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Sigh if true..... I'll miss Dal... was close to winning one or two brownlows.
Much better player than Goddard imo and will be a far greater loss. He's a champ.
I wasn't too angry with loosing Goddard (probably because he hasn't been as consistent and cracked the sads alot) but Dal will hurt a lot.
st.byron wrote:If true, it may be possible that we trade that compo pick to GWS for Bruce.
End result would be Bruce and Delaney for Dal.
and another pick..
Don't think so Brat. Dal goes as a free agent, we get compo pick 22. We then give North 109 or similar for Delaney.
We then give GWS our compo pick #22 for Bruce.
Net result is we receive Delaney and Bruce, GWS get pick 22 and Dal goes to North along with our last rounder as a token trade for Delaney.
Mixed emotions, we'd hope that the player we get for pick 20 turns out to be a gun. What I don't understand though is if North commit us to letting Dal go via Free Agency, how is it that they cant return the favour and let Delaney go via delisted free agency.
I am excited by the talent available from 6-20 this year, which has me thinking that 4 top 20 picks is an amazing opportunity. But to move Dal on makes me bloody sad as he was probably my favourite player from day one.
How can Pelch possibly get rid of a left footer with sublime skills
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lefty wrote:Sigh if true..... I'll miss Dal... was close to winning one or two brownlows.
Much better player than Goddard imo and will be a far greater loss. He's a champ.
I wasn't too angry with loosing Goddard (probably because he hasn't been as consistent and cracked the sads alot) but Dal will hurt a lot.
I feel similarly sad. Genuine quality player. Durable, hardly ever injured. But it's realistic to say he wont be there when we next have a shot. The club said some hard decisions have to me made and this is one of them.
Dal (leaving?) will hurt a lot..............but his departure will make room on the list (and in the salary cap) for a player/s that will be part of our next Premiership Team.
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BakesFan wrote:Dal (leaving?) will hurt a lot..............but his departure will make room on the list (and in the salary cap) for a player/s that will be part of our next Premiership Team.
st.byron wrote:If true, it may be possible that we trade that compo pick to GWS for Bruce.
End result would be Bruce and Delaney for Dal.
and another pick..
Don't think so Brat. Dal goes as a free agent, we get compo pick 22. We then give North 109 or similar for Delaney.
We then give GWS our compo pick #22 for Bruce.
Net result is we receive Delaney and Bruce, GWS get pick 22 and Dal goes to North along with our last rounder as a token trade for Delaney.
What are North giving up to get a star? Jack Shisen. Really annoys me. We give up first round picks for unknowns. We will give up significantly more for Bruce. The system is rooted. The game is rooted. I give up.
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chook23 wrote:
pick 22 for bruce....................overs?
Yes agree it overs for an unproven player third or fourth in line as a key defender at his current club. More like a 3rd rounder as I see it. But it seems the club want him, we need key defenders and there's no-one else on the horizon. Might have to bite the bullet and pay overs to get one.
Especially when we had the whip hand and could get Delaney in the PSD.
Dal for #22 at the highest is really selling him short.
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One is pretty normal, two is tough to swallow, three is an issue IMO
Sad indictment on a club who had to pawn it's ageing stars because it fell from grace due to no continual development and roll over.... Forward planning non-existent.... Oh that's right it was a risk for a premiership
I didn't realise you had to forfeit the future to win a premiership...... 2009, ill say it again.... IMO the most glorious year for performance, the most detrimental for the future of the club....
Sometimes I think StK would sell its arse at the right price for a quick fix.... Hopefully the club survives and prospers
So Pelchen decided 22 + Delaney was better than 26 + Delaney
Then we end up with:
3, 18, 19, 22, Savage, Delaney (and possibly Bruce in the psd)
Is that about right?
Gee whizz we need 3/4 of those draft picks to work out.
If thats it with Jolley in the PSD, we must be aiming to
a) sack Watters
b) get the No1 pick in the 2014 pick
we will be lucky to win three games next season
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That's what happens when your club doesn't put resources into recruiting and player development - you have to pay overs to trade in the players you need !
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One is pretty normal, two is tough to swallow, three is an issue IMO
Sad indictment on a club who had to pawn it's ageing stars because it fell from grace due to no continual development and roll over.... Forward planning non-existent.... Oh that's right it was a risk for a premiership
I didn't realise you had to forfeit the future to win a premiership...... 2009, ill say it again.... IMO the most glorious year for performance, the most detrimental for the future of the club....
Sometimes I think StK would sell its arse at the right price for a quick fix.... Hopefully the club survives and prospers
But what a sad way to have to do it!!!
You love to hammer the club Mart. One thread after another.
You're right about no forward planning in drafting and trading during Lyon's tenure. It could have so easily been two flags and then we wouldn't be smarting about it so much. Lyon would be a club legend. But he's not and yes the recruiting and trading was rubbish when he was coach.
Ball we lost because of Lyon's intransigence. Ball leaving is entirely down to Lyon.
Goddard was the first genuine quality player to go under FA rules. What would you have done different to keep him? Match the Bummers' deal?
Dal is not going to be there when we are next in a position to challenge. If anything this decision is exactly the kind of forward looking hard headed call you are saying we have been lacking in.
Free agency has changed footy. It's much the same as EPL and US sports where players often move for more money, the good of the club or a combination of both. No use taking it to heart, we'll get our opportunity at a free agent when we're a team back on the rise. Good luck to Dal with his future at the Roos.
One is pretty normal, two is tough to swallow, three is an issue IMO
Sad indictment on a club who had to pawn it's ageing stars because it fell from grace due to no continual development and roll over.... Forward planning non-existent.... Oh that's right it was a risk for a premiership
I didn't realise you had to forfeit the future to win a premiership...... 2009, ill say it again.... IMO the most glorious year for performance, the most detrimental for the future of the club....
Sometimes I think StK would sell its arse at the right price for a quick fix.... Hopefully the club survives and prospers
But what a sad way to have to do it!!!
You love to hammer the club Mart. One thread after another.
You're right about no forward planning in drafting and trading during Lyon's tenure. It could have so easily been two flags and then we wouldn't be smarting about it so much. Lyon would be a club legend. But he's not and yes the recruiting and trading was rubbish when he was coach.
Ball we lost because of Lyon's intransigence. Ball leaving is entirely down to Lyon.
Goddard was the first genuine quality player to go under FA rules. What would you have done different to keep him? Match the Bummers' deal?
Dal is not going to be there when we are next in a position to challenge. If anything this decision is exactly the kind of forward looking hard headed call you are saying we have been lacking in.
Good post. really good post.
but it still sucks.
I can live with pick 19 but I hope GWS don't make us pay overs for Bruce.
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Old Mate wrote:Free agency has changed footy. It's much the same as EPL and US sports where players often move for more money, the good of the club or a combination of both. No use taking it to heart, we'll get our opportunity at a free agent when we're a team back on the rise. Good luck to Dal with his future at the Roos.
yes, another good post..
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One is pretty normal, two is tough to swallow, three is an issue IMO
Sad indictment on a club who had to pawn it's ageing stars because it fell from grace due to no continual development and roll over.... Forward planning non-existent.... Oh that's right it was a risk for a premiership
I didn't realise you had to forfeit the future to win a premiership...... 2009, ill say it again.... IMO the most glorious year for performance, the most detrimental for the future of the club....
Sometimes I think StK would sell its arse at the right price for a quick fix.... Hopefully the club survives and prospers
But what a sad way to have to do it!!!
You love to hammer the club Mart. One thread after another.
You're right about no forward planning in drafting and trading during Lyon's tenure. It could have so easily been two flags and then we wouldn't be smarting about it so much. Lyon would be a club legend. But he's not and yes the recruiting and trading was rubbish when he was coach.
Ball we lost because of Lyon's intransigence. Ball leaving is entirely down to Lyon.
Goddard was the first genuine quality player to go under FA rules. What would you have done different to keep him? Match the Bummers' deal?
Dal is not going to be there when we are next in a position to challenge. If anything this decision is exactly the kind of forward looking hard headed call you are saying we have been lacking in.
Old Mate wrote:Free agency has changed footy. It's much the same as EPL and US sports where players often move for more money, the good of the club or a combination of both. No use taking it to heart, we'll get our opportunity at a free agent when we're a team back on the rise. Good luck to Dal with his future at the Roos.
Why wouldn't we take it to heart. We have just lost 2 of our all time greats in 2 years ffs. It has cost the clubs stealing these 2 players donuts in terms of compensation. Can't see any top 20 league players knocking down our door to wear our colours. The system is a joke. Why are you so sure we will get an opportunity?
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Old Mate wrote:Free agency has changed footy. It's much the same as EPL and US sports where players often move for more money, the good of the club or a combination of both. No use taking it to heart, we'll get our opportunity at a free agent when we're a team back on the rise. Good luck to Dal with his future at the Roos.
Why wouldn't we take it to heart. We have just lost 2 of our all time greats in 2 years ffs. It has cost the clubs stealing these 2 players donuts in terms of compensation. Can't see any top 20 league players knocking down our door to wear our colours. The system is a joke. Why are you so sure we will get an opportunity?
We lost Carl and Stewie over a few of years. Nothing has changed through FA.