.
My house mates asked me to leave.
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You poor, poor darling SaintPav...................... they obviously weren't Saint supporters and couldn't empathise with you. Bet they were Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood supporters who had premiership history coming out of their ears, and really couldn't experience the pain of a Sainter!!!SaintPav wrote:ctqs wrote:I've only ever cried in public three times as an adult and two of them were after grand final losses - 1997 and 2009. The 97 loss is still the single most disappointing thing I've ever experienced. Not the saddest (by any stretch) but the most disappointing.
I didn't cry but I threw a na na.
In 97, I tipped the portable television out the window of the shared house I was living in.
My house mates asked me to leave.
As you left the shared house.......... I hope you were singing " Walk a mile in my shoes, before you criticise and abuse"
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Should've thrown it at them, Pav.
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It's only a bloody game for goodness sake!
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Yeah, it's only a game and winning a flag wouldn't change the world but I reckon it would change ours, because it'd be the achievement of something all of us have wanted see and invested so much in for such a long time.
Still waiting for closure ... if you get my drift.
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I was standing with Lenny's mum after that game in the change rooms.
He came over to her, started crying, gave her a hug and said to her "It's just not fair, mum".
I then started crying.
He came over to her, started crying, gave her a hug and said to her "It's just not fair, mum".
I then started crying.
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Amazing isn't it, Hawthorn have won 10 additional flags since they beat us in 1971 and all we have won is umpteen wooden spoons.
Talk about a fork in the road....
To think they nearly merged with a club that is a modern day basket case
Talk about a fork in the road....
To think they nearly merged with a club that is a modern day basket case
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Bloody Adelaide supportersSaintPav wrote: My house mates asked me to leave.
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Thanks Loris. That is very kind.loris wrote:You poor, poor darling SaintPav...................... they obviously weren't Saint supporters and couldn't empathise with you. Bet they were Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood supporters who had premiership history coming out of their ears, and really couldn't experience the pain of a Sainter!!!SaintPav wrote:ctqs wrote:I've only ever cried in public three times as an adult and two of them were after grand final losses - 1997 and 2009. The 97 loss is still the single most disappointing thing I've ever experienced. Not the saddest (by any stretch) but the most disappointing.
I didn't cry but I threw a na na.
In 97, I tipped the portable television out the window of the shared house I was living in.
My house mates asked me to leave.
As you left the shared house.......... I hope you were singing " Walk a mile in my shoes, before you criticise and abuse"
The two ladies were not footy supporters so they did not understand.
I was very contrite and did the house work for a week or two. They did forgive me, eventually.
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Makes me feel a bit better to know others share my pain as a Saint Supporter. I turned off game today in 2nd q. Couldn't stand to watch the Hawks walk around parading another cup. Also Grand Finals now bring back those sad recollections of 4 years ago .... and 5 years ago. Ah to taste that premiership feeling once. And as I said to my son tonight - there's McEvoy ... who played a handful of games in 2014 - first year with Hawks and he has a medallion. How deserving were Hayes, Reiwoldt, Burke, Harvey ... and they have not one to show.
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I cried in 1965 after listening to the game on the radio. I was 9 at the time! All our losses since I've been in a kind of grieving shock. I flew down in 09 from the UK, arrived morning of the game, and went to the game jet-lagged. Felt terrible after the game with a combination of things.
I must admit it took quite some time to get over those 09/10 losses. We were never favourites in either year though. Neither Premiership was a given, but we should have nailed that 09 flag. Goes in with the 71 and 97 GF's being ahead at three quarter time. Oh, the pain!!
I must admit it took quite some time to get over those 09/10 losses. We were never favourites in either year though. Neither Premiership was a given, but we should have nailed that 09 flag. Goes in with the 71 and 97 GF's being ahead at three quarter time. Oh, the pain!!
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I was inconsolable at the MCG after that match in 1965, the tears would not stop.Verdun66 wrote:
I cried in 1965 after listening to the game on the radio. I was 9 at the time!
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Then would you believe, in 1966 again at the MCG, I could hardly see the whole presentation ceremony after our 1 point win................................ I could not stop crying.
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This time it was tears of relief/joy....who knows what emotions were intertwined. I just could not stop crying, infact I was sobbing, the emotion was overwhelming.
So dear Sainters who have not been as lucky as this old girl (one advantage of age) and been there at the 'G' to see the Saints snatch the 'Holy Grail', I think you too may cry, cry, cry when they finally win another cup for us this century. I just hope you experience it......... amid the flood of tears, in hindsight it's simply............beautiful
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I again had tears today when the Hawks players got their medals. Jealous. f****** oath. Pissed off. No. It was 3 great weeks. It is years away again.
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I was lucky too Loris in being able to be there in 66, up in the Northern Stand with my Dad. Without that great memory not sure how I would have got over the other losses. Another flag for the younger supporters would be great, but I'd still like it for the older ones!loris wrote:I was inconsolable at the MCG after that match in 1965, the tears would not stop.Verdun66 wrote:
I cried in 1965 after listening to the game on the radio. I was 9 at the time!
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Then would you believe, in 1966 again at the MCG, I could hardly see the whole presentation ceremony after our 1 point win................................ I could not stop crying.![]()
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This time it was tears of relief/joy....who knows what emotions were intertwined. I just could not stop crying, infact I was sobbing, the emotion was overwhelming.
So dear Sainters who have not been as lucky as this old girl (one advantage of age) and been there at the 'G' to see the Saints snatch the 'Holy Grail', I think you too may cry, cry, cry when they finally win another cup for us this century. I just hope you experience it......... amid the flood of tears, in hindsight it's simply............beautiful
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Not trying to be a pedant or nitpick you but we weren't ahead in 97 at 3/4 time. We were up at 1/2 time but 10 points down at 3/4 time. The camrys managed 14 goals in the second half to demolish us. I just raise the point because I also in my head thought we were up at 3/4 time and I was at that game. In my head we were up and then Jarman beat us in the final qr. The reality is a bit different. It just goes to show how our memories can create myths over the years.Verdun66 wrote:I cried in 1965 after listening to the game on the radio. I was 9 at the time! All our losses since I've been in a kind of grieving shock. I flew down in 09 from the UK, arrived morning of the game, and went to the game jet-lagged. Felt terrible after the game with a combination of things.
I must admit it took quite some time to get over those 09/10 losses. We were never favourites in either year though. Neither Premiership was a given, but we should have nailed that 09 flag. Goes in with the 71 and 97 GF's being ahead at three quarter time. Oh, the pain!!
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We all ponder what might have been in the 71 Grand Final, it took us 26 years to get back to a grand Final to get the chance to redeem, but, again, we weren't up to it.
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