AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439168Post Spinner »

dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.


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Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
Yes, some handy players too I would of thought


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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SainterK wrote:
Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
Yes, some handy players too I would of thought


I wouldn't have thought the players had anything to do with it...


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439177Post whiskers3614 »

at least we wont be bottom after completion of round 1


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439178Post SainterK »

Really spinner?

That's taking the obsession a little too far ;)

Handy list.

Johnson continued AA form, fyfe brilliant, all the mids big chunky guns.


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Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
Is that multiple Premiership coach Lyon you are talking about?


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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Couldn't care less who wins this year since we're obviously not in the race.

Collingwood are definitely on the slide this year though. Come October, I reckon Nathan Buckley will be without a job.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
It takes a genius to know one….


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Post: # 1439185Post Con Gorozidis »

Lyon is a very good coach - but no 'genius'.

I want to come out and defend Freo's song. In the group-think world of AFL commentary - it is commonplace to bag their song.
To me this is close minded. It is meant to be a sea-shanty. People need to get their hand around that. As soon as people dont hear a 'catchy little ditty' they tap their feet to - then they just say 'oh its sh*t'. But I like the sea shanty concept. Its is about the old school hard labour of workers pulling and pushing in tandem on a ship. It is about hard labour and team work. It is appropriate for the port city. It has more relevance to the actual team than most other songs. They need to slow it down. But once you get the concept of what is a sea shanty is - it makes sense and is pretty good. Sadly the footy commentators are too closed minded to follow the idea.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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SainterK wrote:Really spinner?

That's taking the obsession a little too far ;)

Handy list.

Johnson continued AA form, fyfe brilliant, all the mids big chunky guns.

We can credit the list, the resources, the development and even the change in colours.

But we all know - the biggest difference made at that club is Ross Lyon.

Don't let emotions affect acknowledging this transformation.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439187Post dragit »

whiskers3614 wrote:
Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
Is that multiple Premiership coach Lyon you are talking about?
You really are sad if you still refuse to admit that he is a very good coach... Let go of the bitterness, he left us for a better job... It happens.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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1 premiership behind Tony Jewel!


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Spinner wrote:
SainterK wrote:Really spinner?

That's taking the obsession a little too far ;)

Handy list.

Johnson continued AA form, fyfe brilliant, all the mids big chunky guns.

We can credit the list, the resources, the development and even the change in colours.

But we all know - the biggest difference made at that club is Ross Lyon.

Don't let emotions affect acknowledging this transformation.
I agreed that he is a great coach.

Don't let admiration blind you to the fact he has much working in his favour.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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whiskers3614 wrote:
Spinner wrote:
dragit wrote:Absolutely slaughtering collingwood tonight... Kicking off with a lazy 300-odd percentage.

In the words of Jason Gram.... Coached by a genius.
Is that multiple Premiership coach Lyon you are talking about?

No its the coach that has Fremantle sitting on top of the ladder after an opening round away match at Etihad stadium.

Apparently not that good.

Its an easy job transforming a laughing stock of a football club into a feared, respected, consistent team that now wins on the road - In less than two years.

A coach that makes the most tangible difference to any team I have witnessed over a ten year period. The most influence, over a continually period of time.

That's why he is on the big bucks now! Without a release clause.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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SainterK wrote:
Spinner wrote:
SainterK wrote:Really spinner?

That's taking the obsession a little too far ;)

Handy list.

Johnson continued AA form, fyfe brilliant, all the mids big chunky guns.

We can credit the list, the resources, the development and even the change in colours.

But we all know - the biggest difference made at that club is Ross Lyon.

Don't let emotions affect acknowledging this transformation.
I agreed that he is a great coach.

Don't let admiration blind you to the fact he has much working in his favour.


I have every reason to be bitter like so many others.

So i wouldn't confuse 'admiration' with being able to offer an honest opinion and assessment.

The most tangible thing working in his favour. Is himself.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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May be the greatest thing working against him too, himself.

Rigid, umcompromising...

We shall see I guess.

I will watch with interest, anything else would be a lie.


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Goes well during the year
Just like Milne is a multiple GF choker
Maybe Freo should get Matthews on a 1 game contract for GF.


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whiskers3614 wrote:Goes well during the year
Just like Milne is a multiple GF choker
Maybe Freo should get Matthews on a 1 game contract for GF.


Fremantle to ever make a Grand Final?

Lol.



Is Malcolm Blight available?


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Spinner wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Goes well during the year
Just like Milne is a multiple GF choker
Maybe Freo should get Matthews on a 1 game contract for GF.


Fremantle to ever make a Grand Final?

Lol.



Is Malcolm Blight available?
Given they made the last GF in 2013 im not sure why you are 'lol'ing?


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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SainterK wrote:May be the greatest thing working against him too, himself.

Rigid, umcompromising...

We shall see I guess.

I will watch with interest, anything else would be a lie.

Agree. All the things you didnt see till he left us.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439242Post saintspremiers »

Freo are a top side with a great coach.

But I have faith in Clarkson and his mob to topple them in an absolute epic Grand Final this year.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

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Lets hope its bettet than last years "epic" GF then...couldn't be worse.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439250Post Stephen Theodore »

Bottom line is, he has transferred Freo in the space of two seasons from pretenders to contenders.

Anyone on here who can't admit he's a very good coach should remove the blinkers.


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Stephen Theodore wrote:Bottom line is, he has transferred Freo in the space of two seasons from pretenders to contenders.

Anyone on here who can't admit he's a very good coach should remove the blinkers.
He's a brilliant coach. Doesn't mean we can't see some flaws, perhaps fatal flaws on grand final day. Its the closest thing to a cult in football I've seen, with all players having ruthlessly defined roles and Ross' "bubble" where he controls what comes out of the club. But cults often explode in the end due to pent up feelings from being so regimented and dehumanised. Lyon has little concept of pacing his team throughout the year. He runs his machine at full steam all year, physically and mentally exhausting the players and then wonders why some players melt down on the most intense day of the year and tighten up like they are terrified of disapproval from the master.


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Re: AFL wants Freo to win the flag this year

Post: # 1439281Post falka »

Wow we are so bitter.

Let it go, both club and coach needed change,

It is amazing what a flag does / doesn't do.

If we kick 1 more point in 2010 decider then Magpies would be talked about as the biggest wasted club now in a rebuild and would be laughed at for sacking Mick.

We get rid of Dal, McEvoy, Goddard and we are a basket case, yet they got rid of Shaw, Thomas, Jolly, Didak, yet are awesomely rebuilding.

Lets say we won the bloody thing in 09 or 10, we would still be in the same place right now, keen to rebuild,


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