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Get rid of Runners

Post: # 1469857Post Bluthy »

We copped a free against us because of our runner last weekend. I can't believe the runner in the Cats/Blues game who smashed into the carlton player at the stoppage with only seconds to play didn't give away a free because the umpire hadn't started play. Players come off the ground every 8 minutes and can get instructions then. Runners are instructed to fill in space and its annoying as hell when we complain the game is getting ridiculously congested. There is no other game in the world that has non-players on the ground all the time. Imagine if a grand final gets decided by a runner giving away a free - it will be a tragedy. It's time to do away with those annoying, space sucking, ex-player runners who still want to influence play. If players have to try and work out for themselves what to do out on the field that they are getting paid hundred and thousands of dollars each year to do - that's a good thing! :evil:


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Post: # 1469861Post Sainternist »

Who was that former player runner in the 90s who flew up with a pack to contest a mark? That was classic.


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Post: # 1469874Post plugger66 »

Like it. makes it different to other games. If they didnt have one then the trainers and Doctors would just pass on more messges as Im sure they do anyway.


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Post: # 1469875Post Jacks Back »

Get rid of them. Even though they are currently wearing pink I've noticed some players wearing the all white away jumpers are actually kicking the ball to them thinking their one of their players.


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Bluthy wrote:We copped a free against us because of our runner last weekend. I can't believe the runner in the Cats/Blues game who smashed into the carlton player at the stoppage with only seconds to play didn't give away a free because the umpire hadn't started play. Players come off the ground every 8 minutes and can get instructions then. Runners are instructed to fill in space and its annoying as hell when we complain the game is getting ridiculously congested. There is no other game in the world that has non-players on the ground all the time. Imagine if a grand final gets decided by a runner giving away a free - it will be a tragedy. It's time to do away with those annoying, space sucking, ex-player runners who still want to influence play. If players have to try and work out for themselves what to do out on the field that they are getting paid hundred and thousands of dollars each year to do - that's a good thing! :evil:
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Post: # 1469892Post magnifisaint »

Don't like runners either. When you think about it, it looks stupid.


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Yes!!! Always wear long stops!


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Post: # 1469935Post Sainternist »

Whilst we're at it, let's bring back the white coats and white pork pie hats for the goal umpires. I'm actually serious about this one. An iconic look of the game which has been sadly missing.

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Post: # 1469942Post Con Gorozidis »

Runners are kind of part of the game culture - but agree we need to regulate their behaviour.
The 4th umpire or whoever it is sitting on the sidelines should be policing it.
That Freo guy a few weeks ago running into gaps like he was Rob Eddy was like a 19th man. Just ridiculous.
If it was the 90s someone like Plugger or Gary Ablett would purposely line one up to teach them a lesson.


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Post: # 1469945Post dragit »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Runners are kind of part of the game culture - but agree we need to regulate their behaviour.
The 4th umpire or whoever it is sitting on the sidelines should be policing it.
That Freo guy a few weeks ago running into gaps like he was Rob Eddy was like a 19th man. Just ridiculous.
If it was the 90s someone like Plugger or Gary Ablett would purposely line one up to teach them a lesson.
Is that rosco's old mate that we used to have? The one that was always giving away frees?

The only reason I think a runner should be going out is to tell a player that he needs to come off… The coaching messages can be delivered in the intervals.


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Sainternist wrote:Whilst we're at it, let's bring back the white coats and white pork pie hats for the goal umpires. I'm actually serious about this one. An iconic look of the game which has been sadly missing.

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I totally agree with this.

Because of the stupid umpiring department not wanting to be called white maggots and because of this stupid rule that clubs have to wear away jumpers (mostly white) the umpires and goal umpires have gone away from the white outfits and it's a real shame - especially with the goal umpires.

I also think all goal umpires should wear moustaches during retro round (even the ladies). This part is only tongue in cheek though.


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Post: # 1470061Post BigMart »

Agreed. At League level... Given the planning and expected onfield leadership level.

They should be obsolete


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Thats the 3rd free kick this year from that same runner!

I remember him at the preseason game at Wagga he had no idea...he didnt know the players or what positions they were and ran around like a 'headless chook'! You can only imagine the quality of messages he is delivering to the players?


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Post: # 1470076Post whiskers3614 »

WinnersOnly wrote:Thats the 3rd free kick this year from that same runner!

I remember him at the preseason game at Wagga he had no idea...he didnt know the players or what positions they were and ran around like a 'headless chook'! You can only imagine the quality of messages he is delivering to the players?
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Post: # 1470105Post mr six o'clock »

I think runners are necessary .
However i think they should have certain limitations on them .
They should not be allowed on until the 5 minute mark of each quarter
and they should have only 1 minute to deliver there message . failure to do so means they have to wait a further minute to be able to deliver there next message .


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Post: # 1470110Post BigMart »

Great more rules to police... Something the league does well?!

Get rid of them, onfield leadership would have to step up.


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Post: # 1470157Post Cairnsman »

I reckon the more non-players they can get off the ground the better the viewing spectacle will be on TV and would probably also improve the vision when watching the game at ground.


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Post: # 1470269Post Bluthy »

Cairnsman wrote:I reckon the more non-players they can get off the ground the better the viewing spectacle will be on TV and would probably also improve the vision when watching the game at ground.
Exactly. With the scrums and congestion its hard enough to see which player is doing what without someone in pink running around hogging space. It would also take away from the coaches control which I think is a good thing. It may give experienced teams an advantage, but conversely it encourages players in developing teams to work things out for themselves and will actually benefit them more down the track. Do we need the water people? You can't wait 20 mins for a drink of water or during your 7 min rotation?


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Post: # 1470410Post ctqs »

If they were serious about limiting the use of runners, they should make it so that teams can only have 18 people on the field at any time the ball is in play. So if a runner is on the field, there can only be 17 players.


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Post: # 1470432Post Bernard Shakey »

With the number of rotations these days, runners are not required at all. Players can relay messages, as they have done for over 100 years!


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Post: # 1470565Post Scollop »

Neil Balme was on KB's show on SEN in his regular spot on a Friday. He highlighted current rules for runners, he vigorously defended Nigel Lappin's reputation as a fair player and that what happened against Carlton was an accidental indiscretion and Nigel wasn't looking to intentionally block anyone. When asked about whether we need or should retain runners Balmy said; "my personal view is that I think we should get rid of 'em!!"


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