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Where's the cheese: our one hole

Post: # 1409265Post Southern Moss »

Now that we are excited about the recent trades, one hole will need to be filled in about 2 to,3 years: leadership. According to a sports psychologist I spoke to recently, young players--because of youthful enthusiasm, low expectations, and no burnout--can sometimes thrive without leaders. After about 3 to 5 years, however, many players begin to falter unless inspired by the right mentor or leader.

Will any of our existing players be able to assume this role in 3 to 5 years. Do any of the players exhibit the necessary qualities: a touch of charisma, a passion to lead, significant experience, and above average ability--qualities that seem to inspire younger players. Some of our players, like Jack Steven, will exhibit one attribute but perhaps not all attributes. Other older players, like Tom Lee, will still not be experienced enough. Yet, at this time, such leadership will be vital.

I think we need to consider two options.

1. At this time, recruit a top player or two, but at the end of their careers, for a year or so to lead our players.
2. Sacrifice quite a few draft picks and the like to secure a couple of top players from other clubs.

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Post: # 1409269Post Animal Enclosure »

Two words.

Jack. Newnes


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Post: # 1409277Post PADDLEPOP1001 »

Be interesting to see how Savage goes about it ,would definitely have learnt a bit at the Hawks surrounded by Hodgey , Mitchell and the like!


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Post: # 1409280Post dragit »

I thought you were talking about this

http://youtu.be/N1zL13LvxS8

Newnes, Curren & Markworth appear to have the right temperament.


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Post: # 1409283Post Con Gorozidis »

dragit wrote:I thought you were talking about this

http://youtu.be/N1zL13LvxS8

Newnes, Curren & Markworth appear to have the right temperament.
Agree - hopefully Seb will come out of his shell a bit too.


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Post: # 1409292Post skeptic »

the onus here is on SW.

One thing about GT, love him or hate him... he really managed to develop the teams next generation of leaders out of the plethora of youngs players at the club.

SOme like Ball and Roo were always going to be leaders whilst others like Dal, Monty, Blake etc developed skills over time.

Do it SW


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Post: # 1409301Post Richter »

Likely leadership group for the post- Roo, Lenny, Joey, Sean Dempster world.... i.e. 3 years or so time...

Gears, Armo (already members), Jack Newnes, Tom Curren, Jack Steven and Seb Ross (all current members of the 'emerging leaders' group).

Seem pretty solid to me.


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Post: # 1409305Post Lyon Tamer »

Interesting post, Jack Newmes looks like a natural leader to me.

A week ago we assumed the next captain would be Benny Mac! How much can change in a week...


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Post: # 1409311Post Wrote for Luck »

I don't think we need to get older players in for the purpose of leadership, there are plenty of men in there who will take this on naturally - we may be surprised who. Or it may be more collective than that.


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Post: # 1409314Post saintsRrising »

Southern Moss wrote:Now that we are excited about the recent trades, one hole will need to be filled in about 2 to,3 years: leadership. A

Thoughs?
We already have players on board as we do not just have a group of kids now...and oldies. ie We now have a much more even age profile after the last two years of recruiting.


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Post: # 1409439Post SaintPav »

skeptic wrote:the onus here is on SW.

One thing about GT, love him or hate him... he really managed to develop the teams next generation of leaders out of the plethora of youngs players at the club.

SOme like Ball and Roo were always going to be leaders whilst others like Dal, Monty, Blake etc developed skills over time.

Do it SW

At the end of the day it was either GT or Chris Connolly.

GT did do some good things but the question remains, did he do more bad than good. It really depends on who you ask.

It's all history now anyway.


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Post: # 1409446Post chook23 »

Animal Enclosure wrote:Two words.

Jack. Newnes
two words

spot on


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Post: # 1409449Post Jacks Back »

Longer.


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Post: # 1409484Post Munga »

Curren has captain written all over him


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Really good thread good question


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Post: # 1409625Post Cairnsman »

I wonder if it's a case of having to wait until the chemistry is established, or almost established, for this next core group of players coming through, and from that the Leaders might pick themselves. We need a Joel Selwood.


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Post: # 1409630Post Dis Believer »

Cairnsman wrote:I wonder if it's a case of having to wait until the chemistry is established, or almost established, for this next core group of players coming through, and from that the Leaders might pick themselves. We need a Joel Selwood.
Geelong's got one - we should see if they will let us have him......... :lol: :lol:


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Post: # 1409636Post gringo »

Seb Ross looks like an intense little f%$#er. He would freak me out and make me play better because he looks pissed off even when he's not. I like an intense captain. Your best buddy types don't do it for me. Geary would be a good Paul Kelly type captain. You know he would inspire by having his head shoved into the shins of the opposition at any opportunity.


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Post: # 1409698Post Cairnsman »

gringo wrote:Seb Ross looks like an intense little f%$#er. He would freak me out and make me play better because he looks pissed off even when he's not. I like an intense captain. Your best buddy types don't do it for me. Geary would be a good Paul Kelly type captain. You know he would inspire by having his head shoved into the shins of the opposition at any opportunity.
Good call.


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Post: # 1409751Post skeptic »

SaintPav wrote:
skeptic wrote:the onus here is on SW.

One thing about GT, love him or hate him... he really managed to develop the teams next generation of leaders out of the plethora of youngs players at the club.

SOme like Ball and Roo were always going to be leaders whilst others like Dal, Monty, Blake etc developed skills over time.

Do it SW

At the end of the day it was either GT or Chris Connolly.

GT did do some good things but the question remains, did he do more bad than good. It really depends on who you ask.

It's all history now anyway.
do you feel he did good a job job in developing leadership amongst the players?


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Post: # 1409761Post Rosco »

I agree with those putting Gears forward, at least for match day leadership. I don't think I've seen him speak publicly though.


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Post: # 1409765Post Bernard Shakey »

From what I've seen at Sandy, it's Jack Newnes or Daniel Markworth.
I know Daniel hasn't played a game yet, but he is a class act.


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Post: # 1409768Post WellardSaint »

Funnily enough, the club has people in place who are trained in identifying, nurturing and developing leaders. Every workplace does this.


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Post: # 1409771Post saintbrat »

I agreee it's Markworth, Newnes and Curren..


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Post: # 1409822Post Munga »

the cheese is old and mouldy


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