Ross Lyon after today

[Con Gorozidis]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

[dragit]

Some very dubious frees given to the swans in the parts I watched.

Be some happy campers here though I guess.

[matrix]

yup
im pretty happy

[Bunk_Moreland]

Sucked in Lyon, choker.

Always said he was s***

[SainterK]

Curious, what's the average score in finals of Ross Lyon coached sides?

[matrix]

and even cant remember what the first year was that he coached us

[stinger]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

Don't agree. They were never going to win....don't kick enough goals. Freo would have had to kick 8 goals in the last quarter to win. Swine were always in control. Face it lyin is a loser. And I love it. Creep that he is.

[Johnny Member]

69 points in a final simply isn't good enough.

It wasn't in 2009, and still isn't.


I heard that Freo has had 1 Riding Star nomination in the 3 years that Lyon has been there. How many did we have out of curiosity?

[whiskers3614]

yup
im pretty happy

Pretty hard to get another GF choke when they have to beat Hawks to get there.
I'll have to barrack for Freo next 2 weeks, as a straight sets exit wouldn't be as satisfying as a GF loss!

[The Fireman]

If he had only got us that cup....the luv would be so much different.

[matrix]

saints
61
106
64
80
60
68
83
88
68
52
57
av 71.5


freo
96
71
87
99
62
69
av 80.6

think ive done that right
ive had a couple of ciders

[Con Gorozidis]

69 points in a final simply isn't good enough.

It wasn't in 2009, and still isn't.


I heard that Freo has had 1 Riding Star nomination in the 3 years that Lyon has been there. How many did we have out of curiosity?

I think we only had 1 or 2 in his 5 years with us which is ridiculously low.

[Con Gorozidis]

If he had only got us that cup....the luv would be so much different.

If I only I was banging a model on my own yacht right now.

'If only' I have had done this. 'If only' I hadnt done that.

The world is full of 'if onlys'

[borderbarry]

A model what? Aeroplane, ship?

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? Freo will crush Port/Rich next week and might surprise the Hawks in the PF, just as the Dogs almost beat us in 2009. Swans v Freo in the GF, who can say what might happen?

[whiskers3614]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

John Northey and Rodney Eade both coached for 14 years without a flag.
Both were multiple premiership winning players!
There are/were another 6 coaches who have coached in more games than Lyon, but I'm sure if Fremantle is patient he will pass them all!

[Con Gorozidis]

A model what? Aeroplane, ship?

[Griggsy]

[stinger]

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? Freo will crush Port/Rich next week and might surprise the Hawks in the PF, just as the Dogs almost beat us in 2009. Swans v Freo in the GF, who can say what might happen?

Not sure about that.."both port and the tigers are capable of doing the shockers over...they don't kick enough goals....Lyons curse....

[Con Gorozidis]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

John Northey and Rodney Eade both coached for 14 years without a flag.
Both were multiple premiership winning players!
There are/were another 6 coaches who have coached in more games than Lyon, but I'm sure if Fremantle is patient he will pass them all!

Good get whiskers with Eade and Northey - I hadn't realised they had coached that long.

I cant see Freo getting back up anytime soon - McPharlin and Johnson are almost gone. Pav and Sandi almost gone. Mundy getting on. Thats 5 A grade players they will need to replace. Almost impossible to do.

His only hope is to piss off from Freo at the end of next year and then get to another club with a good young list.

Wont be easy for him from here. BUT - the Gold Coast Suns job might be free in 2016.... that could get him a flag.....

If not the Dogs in 2016 might be a job for him as well...

[Bluthy]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

Don't agree. They were never going to win....don't kick enough goals. Freo would have had to kick 8 goals in the last quarter to win. Swine were always in control. Face it lyin is a loser. And I love it. Creep that he is.

Yep. Everyone saying they have increased their attack but only when they are flat track bullies -just like we were. In big games straight back to the shut down footy. The parallels to us under Lyon are scary - fantastically tough and committed with a strong structure so are never really out of it. But have poor ability to link up with good kicking due to so many average skilled players. They can't get any easy crisp goals with clean ball movement and every goal is hard work which must be exhausting for the players. And they just bomb it into their 50 more often than not rather than being able to hit up targets like the other 3 top teams do. And what young player has Lyon developed at his time at the club? That Morabito was meant to be a gun.

[oh when the]

Bobby Rose coached without GF success.

[Life Long Saint]

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? Freo will crush Port/Rich next week and might surprise the Hawks in the PF, just as the Dogs almost beat us in 2009. Swans v Freo in the GF, who can say what might happen?

Not sure about that.."both port and the tigers are capable of doing the shockers over...they don't kick enough goals....Lyons curse....

There is no surer bet in AFL than the beaten Qualifying finalist defeating the winning Elimination final winner.
Check the records...I think it's only ever happened twice since 2001!

Hard to see anyone defeating the Hawks and Swans in the preliminary finals.

[Con Gorozidis]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

Don't agree. They were never going to win....don't kick enough goals. Freo would have had to kick 8 goals in the last quarter to win. Swine were always in control. Face it lyin is a loser. And I love it. Creep that he is.

Yep. Everyone saying they have increased their attack but only when they are flat track bullies -just like we were. In big games straight back to the shut down footy. The parallels to us under Lyon are scary - fantastically tough and committed with a strong structure so are never really out of it. But have poor ability to link up with good kicking due to so many average skilled players. They can't get any easy crisp goals with clean ball movement and every goal is hard work which must be exhausting for the players. And they just bomb it into their 50 more often than not rather than being able to hit up targets like the other 3 top teams do. And what young player has Lyon developed at his time at the club? That Morabito was meant to be a gun.

Agree the parallels are startling. Very similar. Tough as nails, desperate in defence and always in the game - but just don't have the disposal and skills to really get on top of a good side. Even when we were really good - we hardly ever got an easy goal from precise kicking and running play. They were all hard earnt.

I guess Lauchie Neale is a good little player (in the Lyon mould) and you could say Fyfe has developed under him but Fyfe would be good anywhere under any coach.

RL isnt developing enough players and will leave them in a not much better position than he left us in.

But if GC under-perform next year - who knows Lyon might get handed a flag at the GC. Not impossible I guess...

[whiskers3614]

Well hes been bloody unlucky - but I cant see Ross Lyon ever winning a flag now.

Has any coach ever coached 10 years+ without a flag?

Frees 17-7 in Swans favour. Just a joke.

Replace Taverner with McPharlin or Johnson - Freo win .

John Northey and Rodney Eade both coached for 14 years without a flag.
Both were multiple premiership winning players!
There are/were another 6 coaches who have coached in more games than Lyon, but I'm sure if Fremantle is patient he will pass them all!

Good get whiskers with Eade and Northey - I hadn't realised they had coached that long.

I cant see Freo getting back up anytime soon - McPharlin and Johnson are almost gone. Pav and Sandi almost gone. Mundy getting on. Thats 5 A grade players they will need to replace. Almost impossible to do.

His only hope is to piss off from Freo at the end of next year and then get to another club with a good young list.

Wont be easy for him from here. BUT - the Gold Coast Suns job might be free in 2016.... that could get him a flag.....

If not the Dogs in 2016 might be a job for him as well...

Surely people will wake up to him soon, as they eventually did to that other snake oil salesman Wallace?

Surely