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saintspremiers wrote:I don't mind it. Might help Wilkesy get motivated to mark a few. His crashing and clearing of packs is useful and he won't be dropped for now.
In other words, you were part of the Bronx cheer squad?
No I wasn't.
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
LTN16 wrote:It's up to beau himself to stop the Bronx cheers from happening. Simply take those easy marks and not miss the kicks to teammates that are 10m away..
Blame the victim and not the attacker-that's the way. (Not)
LTN is right. You gotta stand up for yourself in life. Bronx cheers aren't racist abuse or degenerative heckling. Different level as JB correctly states.
Question is, why is he dropping so many marks? Is he attacking the ball much harder and faster than previously,or is it just a confidence thing? That's the real issue here.
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
was shaking my head when watching the game on foxtel, still shaking it.
some of our supporters seriously...its just so sad and disappointing
if you want to turn on our own and bronx cheer please do us all a favor and go follow the pies or the tiges where its accepted behaviour. we dont want ya!!!!
"Another storied win in Robert Harvey's career. They say he is the embodiment of their motto of strength through loyalty, and on the day he became just the tenth man to play 350 league games the saints reward him with a seemingly impossible victory."
terry smith rules wrote:I don't care what player it is, so please don't come on in reply sticking it Beau again, that is not the point. The act of bronx cheering one of our own is completely unacceptable. What are we? Richmond!
No we are St Kilda, we know the bad times and we know the good times and we stick it tough and we support our own.
The players owe us as supporters nothing. Crossing the white line in our beloved colours and trying their best is all we can ask for. We choose to support the club for many reasons and some of us put in lots of money (when we can) but that gives you no right to boo publically one of our own. It gives you the right to share the joy and pain, comment to your mates and on this forum and god forbid facebook. But to make a public example of one player is tantamount to bullying. In other words those who do it are hiding in the crowd (much like social media) and feel that gives them the protection to do it. Little insecure people everyone of them.
How do you think it would feel to be one of the playing group and hear that coming over the fence at you. Look how ugly those Melbourne supporters looked last year booing their side off.
I live in Sydney and was not there, but any suporter who bronx cheered around me would clearly no my thoughts on it.
I have enjoyed the last two weeks as much as anybody but the two examples of the bronx cheers has definitely soured my joy.
fqf
+1 Well put, disgraceful that we turn on our own.....would prefer that these idiots didn't turn up.
would prefer not to have idiots on here too, but hey...the worlds not perfect......
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"
However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
Isn't this what Abbotts' mate Senator Brandis wants to see- more uninhibited ugly crap from Australians directed towards fellow Australians who don't conform to expectations?
dragit wrote:I just like to be outraged... I'll take any opportunity to get all outraged and tutty.
I thought the Bronx cheer was probably out of order but harmless, even Maister didn't seem to care less
How would you know how Maister felt?
I am his lover. Pillowtalk
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Yelling abuse at one of our own is totally unacceptable.
But let's not get too precious.
Gee when a guy does all the hard work and then drops the simple mark (particularly when it is inside 50) I think the crowd is certainly entitled to groan in frustration.
Particularly when it is not the first time and we pay him a shyte load of dollars to hold such marks.
I also don't have a problem with ironical cheers when he finally takes a mark.
It's just a bit of Australian irony.
Let's him know that he needs to improve.
Same as when a cricketer who makes a blunder in the field stops the next simple ball and everyone cheers.
I don't see anything wrong or disrespectful in that.
Or comments like "Change your name back!" are quite funny (the first time).
Yelling abuse and insults is where I draw the line.
That isn't funny or ironic.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
On top of the fact he tries his guts out and does a lot of good hard work for the team - he seems like a genuinely likeable bloke.
I find it very frickin odd.
I mean people pay their money can do what they want -within limitations - but abusing your own side seems a crap use of your money. Surely you can find someone in the other team to abuse?
Get stuck into Devon Smith for faking (and being called Devon). Get stuck into Patton for not getting a kick. Get stuck into Toby Green or Shaw just for being knobs. Personally, I could happily spend an afternoon abusing Tom Scully. Plenty of choice there.
If he holds on those easy and gettable marks he would have had about 5 or 6 shots on goal last week and probably would have been in the top 3 or 4 players on the ground.
There was one where he was on the lead and seemed the ball bounced off him like he didn't see it.
Lets not get too sanctimonious here - we're pretty damn loyal supporters you know. Beau is probably earning $250 grand, I'm sure he can put up with 10 seconds of sarcastic clapping from a small section of the crowd who pay their hard earned that covers his salary. Out in the middle it probably just sounds like encouragement to him. When he finally marked one I started doing a sarcastic clap and caught myself - its an instinctive reaction. I know he works his ass off and never, ever shirks backing into a pack. Doesn't make it any less frustrating when he grasses virtually everything. Does he need to get his eyes checked out or something seriously?
Perhaps i'm naive but I took it more of reward for hard work...
i gave him a clap when he clunked one in the melbourne game because he kept going up for them and was unlucky enough not to be able to hang onto them...
but to his credit he kept working...
I must have missed the spirit of the cheer/jeer...
paddy wrote:Perhaps i'm naive but I took it more of reward for hard work...
i gave him a clap when he clunked one in the melbourne game because he kept going up for them and was unlucky enough not to be able to hang onto them...
but to his credit he kept working...
I must have missed the spirit of the cheer/jeer...
I think it was bit of both to be honest
there was definetly bronx cheering but I think a certain segment of the crowd appreciated the solid mark at a tough time
paddy wrote:Perhaps i'm naive but I took it more of reward for hard work...
i gave him a clap when he clunked one in the melbourne game because he kept going up for them and was unlucky enough not to be able to hang onto them...
but to his credit he kept working...
I must have missed the spirit of the cheer/jeer...
I think it was bit of both to be honest
there was definetly bronx cheering but I think a certain segment of the crowd appreciated the solid mark at a tough time
Cant agree - it was derisive both in R1 and R2
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
maybe just maybe, you never know, its possible, that the sun might have been in his eyes............................... becasue the f****** roof was open???
Bernard Shakey wrote:There is a big difference between a Bronx cheer and booing!
There was no booing, just some sarcastic cheering.
Let's face facts, the bloke's an average VFL player at best! Bring on Tom Lee!
Exactly! Some people are way too precious over this. I can remember fans would give great some of the great players in the past like Lockett a Bronx cheer if he had a bad game and finally kicked a goal when it was too little too late in the game.
Let's face it, people. Beau has been struggling and lucky to be in the team in the first place. Full forwards are meant to hold marks, not drop them 90% of the time.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Bluthy wrote:Lets not get too sanctimonious here - we're pretty damn loyal supporters you know. Beau is probably earning $250 grand, I'm sure he can put up with 10 seconds of sarcastic clapping from a small section of the crowd who pay their hard earned that covers his salary. Out in the middle it probably just sounds like encouragement to him. When he finally marked one I started doing a sarcastic clap and caught myself - its an instinctive reaction. I know he works his ass off and never, ever shirks backing into a pack. Doesn't make it any less frustrating when he grasses virtually everything. Does he need to get his eyes checked out or something seriously?
Bluthy!
Good to see you back. I haven't seen you post in a while and remember you as one of the greats!