My concern, too. I'm still hoping for Choco, a known quantity with a proven record.howlinwolf wrote:I hope it didn't come down to what we could afford.
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Chocco is the only suitable candidate imho, he would be great for the development of our kids and also in the media, our club doesnt really have any personalities anymore from board to players, we are becoming boring.
I would love to see someone thats really passionate and bit out there, bit of fire and mongrel, which i think Williams has.
Richardson doesnt seem have any profile or seem very personable and i had to google him to remember who he even was.
Dont want untried coach in the redevelopment of the club, Chocco proven great developer of kids.
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I would love to see someone thats really passionate and bit out there, bit of fire and mongrel, which i think Williams has.
Richardson doesnt seem have any profile or seem very personable and i had to google him to remember who he even was.
Dont want untried coach in the redevelopment of the club, Chocco proven great developer of kids.
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Sainternist wrote:We still won't know for sure until Monday.
TBH, I'm not very excited about the appointment of either of the two. Both are former Collingwood players. Enough said.
Why does that matter?
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It doesn't. Most people wouldn't even know Richo played for the Pies. He's hardly a favourite son.fingers wrote:Sainternist wrote:We still won't know for sure until Monday.
TBH, I'm not very excited about the appointment of either of the two. Both are former Collingwood players. Enough said.
Why does that matter?
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Despite my concerns over Allan Richardson, I have also heard on good authority that it is now his gig to lose.
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saintsRrising wrote:Interesting opinion. Why?SainterK wrote:Thissaintnick12 wrote:Will be happy if this is the case.
Don't have anything against Choco, just prefer Richardson.
Based on what, I don't know, just a preference.
...except for me, it's based on Williams being more of a gimmick IMO
I would have thought that a guy who has coached a team to an AFL Flag, and who had a sustained period at the top PLUS who has had good reviews as an assistant coach at several AFL clubs would have had at least some credibility?
Whether one thinks hew is the best person for the job is another matter, but to rate him as a gimmick???
Agree, I don't think its a gimmick factor. I've got nothing in particular against him that I can put my finger on. He's been around a long time and I've never really liked him. I'm sure I'll learn to like him a lot more if named saints coach
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I also don't think Richardson would be back in the ring unless he had an extremely good chance of getting it. To be passed over for the same job twice would not be good for the CV for an aspiring senior coach.
The suspense is killing me though.
As we know nothing really about the selection process we just have to trust the panel to make the right decision.
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Re: Richo over the line ....
If it comes down to saving some bucks....the old "pay peanuts get monkeys" comes to mind
We just got rid of 1 unknown monkey who "presented" we'll
I'd back experience as long as Williams still has the fire
I also like he has some mongrel..... some of our players need it I reckon
We just got rid of 1 unknown monkey who "presented" we'll
I'd back experience as long as Williams still has the fire
I also like he has some mongrel..... some of our players need it I reckon
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Jaxons.... where are you......Bono wrote:Despite my concerns over Allan Richardson, I have also heard on good authority that it is now his gig to lose.
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I was really pleased last time when Watters was chosen. Shows you what I know.
I would have liked Neeld also at the time but he was signed up to the dees job a day or two after Ross left. Both were a disaster as senior coaches yet at the time were clearly held as the two next best assistants in line. Unless we are involved in the process it's all just speculation.
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Nicky Dal on SEN was asked about it this arvo, he said he hopes the selection pleases the senior boys....Teflon wrote:If it comes down to saving some bucks....the old "pay peanuts get monkeys" comes to mind
We just got rid of 1 unknown monkey who "presented" we'll
I'd back experience as long as Williams still has the fire
I also like he has some mongrel..... some of our players need it I reckon
It will be what they need IMO, I think they're driving this change
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I reckon that we will all know sometime in the next 48 hours. Can anyone do a countdown clock? !!
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?SainterK wrote:Nicky Dal on SEN was asked about it this arvo, he said he hopes the selection pleases the senior boys....Teflon wrote:If it comes down to saving some bucks....the old "pay peanuts get monkeys" comes to mind
We just got rid of 1 unknown monkey who "presented" we'll
I'd back experience as long as Williams still has the fire
I also like he has some mongrel..... some of our players need it I reckon
It will be what they need IMO, I think they're driving this change
So they need Choco's experience - I agree
Senior boys on way out - look to the future . Williams is a developer would be good
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TickEastern wrote:I reckon that we will all know sometime in the next 48 hours. Can anyone do a countdown clock? !!
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Because both have absolutely no background or affinity with the club whatsoever and I can't help but feel superstitious about any former Collingwood personel joining the club. Anyway, that is only coming from a one-eyed and nostalgic point of view.fingers wrote:Sainternist wrote:We still won't know for sure until Monday.
TBH, I'm not very excited about the appointment of either of the two. Both are former Collingwood players. Enough said.
Why does that matter?
But of course at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which club a coach has played for, just so long as their intentions are to help bring newfound success for the club.
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TockEastern wrote:I reckon that we will all know sometime in the next 48 hours. Can anyone do a countdown clock? !!
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I think he is more inclined to play senior guys, like he did at port, where he kept the senior guys there content...at the expense of kids.
That's why Primus had to come in, move on a Corne, no longer guarantee games to guys like Ebert...that was the criticism of him the last couple of years
That's why Primus had to come in, move on a Corne, no longer guarantee games to guys like Ebert...that was the criticism of him the last couple of years
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In fairness he'd won flags with them.... I can understand thatSainterK wrote:I think he is more inclined to play senior guys, like he did at port, where he kept the senior guys there content...at the expense of kids.
That's why Primus had to come in, move on a Corne, no longer guarantee games to guys like Ebert...that was the criticism of him the last couple of years
Don't think either candidate has nostalgic affinity with us and that's good
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If Richardson is hired, who will we be looking at in 2 years time once he is given the flick??
Perhaps Harvey will be ready by then??... Maybe Hayes can be fast tracked straight out of retirement??..
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I'm now feeling uncomfortable about getting another Mick Malthouse protege/understudy.
Seems like they all have mental scars and feel some need to prove themselves with a tough guy act.
AR might be an awesome Asst. Being the the top dog is very different and can bring out the worst in people if they aren't cut out for it.
Seems like they all have mental scars and feel some need to prove themselves with a tough guy act.
AR might be an awesome Asst. Being the the top dog is very different and can bring out the worst in people if they aren't cut out for it.
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Yeah, and that really worked well for them, didn't it...SainterK wrote: That's why Primus had to come in, move on a Corne, no longer guarantee games to guys like Ebert...that was the criticism of him the last couple of years
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Sainternist wrote:Because both have absolutely no background or affinity with the club whatsoever and I can't help but feel superstitious about any former Collingwood personel joining the club. Anyway, that is only coming from a one-eyed and nostalgic point of view.fingers wrote:Sainternist wrote:We still won't know for sure until Monday.
TBH, I'm not very excited about the appointment of either of the two. Both are former Collingwood players. Enough said.
Why does that matter?
But of course at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which club a coach has played for, just so long as their intentions are to help bring newfound success for the club.
can anyone name one..just one..filth person who has ever come to the saints and enhanched the place......just one name please....
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Yep, absolutely...Sobraz wrote:Yeah, and that really worked well for them, didn't it...SainterK wrote: That's why Primus had to come in, move on a Corne, no longer guarantee games to guys like Ebert...that was the criticism of him the last couple of years
Primus gets zero credit for it, some of the kids he helped them secure, set them up beautifully
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To be fair Con AR never coached at Collingwood, he was development manager in 2006/07. Also when Malthouse joined Carlton last year he didn't hang around. I am quite comfortable in his appointment, like Hinkley he has done a fair apprenticeship and would suit our very young list.Con Gorozidis wrote:I'm now feeling uncomfortable about getting another Mick Malthouse protege/understudy.
Seems like they all have mental scars and feel some need to prove themselves with a tough guy act.
AR might be an awesome Asst. Being the the top dog is very different and can bring out the worst in people if they aren't cut out for it.
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As far as I know, there are none, Sting.stinger wrote:can anyone name one..just one..filth person who has ever come to the saints and enhanched the place......just one name please....
Fingers crossed that if the one of the two in question are chosen to lead us, they will be the first.
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