Is Pelchen the Mole??

[Devilhead]

Is Pelchen the primary source of innuendo and hearsay regarding SW's supposed shortcomings??

Is he Jaxon's source regading trade moves??

Is he Finey's and Caro's source regarding inner turmoil at the club??

Is the he central reason for the inner turmoil at the club??

Is he the real reason behind why the CEO, some assistants and the fitness coach left??

Will the board have the balls to sack him if it is found that he has been undermining the club and privately releasing sensitive information to suit his "my way or the highway" agenda??

Is BigMart correct in saying we should sack him??

Cloaks and Daggers

[SaintPav]

Cui bono

[magnifisaint]

Is Pelchen the primary source of innuendo and hearsay regarding SW's supposed shortcomings??

Is he Jaxon's source regading trade moves??

Is he Finey's and Caro's source regarding inner turmoil at the club??

Is the he central reason for the inner turmoil at the club??

Is he the real reason behind why the CEO, some assistants and the fitness coach left??

Will the board have the balls to sack him if it is found that he has been undermining the club and privately releasing sensitive information to suit his "my way or the highway" agenda??

Is BigMart correct in saying we should sack him??

Cloaks and Daggers

Where did Big Mart say that?

[Devilhead]

Cui bono

Primarily his own due to his ego fuelled vision which does not guarantee success

Is his dictatorial methods worth all this trouble??

[SaintPav]

Cui bono

Primarily his own due to his ego fuelled vision which does not guarantee success

Is his dictatorial methods worth all this trouble??

Is Pelchen Jaxsons?

[Devilhead]

Where did Big Mart say that?

It was a sardonic response to his continuing pessimistic and sarcastic statements

Apologies

[BigMart]

Nah, not at all....

He supported SW as senior coach and worked cohesively with him for the betterment of the footy club... No self interest, no undermining....

I actually don't have a massive issue with Pelchin (don't know him) but its his level of position that's the issue, he sees himself as the boss of the coach... Not management support...

Pelchin may well be ok in management and dealing with recruiting, staffing and resources...... But as a leader... No... He is using his (poorly appointed) position as a power trip..... And not as someone who provides support

[Dr Spaceman]

Where did Big Mart say that?

It was a sardonic response to his continuing pessimistic and sarcastic statements

Apologies

Are we bagging Dermie now.... Like Car, Finey and anyone else who has RIGHTFULLY criticised management of StK FC

Get rid of Pelchin

His power is dangerous...

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[Enrico_Misso]

I thought it was Kim Duthie?

[Devilhead]

He supported SW as senior coach and worked cohesively with him for the betterment of the footy club... No self interest, no undermining....

He is using his (poorly appointed) position as a power trip..... And not as someone who provides support

So Pelchin provides support but doesn't???

[BigMart]

As Arj Barker said

I shoulda typed the first sentance in 'sarcastica' to assist with the joke?!

[The OtherThommo]

Just hypothethically, what would happen if someone close to the club started to leak that Pelchen was the source of the anti-Watters stuff that's been flying around?

[Con Gorozidis]

Pelchen is coming across as machiavelli/bill shorten and SW is coming across as k rudd.

Right now Alistair Clarkson is Abbott and Ross Lyon is Kim Beazley.

I need an MT- someone loved by middle aged ladies and the abc set and a Julia Gillard - despised by angry men and the 2GB crowd.

Any suggestions?

I think ToT might fit the bill for MT ?

[WellardSaint]

Just hypothethically, what would happen if someone close to the club started to leak that Pelchen was the source of the anti-Watters stuff that's been flying around?

has anyone "leaked" info about the source of a leak?
I would imagine that Caro, Fine and jaxons would never disclose their source, as he would cut off the flow. Forever.
To expose the white-ant, a staffer would need to use a brand new media outlet.
And that person would need strong proof to be believed- copies of emails, etc
thus risking exposure of themselves. If Pelch was unmasked, he would be able to deduce the identity of the person who unmasked him.
Don't think it could happen. That person would be sacked.
One way to fight Pelch would be to undermine his authority the way he did to SW (if it were him)

[Con Gorozidis]

So is the Pelch Rudd and SW Gillard ?
Man im confused.
I still think the Pelch is Bill Shorten...
Undermined everyone an all sides . Still kicking. Rates himself. Bit of a charlatan.
Will either be a hero or a villain in 6 years from now.... Still unknown.
Wowee. Talk about intrigue.
When are we making 'Saints: the mini series'
An SSTV production.

[Con Gorozidis]

What about the the source of the leak of the source of the leak?

[The OtherThommo]

Just hypothethically, what would happen if someone close to the club started to leak that Pelchen was the source of the anti-Watters stuff that's been flying around?

has anyone "leaked" info about the source of a leak?
I would imagine that Caro, Fine and jaxons would never disclose their source, as he would cut off the flow. Forever.
To expose the white-ant, a staffer would need to use a brand new media outlet.
And that person would need strong proof to be believed- copies of emails, etc
thus risking exposure of themselves. If Pelch was unmasked, he would be able to deduce the identity of the person who unmasked him.
Don't think it could happen. That person would be sacked.
One way to fight Pelch would be to undermine his authority the way he did to SW (if it were him)

In order, Wellard;
No, been very hard to pin down. Distance had been sought over the last week or so.
Dunno about Caro being in that boat. This stuff has been very particular with a single target, so Caro would assess what future value her source may be able to offer. This is football, not Edward Snowden - she'd switch in a heartbeat, I reckon, if it gave her more copy. No-one's gonna go to jail or be rendered to Egypt.
Plenty of ways to get stuff out, and oodles of outlets. We don't have any rusted on support in the media - we're food.
That's not the way it works these days - close to plausible will excite enough to kick the idea off. What if the person doesn't give a rat's freckle if Pelchen can identify them?

But, as I said, it's only a hypothetical. And, I was thinking about it in the context of how the club would look, rather than Pelchen.

[WellardSaint]

I follow several Saints players on Twitter, and the silence today is deafening.
Oh, Armo said "WOW!" in capitals. Nothing else.
And the bankrupt drunk (Fevola) tweeted to Armo & Chips that they can now go to US with Dustin as the coach is sacked.

[st.byron]

Is Pelchen the primary source of innuendo and hearsay regarding SW's supposed shortcomings??

Is he Jaxon's source regading trade moves??

Is he Finey's and Caro's source regarding inner turmoil at the club??

Is the he central reason for the inner turmoil at the club??

Is he the real reason behind why the CEO, some assistants and the fitness coach left??

Will the board have the balls to sack him if it is found that he has been undermining the club and privately releasing sensitive information to suit his "my way or the highway" agenda??

Is BigMart correct in saying we should sack him??

Cloaks and Daggers

Why start a thread shitebagging Pelchen? What's the point?
He's done a fantastic job in the trade period and has a fantastic track record.
I think it's good Watters has been sacked, given the dysfunction around him that has been reported.
The club has moved to keep their vision on track. There is a strategic plan and the board is behind Pelchen in his role as Director of Football to implement it.
There's a bigger picture beyond the hysteria of the last day and it's clear that club management are intent on keeping their eye on that bigger picture.

[Verdun66]

Have read so much today, but someone has put it out there that Pelchen is a candidate for CEO. Can't remember now where I saw it. Why not I suppose, although they'd want to be sure about it. I see the CEO out there getting revenue for the club amongst other business activities, and not being involved day to day in the Footy dept. Could he do that? Doubtful....

[Devilhead]

Why start a thread shitebagging Pelchen? What's the point?
He's done a fantastic job in the trade period and has a fantastic track record.
I think it's good Watters has been sacked, given the dysfunction around him that has been reported.
The club has moved to keep their vision on track. There is a strategic plan and the board is behind Pelchen in his role as Director of Football to implement it.
There's a bigger picture beyond the hysteria of the last day and it's clear that club management are intent on keeping their eye on that bigger picture.

Hey I am just interested to know who is leaking sensitive information through to the media

Are you happy that the media has been leaked information regarding the inner workings at the club??

Obviously there is someone or some people at the club who have loose lips??

No reason why it would not be Pelchen given his relationship with Watters ....

As I said Cloaks and Daggers and the club has suffered as a whole for it

Time to plug these leaks!!

[plugger66]

Why start a thread shitebagging Pelchen? What's the point?
He's done a fantastic job in the trade period and has a fantastic track record.
I think it's good Watters has been sacked, given the dysfunction around him that has been reported.
The club has moved to keep their vision on track. There is a strategic plan and the board is behind Pelchen in his role as Director of Football to implement it.
There's a bigger picture beyond the hysteria of the last day and it's clear that club management are intent on keeping their eye on that bigger picture.

Hey I am just interested to know who is leaking sensitive information through to the media

Are you happy that the media has been leaked information regarding the inner workings at the club??

Obviously there is someone or some people at the club who have loose lips??

No reason why it would not be Pelchen given his relationship with Watters ....

As I said Cloaks and Daggers and the club has suffered as a whole for it

Time to plug these leaks!!

I said on here a few weeks ago whoever is leaking all this crap must be sacked. people then said nothing is leaking, its all just the media. Now we do know its fact and I still say the club must find out who it is and sack them. If its a few people and it was a ploy by the club to get it out there than I am confused as to what should be done. maybe others have the answer if that is the case. One thing I feel is I havent trusted Pelchan from the beginning. Doesnt mean he is the one or should be sacked but just have a feeling about him. He could make or break this club.

[paddy]

While it is hard to believe that there is some integrity in sports journalism, perhaps all the info that has been 'leaked' is just true.

The truth always has an annoying habit of coming out most of the time...

All I can say is i'm happy that the club has taken control of things, focusing on being proactive, not just reactive

[Devilhead]

I said on here a few weeks ago whoever is leaking all this crap must be sacked. people then said nothing is leaking, its all just the media. Now we do know its fact and I still say the club must find out who it is and sack them. If its a few people and it was a ploy by the club to get it out there than I am confused as to what should be done. maybe others have the answer if that is the case. One thing I feel is I havent trusted Pelchan from the beginning. Doesnt mean he is the one or should be sacked but just have a feeling about him. He could make or break this club.

You cant help but feel that the club has put alllllllll its eggs into one basket with Pelchen

In Pelchen we trust??

I dont think we have a choice

[Schillaci]

I said on here a few weeks ago whoever is leaking all this crap must be sacked. people then said nothing is leaking, its all just the media. Now we do know its fact and I still say the club must find out who it is and sack them. If its a few people and it was a ploy by the club to get it out there than I am confused as to what should be done.

The leak is a real concern. It simply shouldn't happen and if the source is known they should be sacked.
If it was a ploy by the club then it was well done...achieved its purpose...but why couldn't the club just sack the coach after the review? Doesn't make sense to me. The prez was measured in his responses at the press conference...maybe he doesn't he have a big enough pair to say SW was crap because dadadadada so he had to go. everyone is too nice these days.