crystal ball time ...

[White Winmar]

Why do you bother, citywest? Last? How predictable. Why don't you just f$&k off? If you were a clever troll, at least we could get something from your contributions. You're input is as predictable as it is pathetic.

[SaintPav]

Why do you bother, citywest? Last? How predictable. Why don't you just f$&k off? If you were a clever troll, at least we could get something from your contributions. You're input is as predictable as it is pathetic.

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[citywest]

Why do you bother, citywest? Last? How predictable. Why don't you just f$&k off? If you were a clever troll, at least we could get something from your contributions. You're input is as predictable as it is pathetic.

What is your problem. I honestly think we will finish last. Have a look at my predicted ladder and you will notice I have put a lot of thought into it. I still think the Saints are on the right track but it will be 1 more year before we start climbing the ladder.

Have a look at my signature, 2014 is 2000.

[MCG-Unit]

Cut & paste from a similar thread on the BF Saints board.....

1. Where on the 2014 ladder will St Kilda finish?
10th

2. Who do you think will be the Saints leading goal kicker in 2014?
Riewoldt

3. Who do you think will be (in the) Top 3 in the St Kilda best and fairest for 2014?
Montagna

4. Who do you think will poll the most votes for St Kilda in the 2014 Brownlow medal?
Montagna

5. Who from St Kilda do you think will receive rising star nominations?
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6. How many games do you think St Kilda will win in season 2014?
10

7. Who out of our draftees (Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Templeton and Weller) do you think will play the most football in 2014?
Dunstan

8. Who out of our trade recruits (Longer, Bruce, Savage, Delaney) do you think will play the most football in 2014?
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9 Which young player do you think will have the biggest year in 2014?
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10 Who do you think will win the 2014 AFL Premiership?
Swans

11 Who do you think will win the 2014 Brownlow medal?
Ablett

12 Who do you think will win the 2014 Coleman Medal?
Riewoldt J

[plugger66]

Why do you bother, citywest? Last? How predictable. Why don't you just f$&k off? If you were a clever troll, at least we could get something from your contributions. You're input is as predictable as it is pathetic.

What is your problem. I honestly think we will finish last. Have a look at my predicted ladder and you will notice I have put a lot of thought into it. I still think the Saints are on the right track but it will be 1 more year before we start climbing the ladder.

Have a look at my signature, 2014 is 2000.

If you had any idea about the game I dont think we could win the Brownlow and the Coleman and still finish last. Its an opinion all of this but if its uninformed it should be challenged. Most of what you write seems very uninformed.

[Cairnsman]

Ladder position at years end- 17th
Higest goal scorer - Nick R. 57
Trevor Barker medalist - Armo
Rising star nominations - Dunstan but flip a coin really
Highest brownlow vote getter - Armo


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

North Melbourne
Sydney
Fremantle
Richmond
Essendon
Carlton
Gold Coast
Adelaide

Geelong
Port Adelaide
Collingwood
Hawthorn
West Coast
Western Bulldogs
Melbourne
Greater Western Sydney
St Kilda
Brisbane Lions

[Old Mate]

Ladder position at years end- 17
Higest goal scorer - Riewoldt 52
Trevor Barker medalist - Montagna
Rising star nominations - Dunstan, Billings and Longer
Highest brownlow vote getter - Montagna

now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Hawthorn
Essendon
Sydney
N Melbourne
Geelong
Carlton
Richmond

Gold Coast
Collingwood
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
Brisbane
Bulldogs
West Coast
Melbourne
St Kilda
GWS

Flag - Fremantle
Runner up - Essendon
Brownlow - J Selwood
Colman - Buddy

[plugger66]

Ladder position at years end- 17
Higest goal scorer - Riewoldt 49
Trevor Barker medalist - Steven
Rising star nominations - Billings
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven
Flag - Freo
Brownlow - Fyffe
Coleman - Cloke

[White Winmar]

Ladder position at years end- 12
Higest goal scorer - Riewoldt 60
Trevor Barker medalist - Steven
Rising star nominees - Longer, Dunstan, Billings
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven

now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Sydney
Fremantle
Hawthorn
Richmond
Geelong
North Melbourne
Collingwood
Gold Coast

Port Adelaide
Essendon
Carlton
St. Kilda
Adelaide
Bulldogs
West Coast
GWS
Melbourne
Brisbane

Flag - Sydney
Runner up - Fremantle
Brownlow - Jack Steven
Coleman - Cameron

[saintbob]

Depressingly I hear Billy Hartung is absolutely smashing it at Hawthorn and they say he will end the career of Sewell this year and be a massive score for them. We just about had him on the payroll at Seaford. Bontempelli is absolutely creaming it at the Dogs too. I thought he might be another Andreas Everitt but looks like he's more Pendlebury mixed with Josh Kennedy.

No pressure on our new recruits but they had better be better than they are so far. That said I like the kids we got...they just had better get good quickly so I don't have to look at the Hawks recruiting and the Pies and cry a little.

Acres has a chance of actually being the best player in this draft which we will not know for another 5 or so years at least, I would've been furious if we'd taken Hartung over Acres, we don't need another midget on our list, Acres provides something we don't have much of - a tall mid with excellent athletic pedigree who can play anywhere with fantastic leadership credentials. Hartung is a fit, small runner who had issues following instructions.

If Hartung comes good, then every other team other than Essendon can kick themselves also. I'm sure plenty of teams will kick themselves when they see Every kid in the land with Templetons # on their back or Acres.

I agree, I reckon Templeton will be the real surprise packet amongst our draftees this year.

I had a good look at him a few times last year and I reckon he'll come on in leaps and bounds.

[saintdooley]

Sydney
Essendon
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Geelong
Adelaide
Carlton
WCE

Collingwood
Richmond
Bulldogs
North
GC
Port
Melbourne
Saints
Lions
GWS

[BigMart]

Ladder position. 13
B&F.... Montagna ...... Fisher ..... Steven ....... Riewoldt ..... Armitage ..... Gilbert ......Savage ..... Newnes ...... Hayes ...... Roberton
Goal kicker .... Riewoldt 50 ...... Schnieder 30....Stanley 25
Rising Stars.... Dunstan
Most Brownlow votes..... Montagna & Armitage
Most improved players.... Savage, Newnes, Ross, Longer, Delaney, Milera

[Con Gorozidis]

I can't help thinking the Pies will do a Hawks.

The Hawks won young in 2008 - then runner up in 2012 and won in 2013

I think the pies will be dangerous in the next two years.

[gringo]

Depressingly I hear Billy Hartung is absolutely smashing it at Hawthorn and they say he will end the career of Sewell this year and be a massive score for them. We just about had him on the payroll at Seaford. Bontempelli is absolutely creaming it at the Dogs too. I thought he might be another Andreas Everitt but looks like he's more Pendlebury mixed with Josh Kennedy.

No pressure on our new recruits but they had better be better than they are so far. That said I like the kids we got...they just had better get good quickly so I don't have to look at the Hawks recruiting and the Pies and cry a little.

Acres has a chance of actually being the best player in this draft which we will not know for another 5 or so years at least, I would've been furious if we'd taken Hartung over Acres, we don't need another midget on our list, Acres provides something we don't have much of - a tall mid with excellent athletic pedigree who can play anywhere with fantastic leadership credentials. Hartung is a fit, small runner who had issues following instructions.

If Hartung comes good, then every other team other than Essendon can kick themselves also. I'm sure plenty of teams will kick themselves when they see Every kid in the land with Templetons # on their back or Acres.

I agree, I reckon Templeton will be the real surprise packet amongst our draftees this year.

I had a good look at him a few times last year and I reckon he'll come on in leaps and bounds.

I like the look of Acres but the hawks did really well from a pretty average draft position. Eli looks a score. He could be the real surprise packet. I remember when they reviewed the draft the analysts said the one player they couldn't believe didn't get picked was Templeton. They said he had everything needed to make it as an AFL player and said he would def be rookied. They didn't mention any others. Colquhoun was that player last year and he was a great find.

[Beno88]

Ladder position at years end- 16th
Higest goal scorer - Nick Riewoldt (45)
Trevor Barker medalist - Sam Gilbert
Rising star nominations - 3 (Dunstan, Billings, Wright)
Highest brownlow vote getter - David Armitage


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Hawthorn
North Melbourne
Richmond
Sydney
Geelong
Port Adelaide
Essendon

Adelaide
Collingwood
Gold Coast
Carlton
Western Bulldogs
Brisbane
Melbourne
St Kilda
West Coast
GWS

Flag - Hawthorn
runner up - Fremantle
Brownlow - Daniel Hannebery
Coleman - Tex Walker
hero of the year - Tex Walker, wins the Coleman after returning from injury
villan of the year - Andrew Dimitriou, falls on his sword after another turbulant year
coach under most pressure - Mick Malthouse
headline we want to see - Saints Youngsters Blossom
headline we wish we dont see - Saints In Crisis, Again
Former Saint who will have the better season - Goddard

[bergholt]

I think the pies will be dangerous in the next two years.

What they did well last trade period is to add some solid players into their young-middle group. Jesse White (26, 71 games), Taylor Adams (20, 31 games), Tony Armstrong (24, 29 games), Pat Karnezis (21, 21 games). That adds to an already solid group that the last couple of years has really started to harden: Macaffer, Fasolo, Sinclair, Elliott, Seedsman, Keefe, Williams, Dwyer, Thomas, Kennedy, Witts, Grundy.

Makings of a strong core there. Probably 2015 before they really kick into gear but you could well be right.

[White Winmar]

Agreed, BH. Fuc$@ng pies! They have started their rebuild over the past two years. They have snared the five first round picks in the space of two years, that our own Chris Pelchen sees as vital for success. Somehow they got first round picks for donkeys like Wellingham and Dawes, but then again, good luck to them. Like most of the powerful clubs, their rebuild will take place at the bottom end of the eight, rather than at the bottom itself.

[spot on]

Flag - sydney
runner up - hawks
Brownlow - scott pendelbury
Colman - buddy
hero of the year - looks like it could be buddy too,
villan of the year - rosy lyon's negative tactics come unstuck and freo struggle or hirdy again


trevor barker medal- think steven will continue to improve and be our clear best player
highest goals- roo with 41 but improved lee with 35
rising star noms- first should be wright, think dunstan should play enough to get one and longer if he still able to get a nom
break out year- seb ross looks to have the talent hopefully in his third yeah can play every game
most browlow votes- steven

swans
hawks
north
rich
west coast
freo
coll
crows
geelong
bombers
port
gold coast
carl
dogs
brassy
saints
gws
dees

[perfectionist]

13 wins, 1 draw and 8 losses to finish 5th.

[magnifisaint]

I'm no clairvoyant but all I hope for is as many wins as possible. I don't think St.Kilda are as bad as what alot are writing on here and I reckon quite a few are hedging their bets.

[spert]

The Saints will actually surprise everyone and sneak into the eight. If Schneider can stay uninjured, and Lee has a solid season, plus the addition of Savage and the improving Curren then on average we should kick a few more goals per game than last season. I expect the Hawks and Freo will drop back a couple of rungs and Sydney will be up there again.

[WinnersOnly]

1. Where on the 2014 ladder will St Kilda finish?
10th – 12th

I don’t agree with all the doomsayers – If our midfield can find enough to remain competitive I believe we will win x 2 more games than last year.

2. Who do you think will be the Saints leading goal kicker in 2014?
Tom LEE

3. Who do you think will be (in the) Top 3 in the St Kilda best and fairest for 2014?
Stevens, Montagna & Schnieder

4. Who do you think will poll the most votes for St Kilda in the 2014 Brownlow medal?
Stevens

5. Who from St Kilda do you think will receive rising star nominations?
Longer, Markworth & Dunstan

6. How many games do you think St Kilda will win in season 2014?
10

7. Who out of our draftees (Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Templeton and Weller) do you think will play the most football in 2014?
Dunstan

8. Who out of our trade recruits (Longer, Bruce, Savage, Delaney) do you think will play the most football in 2014?
Delaney & Savage

9 Which young player do you think will have the biggest year in 2014
Markworth

10 Who do you think will win the 2014 AFL Premiership?
Swans

11 Who do you think will win the 2014 Brownlow medal?
Stevens

12 Who do you think will win the 2014 Coleman Medal?
Cloke

[plugger66]

Bloody hell its Steven. I think Robertson may also have a better year.

[MCG-Unit]

Stevens, Robertson, Curran & Simpson - Well get ready for fines or sanctions if they start unregistered players.

[White Winmar]

Simpson, eh! Didn't we get him from sector 7G?