Trading future picks

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
Siposstar#2
Club Player
Posts: 206
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 4:15pm

Trading future picks

Post: # 1443678Post Siposstar#2 »

In Richo's press conference today. The question was asked what he thought about trading future picks.
He was for it, I also believe it would be a terrific way to build the lost up quickly.
Eg. End of this year say we finish 14th we can trade our next years first pick for another teams first pick this year. Let's say 'gws' as they are already very young and can this way wait another year. Then load up with another 2 quality kids in one year. Giving the current crop of kids all time to develop some more.
And us we could get a 12 month head start on a top 10 picks development.

The afl believe it is too risky as if teams mess it up they could be screwed for years. Eg. Melbourne
So it most likely won't get approved.
Would you want us to take the risk?
I'd back our drafting on the recent couple of years drafting.


Formerly posted as magnifisaint 35
User avatar
borderbarry
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6676
Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 11:22pm
Location: Wodonga

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443689Post borderbarry »

I dont know if I am too keen on this idea. A team could do quite well out of it, or it could be a disaster. Not confident


remboy
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2131
Joined: Fri 22 Jul 2005 9:27am
Location: Rockville
Has thanked: 567 times
Been thanked: 178 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443717Post remboy »

You'd have to be pretty certain that you were getting two stars or that this years draft was better than next years.


Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one.
cwrcyn
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4241
Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
Location: earth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1390 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443740Post cwrcyn »

Fraught with danger. c**k it up and you could throw yourself into a draft death spiral


bergholt
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7356
Joined: Wed 11 Aug 2004 9:25am

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443751Post bergholt »

I agree with the AFL. Allowing clubs to trade away their future for a chance at a better present is guaranteed to end badly for someone. It undermines the whole "equalisation" principle.


falka
Club Player
Posts: 455
Joined: Sat 25 Oct 2008 6:03pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443752Post falka »

I reckon its awesome, but rule should be that you can only trade one first or second rd pick over a 2 year period, so you can't go trading next 5 years first rd picks.

To be honest, the idea of our first pick in 2015 for GWS pick this year sounds like a good plan.

As long as there are limits, it will be good.


lefty
Club Player
Posts: 1298
Joined: Tue 28 Sep 2004 8:11pm
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443756Post lefty »

Don't like it one bit, and then it does become the AFL's problem when a team sits on the bottom for 5+ years.

Stupid and fraught with danger.


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443759Post Con Gorozidis »

Surely it depends on details of the trade?

Jeremy Cameron for pick 20?

Ooh yeah :D


User avatar
Eastern
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14357
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:46pm
Location: 3132
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443779Post Eastern »

Very much HIGH RISK-HIGH REWARD stuff. If this comes in EVERY club will be trying that little bit harder to screw other clubs. My fear is that the bigger, better resourced clubs will well & truly screw the little clubs !!


NEW scarf signature (hopefully with correct spelling) will be here as soon as it arrives !!

Image
gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443799Post gringo »

cwrcyn wrote:Fraught with danger. c**k it up and you could throw yourself into a draft death spiral

You can do that with the draft too. Richmond wasted about 5 drafts recruiting duds. Swapping your first pick and a player for a high level established player could work. Say Richmond decided that Montagna would get them top 4- they give us their first rounder and a fringe developing defender like Astbury. We lose a player now but build for the future. We fast track our run back. They win now we win later.

Like anything there is an element of gambling to it. We get another Dunstan we are on top in the trade, we get Tambling we fail. Could work.


vacuous space
SS Life Member
Posts: 3465
Joined: Fri 29 Oct 2004 1:01pm
Has thanked: 91 times
Been thanked: 162 times

Re: Trading future picks

Post: # 1443890Post vacuous space »

Draft day trading and allowing teams to trade future picks would improve the draft process. Allowing teams to move up or down the draft for players they actually want rather than who's left would be better for everybody. The ability to trade out unwanted picks would allow teams to get better value. Future picks would allow the movement of picks without complicating the process with established players who have the right of refusal. Teams get players they want, players get to teams that want them most. Win/win.

The downside of greater flexibility is greater ability to screw up. I don't think that enough reason not to do it though.


Yeah nah pleasing positive
Post Reply