Eli has nerve damage!
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Eli has nerve damage!
Article on saints website says he's back in full training next week and the nerve damage should pass.
It better otherwise he's cactus.
Big risk promoting him to the senior list IMO given this, unless of course it clears up over the next few months.
It better otherwise he's cactus.
Big risk promoting him to the senior list IMO given this, unless of course it clears up over the next few months.
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I'm not a doctor but I assume nerve damage is a very dangerous thing to be playing with & Eli's short term future is in question until it fully heals.
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Re: Eli has nerve damage!
Depends which nerves are damaged, but mostly it's no big deal.
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Re: Eli has nerve damage!
The nerve damaged would be to the radial nerve which wraps around the humerus (upper arm bone) and is often damaged with spiral fractures of this kind because it basically follows the surface if the bone and can get cut, squashed partially severed or just irritated at the point of fracture by the edge of the bone fragment...it can also be damaged or irritated in the surgical fixation of the fracture, as the article explained, there's a crapload of hardware that is needed to stabilise this sort of break and being so close to the nerve if can be collateral damage sometimes! Given he's back at training, the ongoing issues would be fairly minimal I would imagine, because if severe, you have a limp wrist and finger straightening muscles as well as weakened elbow straighteners, so severe damage is unlikely. One concer would be or going irritation from scar tissue or from the implanted steel hardware...only time will tell if that resolves completely...another concern would be the risk of re-injury at a mechanical weak spot...given Eli's age and conservative approach by the team medics, it's likely they want to give the bone as long as possible to remodel around the hardware and develop maximum strength before serious contact work, as the article said its a rare footy injury, more commonly a high velocity trauma in young people or a fall in older people, so I think everyone will be a bit unsure hoe it will go long term...fingers are crossed!!
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Not good news.
I had a serious bike crash when I was 13 at a school camp, I broke my arm in to places, broke the shoulder joint, dislocated a shoulder and hyperextended an elbow and 11 years later I am still suffering for it.
The bone close to my wrist healed crooked because the teachers refused to take me to the hospital after several request, I've had to have a few shoulder operations including a shoulder reco and it is looking like an elbow operation is on the cards.
The worst part though is the nerve pain in my shoulder, it is mind numbing pain to the point where I once lost consciousness.
Fingers crossed Eli can get over his because they can become permanent impairments without proper treatment.
I had a serious bike crash when I was 13 at a school camp, I broke my arm in to places, broke the shoulder joint, dislocated a shoulder and hyperextended an elbow and 11 years later I am still suffering for it.
The bone close to my wrist healed crooked because the teachers refused to take me to the hospital after several request, I've had to have a few shoulder operations including a shoulder reco and it is looking like an elbow operation is on the cards.
The worst part though is the nerve pain in my shoulder, it is mind numbing pain to the point where I once lost consciousness.
Fingers crossed Eli can get over his because they can become permanent impairments without proper treatment.
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Re: Eli has nerve damage!
I posted this not long after Eli did his injury in an earlier thread...doc larkins look out!!""
Breaking the humerus is a really bad injury, very unusual from a rotation/twisting type mechanism in footy, more common in oldies. The wierd force and angle that went through to break a young mans arm must have been very unique. Looking at the slomo, it looked like a dislocation of the shoulder may have been more likely...without knowing exactly where the fracture occured. The club have been very vague on detail, i haven't been able to find anywhere as to which part of the humerus was fractured and wheather there was any soft tissue injury at either the shoulder of elbow, but for it to require surgery, the fracture must have been relatively unstable (bad) and looking at the mechanism of injury, it could have caused a spiral type fracture which again would probably lengthen recovery time...I would think absolute best case 3 months, worst 6 months with lots of complications to elbow and or shoulder...UNfortunately, it'll also limit his ability to really streangth that arm (Left) for quite some time...but hopefully it's stable enough with fixation that he can be cycling on a stationary cycle and then running at about the 6-8week mark. Would love some details if anyone is in the know.""
Breaking the humerus is a really bad injury, very unusual from a rotation/twisting type mechanism in footy, more common in oldies. The wierd force and angle that went through to break a young mans arm must have been very unique. Looking at the slomo, it looked like a dislocation of the shoulder may have been more likely...without knowing exactly where the fracture occured. The club have been very vague on detail, i haven't been able to find anywhere as to which part of the humerus was fractured and wheather there was any soft tissue injury at either the shoulder of elbow, but for it to require surgery, the fracture must have been relatively unstable (bad) and looking at the mechanism of injury, it could have caused a spiral type fracture which again would probably lengthen recovery time...I would think absolute best case 3 months, worst 6 months with lots of complications to elbow and or shoulder...UNfortunately, it'll also limit his ability to really streangth that arm (Left) for quite some time...but hopefully it's stable enough with fixation that he can be cycling on a stationary cycle and then running at about the 6-8week mark. Would love some details if anyone is in the know.""
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Are you a doctor?saintspremiers wrote: Big risk promoting him to the senior list IMO given this, unless of course it clears up over the next few months.
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YesBunk_Moreland wrote:Are you a doctor?saintspremiers wrote: Big risk promoting him to the senior list IMO given this, unless of course it clears up over the next few months.
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saintspremiers wrote:YesBunk_Moreland wrote:Are you a doctor?saintspremiers wrote: Big risk promoting him to the senior list IMO given this, unless of course it clears up over the next few months.
Quite so, I've seen your van
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You tell 'em, Doc!... Damn fraudsters!
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Re: Eli has nerve damage!
Worrisome news.
Saints drs dont have the best track record atm.
'Gilbo - yeah great healer. No worries hell be back in two weeks. Err umm ok. s***. Make that 12 weeks.'
Saints drs dont have the best track record atm.
'Gilbo - yeah great healer. No worries hell be back in two weeks. Err umm ok. s***. Make that 12 weeks.'
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Worrisome news.
Saints drs dont have the best track record atm.
'Gilbo - yeah great healer. No worries hell be back in two weeks. Err umm ok. s***. Make that 12 weeks.'
Pretty sure most if not all clubs make mistakes with players. reckon the Hawks have giot Rioli wrong a few times. People do realise nerve damage can certainly repair itself. If you have ever cut yourself badly the area can be numb for ages because of nerve damage but then repairs itself. I would suggest that there wouldnt be much to worry about.
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I don't know if you're qualified to make this comment... Are you a journalist?Con Gorozidis wrote:Worrisome news.