2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

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Re: 2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

Post: # 1499843Post gringo »

suss wrote:
SemperFidelis wrote:
Munga wrote:Out of all the top draft prospects and trade whispers, Jaksch is the one I'm most bullish about. Quality tall, good kick.

GWS took him with our pick 12 in the 2012 draft. The Tom Lee trade.

Serendipity?
Stupidity. Close.

Why is it stupid to have chosen Lee who has played more games than Jaksche? Jaksche might not end up being as good anyway. Right now we have Lee and we may even end up with Jaksche from the PSD why was it was stupidity?


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Post: # 1499844Post SemperFidelis »

Some further thoughts from Emma Quayle on the top picks, in the context of considering whether the Pies should match any offer for Darcy Moore under the father son rules.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... 0h86f.html


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Post: # 1499932Post suss »

gringo wrote:
suss wrote:
SemperFidelis wrote:
Munga wrote:Out of all the top draft prospects and trade whispers, Jaksch is the one I'm most bullish about. Quality tall, good kick.

GWS took him with our pick 12 in the 2012 draft. The Tom Lee trade.

Serendipity?
Stupidity. Close.

Why is it stupid to have chosen Lee who has played more games than Jaksche? Jaksche might not end up being as good anyway. Right now we have Lee and we may even end up with Jaksche from the PSD why was it was stupidity?
You know how I feel about Lee! Lee might've played more games now but he's 23. Jaksche will be 10 times the player Lee will ever be.


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Post: # 1500038Post WinnersOnly »

Suss I think people are too quick to write off Tom LEE.

When he arrived obviously his fitness was not up standard, but then he had his injury concerns which are hardly conducive to improving your fitness levels. The club obviously think he has something to offer, I suggest he is worth waiting to see how he goes when he is %100 fit until we make statements like that regarding Jaksche.


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Post: # 1500616Post Con Gorozidis »

I have never been on this website before - but looking at their predictions from last years draft and how it actually panned out in the season - they seriously know their stuff. Especially look at what they had to say about Lewis Taylor before the season started.

http://www.scpaige.com.au/phantom-draft ... r-edition/
http://www.scpaige.com.au/2013-national-draft-verdict/

So Ill be looking fwd to their 2014 edition.


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Post: # 1500625Post Old Mate »

Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.


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Post: # 1500626Post Con Gorozidis »

Old Mate wrote:Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.
pretty impressive.... thats a lot of footy to watch.


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Post: # 1500628Post Old Mate »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.
pretty impressive.... thats a lot of footy to watch.
She's a Pies supporter but junior footy is her thing. She would watch more junior footy than AFL.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.
pretty impressive.... thats a lot of footy to watch.

Check out Bound for Glory News. From memory that is where her latest Phantom and profiles are.


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Wigsy wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.
pretty impressive.... thats a lot of footy to watch.

Check out Bound for Glory News. From memory that is where her latest Phantom and profiles are.
Here's a link to her latest

http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-card ... draft-4-0/


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Post: # 1500646Post Con Gorozidis »

sax wrote:
Wigsy wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Con, Paige knows her stuff. She watches a lot of live TAC footy and speaks to a lot of club recruiters.
pretty impressive.... thats a lot of footy to watch.

Check out Bound for Glory News. From memory that is where her latest Phantom and profiles are.
Here's a link to her latest

http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-card ... draft-4-0/
Wowee.
Going on that we have to take Petracca. I personally have absolutely no idea - but this lady sure seems to knows what shes talking about and I certainly aint going to argue.


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Post: # 1500647Post FQF »

Her phantom draft is very intriguing. She has McCartin and Wright taken at 4 and 5 which no one would have believed a few months ago. Although, a similar thing happened to Aish last year when he slid way further than expected.

She also seems to imply that she has knowledge that St Kilda would take McKenzie at 21.

Very interesting all round... you get the feeling that anywhere between 1 and 5 is a gamble.


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Anyone heard more about Cam O'Shea from Port?


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SaintWodonga wrote:Anyone heard more about Cam O'Shea from Port?
He's contracted and about to play in a preliminary final. The rumour was BS.


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Heard a whisper (Damien Barrett) that GWS were thinking about packaging up Jaksch, O'Rouke. If they were prepared to do this would we consider giving them pick 1 and something else in return. I think they'd want a lot more for that deal but could we be tempted to broker a deal!?


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Kernal75 wrote:Heard a whisper (Damien Barrett) that GWS were thinking about packaging up Jaksch, O'Rouke. If they were prepared to do this would we consider giving them pick 1 and something else in return. I think they'd want a lot more for that deal but could we be tempted to broker a deal!?
Jaksch and O'Rourke for pick 1? No chance we take that deal. GWS would in a heartbeat. I'm hoping you meant to include pick 3 as part of the deal? Jaksch, O'Rourke and 3 for 1? I would do that deal.


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Post: # 1501091Post Ghost Like »

I notice Paige has Capiron at Pick 51, if he slipped that low I would take him with our 3rd pick in a heartbeat. Composed, a good leader, a decent size with silky skills, will push into the midfield easily once his body grows, otherwise an excellent young defender with great decision making skills and courage.


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Post: # 1501094Post Old Mate »

Ghost Like wrote:I notice Paige has Capiron at Pick 51, if he slipped that low I would take him with our 3rd pick in a heartbeat. Composed, a good leader, a decent size with silky skills, will push into the midfield easily once his body grows, otherwise an excellent young defender with great decision making skills and courage.
And he spent a bit of the pre-season training with us.


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Post: # 1501103Post Ghost Like »

That's good to hear, his family are all passionate Saint supporters except for one.


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Post: # 1501139Post fugazi »

We should just take Petracca instead of some complicated risky combination of picks....its not like we're rising up the ladder anytime soon, get the best available

Confident that of our kids Billings and Dunstan could be elite, maybe Acres. Add Petracca and we start to have the next generation of star power.


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Post: # 1501147Post remboy »

fugazi wrote:We should just take Petracca instead of some complicated risky combination of picks....its not like we're rising up the ladder anytime soon, get the best available

Confident that of our kids Billings and Dunstan could be elite, maybe Acres. Add Petracca and we start to have the next generation of star power.
Agree. When you think that Steven and Armitage will be around when these kids come good our midfield is starting to take shape.


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Reported on the Saints forum at BF that Saints are into Liam Jones :shock: :shock: :shock:


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Post: # 1501160Post MC Gusto »

Gut tells me pick 1 will get traded and it will likely be gws as they are able to offer up the best deal.

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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Reported on the Saints forum at BF that Saints are into Liam Jones :shock: :shock: :shock:

Is it possible that they are trying to do something similar to last years effort where we let McEvoy go because we knew we could replace him with Longer and then come out in front on all the draft picks swaps on the way through?

Just wondering (if there's any truth in it) if they may be looking at offloading Stanley and picking up Jones as a stright swap and trying to come out in front at the end on the draft pick side of things??


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Post: # 1501167Post plugger66 »

True Believer wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:Reported on the Saints forum at BF that Saints are into Liam Jones :shock: :shock: :shock:

Is it possible that they are trying to do something similar to last years effort where we let McEvoy go because we knew we could replace him with Longer and then come out in front on all the draft picks swaps on the way through?

Just wondering (if there's any truth in it) if they may be looking at offloading Stanley and picking up Jones as a stright swap and trying to come out in front at the end on the draft pick side of things??

The problem with that is Jones is no good and he cant ruck so who is the second ruckman?


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