Ross Lyon after today

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Re: Ross Lyon after today

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freo are likely to emulate the saints in '97, undone by injuries. nothing Lyon can do about that!


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Johnny Member wrote:
I haven't compared lists at all. Not sure how you deduced that.

From what I gathered from Lyon's '4 year apprenticeship' comment (and I could be wrong because as I said I was puzzled by it) you don't get a game, or at best you don't get a regular game unless you've completed your 4 year apprenticeship.

So in our case, and quite a few other clubs' cases if the 4 year apprenticeship was in place, we'd hardly be able to field a team!
This is where I take it you are directly comparing Lyon making a comment on a list in 2009 cherry ripe for a tilt at the flag and our current list.

It would be literally impossible to apply this so called 4 year apprenticeship to a list like ours.

Anyway it is a moot point. L:yon is not the coach of our current list so there is no answer to how he would coach. Maybe you are suggesting he would only field a 10 player team from our current list?

I would think that Lyons approach may be different with a different list to the one he had in 2009/10, but who knows. Plugger66 did indicate that he did bring in a number of young players in 2011, but it was all too hard for him and he jumped to another list ripe to challenge.

Always has been my biggest criticism of Lyon that he has never developed a list, and if he fails at Freo, I would think the footy industry would be very wary of giving him another go, especially if Freo's list is left in as bad a state as ours was.

Johnny Member wrote:What would he do at Gold Coast??
Mot sure, but after another season in 2015 he may want them for 2016
Johnny Member wrote:Or was your sarcastic reply suggesting that the 4 year apprenticeship would only apply to lists that are premiership contenders? If so, what do you base that on? Because I've never heard Lyon clarify what he meant.
Sorry if you thought it was sarcastic JM, I thought it was pretty obvious that the so called apprenticeship would be different depending on the list. Didn't he mention that 5 + years ago? Football changes a lot in 5 years, maybe his views are different now and with a younger list he may modify his views.

Evidence suggests that he was modifying them in 2011 with the St.Kilda list.


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Freo's list will never be in as a bad a state as ours as they have Chris Bond, as head of recruiting and from what i heard they don't let ross take over the recruiting of kids.


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saintly wrote:Freo's list will never be in as a bad a state as ours as they have Chris Bond, as head of recruiting and from what i heard they don't let ross take over the recruiting of kids.

He has done well with guys like Tabener, Neale, Walters and Fyfe who have all come in and played regular footy in Ross' time. They have Tanner Smith and Apeness still to come in who are decent picks and if given development should take over a couple of spots that retirements should take up. We didn't seem to have any kind of plan.


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gringo wrote:
saintly wrote:Freo's list will never be in as a bad a state as ours as they have Chris Bond, as head of recruiting and from what i heard they don't let ross take over the recruiting of kids.

He has done well with guys like Tabener, Neale, Walters and Fyfe who have all come in and played regular footy in Ross' time. They have Tanner Smith and Apeness still to come in who are decent picks and if given development should take over a couple of spots that retirements should take up. We didn't seem to have any kind of plan.
+1, could add Sheridan & Crozier to that list aswell.


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Only on the good ship Saintsational would you have an 18 page thread about a coach that left three years ago.........

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True Believer wrote:Only on the good ship Saintsational would you have an 18 page thread about a coach that left three years ago.........

Are there many on here that stalk ex-girlfriends??
Wouldn't be hard to imagine that a few would



...but hey...it's a great thread afaik.....anyone willing to deliver a kick to the guts to lyin has my support.....stalker or not


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True Believer wrote:Only on the good ship Saintsational would you have an 18 page thread about a coach that left three years ago.........

Are there many on here that stalk ex-girlfriends??
Does Jason Gram post on here?


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Speaking of coaches and media hype.
whatever happened to dean laidley?

The media pumped up his tyres at one stage but the guy is/was an idiot.


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Scollop wrote:Don't worry Luke Darcy and a lot of commentators love Rossy and don't forget Robert Walls. I think he was the first and probably the instigator of the legend of Lyon

There are increasing voices doubting the legend of Lyon. The soundcloud isn't working atm, but when they fix it, have a listen to today's discussion on SEN (should be updated later today - usually takes a while);

https://soundcloud.com/sen1116/pure-foo ... vid-king-2
Working atm. Go to the last 8 or 9 minutes of the show. 2 commentators going for Lyon and 2 would prefer Hinkley as coach in a GF even though Ken hasn't coached Port into a GF. Says a lot about the fact that getting there doesn't mean jack in the end if you can't inspire your team to get over the line.

The conversations regarding Lyon are now justifiably balanced and it's not only 'the bubble' or 'in the messiah we trust'. The vast majority of Saints supporters not only swallowed every single word of Lyonspeak but they had mantras to ward off evil spirits and heretics....


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Typical Lyon. Total domination but still only four goals up.


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f*** i how port actually decided to play in the second half
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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Typical Lyon. Total domination but still only four goals up.
And they will enviatebly win by 4 or 5 goals after a nil all draw in the last half.


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Hack Dawson on report and only 11 points down now.

Go Port!


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How frustrated would you be if you were a freo supporter. 4 points the difference.


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cmon power


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Hmmmm.

Port run out a game well too


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zac having given away 2 pivotal frees. Oh, and reported too.


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great qtr Port


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STFU you purple hazed fans. Your team screwed up that term and hopefully Freo is done.

Fingers crossed!


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Garrick Ibbotson dislocated shoulder. Noice


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Typical Lyon. Total domination but still only four goals up.
How familiar is that!
Ro$$ Lyin crap game plan.
Should have been 6 goals up at half time.

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Typical Lyon finals performance.
Can't score 90. Cant win.


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Johnny Member. YOU tipped this.
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