Jumper

[BringBackMadDog]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Exactly which Grand Final were we a laughing stock, surely you don't mean 1997? Anyway, I love the jumper, the saints stick figure brings back really great memories for me growing up. I think I carved it into every desk I sat in at school back in the 70's (along with the Kiss Logo).

[GrumpyOne]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

It's footy before you were born Dools. You probably won't understand. In those days we had the passion to fill Moorabbin knowing that we had only a snowball's chance in a blast furnace of winning.

Now THAT is supporting your team.

[Dr Spaceman]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Presume you've got no desire for the club to have any sort of presence back at Moorabbin then? You know; for the same reasons.

[HitTheBoundary]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.
I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

[SaintPav]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Typical Gen Y soft c@ck.

We won 5 games last year and probably won't win too many more over the next couple of seasons but don't worry, you'll get used to it.

Fortius Quo Fidelius or something like that.

[BringBackMadDog]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.
I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

Amen brother, damn i miss those days!!

[saintspremiers]

I miss the ressies.

But if they brought them back pre match all the theater goers wouldn't bother and still turn up en masse 5 minutes before bounce down.

[SainterK]

Maybe it's prophetic, the boys will be lean and athletic this year?

[satchmo]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Typical Gen Y soft c@ck.

We won 5 games last year and probably won't win too many more over the next couple of seasons but don't worry, you'll get used to it.

Fortius Quo Fidelius or something like that.

It's funny cos it's true...

[Dave McNamara]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Sooooooo glad that you asked Dools'...

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.

I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

That is what the competition was built on.

Those who do understand what HTB has so eloquently encapsulated, understand why the St Kilda Football Club is such a special and sacred institution.

This is one of the truly great posts to have graced Saintsational. Thank-you HTB.

[satchmo]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Sooooooo glad that you asked Dools'...

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.

I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

That is what the competition was built on.

Those who do understand what HTB has so eloquently encapsulated, understand why the St Kilda Football Club is such a special and sacred institution.

This is one of the truly great posts to have graced Saintsational. Thank-you HTB.

I'm inclined to agree, Dave. It says a lot about a lot of us.

[barneyboyz]

It's what Sydney, GWS, GC, Brisbane, West Coast, Freo, Adelaide and probably Port football clubs may never have.

we've earned our rite to be there, to win, or lose...whatever the case may be.

I see only 1 flag, where some of the above have several, but you can bet your last dollar, Jack's side in 66 never bought, cheated, or sold their soul for it and I'll be pleased to have died an old man (years to come) having not seen another, so long as we never do any of those things...

[plugger66]

It's what Sydney, GWS, GC, Brisbane, West Coast, Freo, Adelaide and probably Port football clubs may never have.

we've earned our rite to be there, to win, or lose...whatever the case may be.

I see only 1 flag, where some of the above have several, but you can bet your last dollar, Jack's side in 66 never bought, cheated, or sold their soul for it and I'll be pleased to have died an old man (years to come) having not seen another, so long as we never do any of those things...

Well i maybe different because im getting older but i would hope we bend as many rules as possible to win a flag. 1966 is a long time ago and apart from watching the game on TV there are no memories at all for me. I can honestly say if we cheat and dont get caught I would feel much better than being a goody two shoes and winning jack.

Just won question. Who is Jacks side in 66? Im confused.

[barneyboyz]

Sorry mate, Yabby (I was thinking of another great Aussie in Jack 'Yabby' Wells, of Rex Hunt fame).

I can't really see anything good about the cheating myself, just my opinion though

cheers

[st.byron]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Sooooooo glad that you asked Dools'...

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.

I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

That is what the competition was built on.

Those who do understand what HTB has so eloquently encapsulated, understand why the St Kilda Football Club is such a special and sacred institution.

This is one of the truly great posts to have graced Saintsational. Thank-you HTB.

Not getting so carried away myself with 'one of the truly great posts', but HTB has nailed that passion and tribalism were at the core of the game. If you've never known it, you couldn't understand. But travelling to Windy Hill, Vic Park, Princes Park, Western Oval, bloody Glenferrie, the train to Geelong - it was tribal. And you wore your jumper, scarf and beanie as part of a tribe. Same thing happens today, but it doesn't have the guts and substance it did then. The AFL and commercialism has homogenised it and there aint no going back.
And standing around from or behind the goals at Moorabbin, in the outer, on the terraces with everyone else. That was the place where the tribalism of being a Saint was strongest. There or in the Animal Enclosure.

[samuraisaint]

standing behind the goals at the Frankston end, get the whiff of a comeback and the stand behind you would really get rocking. remember the kids in the cheer squad standing up on the wooden seats behind the goals and jumping up and down on them. I remember some great games where we really surprised some teams. My favourite years at Moorabbin were 1978, 1987 because we were finally competitive again, and 1990 when we started to beat sides we hadn't beaten in years like Hawthorn.
Oh, and in the very late 1970s when the old man would buy me a Lucky Burger if I whinged long enough. Moorabbin and that stretch of the Nepean hwy, South Rd and surrounds has lost it's mojo now.

[joffaboy]

Exactly what memories does it bring back?

Sooooooo glad that you asked Dools'...

Waking up on a Saturday morning, and despite knowing we would probably lose by 10 goals, traveling across town to stand in the rain all day and support the team. Queuing at half time to stand jostling shoulder to shoulder at a urinal that stunk of piss and beer. Being surrounded by ferals at Vic Park, the Western Oval, Princess Park etc. that wanted to kill you because you were supporting your team, staying until the final siren, then navigating back through the often brawling ferals to go all the way home again, drenched and freezing, and knowing that we wouldn't be on the footy replay.
Then getting up next Saturday morning and doing it all again.

Footy was tribal back then. Standing in the same spot. Seeing the same faces.

I feel sorry for those that never experienced Moorabbin when the stand was rocking. Shivers up the spine stuff.

I'm not surprised you don't understand.

That is what the competition was built on.

Those who do understand what HTB has so eloquently encapsulated, understand why the St Kilda Football Club is such a special and sacred institution.

This is one of the truly great posts to have graced Saintsational. Thank-you HTB.

+1 to both you Dave and HTB.

Dools wouldn't have a clue. Absolutely none

[saintdooley]

I was pointing out they were not exactly the best years for our club so was interested to know why people would want to go back there. HTB that was a great reply so thank you, and it's no surprise as I wasn't born while playing at Moorabbin.
Pav, my repulsive friend. Please stop talking.
Bringbackmaddog, I was referring to 71.

[samuraisaint]

I was pointing out they were not exactly the best years for our club so was interested to know why people would want to go back there. HTB that was a great reply so thank you, and it's no surprise as I wasn't born while playing at Moorabbin.
Pav, my repulsive friend. Please stop talking.
Bringbackmaddog, I was referring to 71.

A lot of people say that 71 was one of the all time great grand finals - and certainly one of the toughest. We didn't win, but that's life.
I would love to go back in time for one day - the day we beat Fitzroy at the Junction Oval in 1983. It was a warm winters day with a hint of a sea breeze, good crowd, playing a top side. It was Lockett's first year, but the guys I remember were Alan Sidebottom and Max Crow up forward. Ex Saint Garry Sidebottom had the ball at one point when our 'Sidey' called for it, Garry handballed to his brother who took off kicking the ball back into our forward line.
In one quarter we kicked 7 goals, and they kicked 11!
Really exciting hard at it footy, goal for goal in the final quarter, until the final few minutes when we took over. Crow had a shot right at the end after the siren and missed, but we still won by under two goals. I think it was something like 23 goals to 22.

Loved the footy at the Junction Oval when we played as the away side there against the Roys. Saw George Young kick a bag there too in another high scoring victory. We always got a good turnout of Sainters in the crowd there, and the Fitzroy supporters were real diehards, getting pissed and standing on cans behind the St Kilda cheer squad which was always situated on the wing in the outer.

[1965 Saint]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

i presume you are referring to the 1971 GF? Why were we a laughing stock in that game?

[saintdooley]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

i presume you are referring to the 1971 GF? Why were we a laughing stock in that game?

Why were we not being 20 points up at 3qtr time and losing by 8 points? We kicked 2.0 v 7.3 in the last?

[joffaboy]

All the older people I've spoken with (or read on here) love it because it takes them back to the old days. Why would we want to go back there? We made 4 finals over those 20 years, one grand final where we were a laughing stock. 7 wooden spoons in 20 years. Exactly what memories does it bring back?

i presume you are referring to the 1971 GF? Why were we a laughing stock in that game?

Why were we not being 20 points up at 3qtr time and losing by 8 points? We kicked 2.0 v 7.3 in the last?

You weren't even alive. You have zero idea of the time and the feeling at the time that the 71 GF was one of the toughest and hardest GF of all time.

You are an ignorant fool. To label great players like Cowboy Neale a laughing stock just shows the lack of understanding and basic respect you hold for our club.

I find your comments disgraceful, but not unexpected

[BringBackMadDog]

I was pointing out they were not exactly the best years for our club so was interested to know why people would want to go back there. HTB that was a great reply so thank you, and it's no surprise as I wasn't born while playing at Moorabbin.
Pav, my repulsive friend. Please stop talking.
Bringbackmaddog, I was referring to 71.

71?? how were we a laughing stock? have you even watched the game? It was one of the most brutal games of footy I have watched. If you are going to make ridiculous comments, then at least back it up with some facts.

[gringo]

standing behind the goals at the Frankston end, get the whiff of a comeback and the stand behind you would really get rocking. remember the kids in the cheer squad standing up on the wooden seats behind the goals and jumping up and down on them. I remember some great games where we really surprised some teams. My favourite years at Moorabbin were 1978, 1987 because we were finally competitive again, and 1990 when we started to beat sides we hadn't beaten in years like Hawthorn.
Oh, and in the very late 1970s when the old man would buy me a Lucky Burger if I whinged long enough. Moorabbin and that stretch of the Nepean hwy, South Rd and surrounds has lost it's mojo now.

I was pretty young but I still remember the crowds rolling in down the skinny little suburban streets and the slightly sick in you guts nerves as you rocked up dragged along in the crowds. It was cold, wet and uncomfortable but it had some serious atmosphere. I remember going along to buy merchandise in 1997 and meeting Barry Hall in the car park in his hot rod HR holden, a family friend who worked in the beer caravan near the main gate who would hand me cans for about 50cents and the sore calves from standing on your toes for hours straight.

[matrix]

yeah dools

how dare you comment like that

you should be banished from the forum forever

3/10 for the jumper