Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
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Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
With the Saints being 3 to 4 yrs away from potentially being able to have a shot at a flag,we shouldn't be throwing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ at players just yet.
I hope we save our dollars and time our run to spend up when our nucleus of the team has played 50 to 60 games and we are on the cusp of finals.
I understand patience will be tested but we need to develop from within for the next couple of years and strike when the hard work with the GWS and SUNS boys has been done .
As we have seen with Ablett and will see with Buddy,everyone has a price?
C'mon The Saints.
I hope we save our dollars and time our run to spend up when our nucleus of the team has played 50 to 60 games and we are on the cusp of finals.
I understand patience will be tested but we need to develop from within for the next couple of years and strike when the hard work with the GWS and SUNS boys has been done .
As we have seen with Ablett and will see with Buddy,everyone has a price?
C'mon The Saints.
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
I believe AFL rules state we have to spend 95% of our salary cap. Who do you suggest we pay that to?
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How were Geelong able to do it in 2002-2007 where their senior players were on peanuts ,which enabled their list to still develop and recruit accomplished players from other clubs??
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He's a good foot soldier who has a crack but not overly quick, not an elite user of the footy and will never be an elite mid. He is not our answer and definitely not worth what you would call a handsome deal. He is no Tomlinson or Treloar.FQF wrote:Front load a handsome 4 year deal for Adams I say.
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We don't need to spend up , because we don't have any A-grade players anymore !
Roo and Lenny are still great but age is against them .
Dal and joey , were B+ this year .
Jack was B+ this year , hopefully next year he will become an A grader .
For anyone else to become an A grader next year would take a massive jump in there preformance from this year , I hope some will take the step !
Roo and Lenny are still great but age is against them .
Dal and joey , were B+ this year .
Jack was B+ this year , hopefully next year he will become an A grader .
For anyone else to become an A grader next year would take a massive jump in there preformance from this year , I hope some will take the step !
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mr six o'clock wrote:We don't need to spend up , because we don't have any A-grade players anymore !
Roo and Lenny are still great but age is against them .
Dal and joey , were B+ this year .
Jack was B+ this year , hopefully next year he will become an A grader .
For anyone else to become an A grader next year would take a massive jump in there preformance from this year , I hope some will take the step !
I reckon jack was A grade this year and Joey and Rooy very close.
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You're rightplugger66 wrote:mr six o'clock wrote:We don't need to spend up , because we don't have any A-grade players anymore !
Roo and Lenny are still great but age is against them .
Dal and joey , were B+ this year .
Jack was B+ this year , hopefully next year he will become an A grader .
For anyone else to become an A grader next year would take a massive jump in there preformance from this year , I hope some will take the step !
I reckon jack was A grade this year and Joey and Rooy very close.
but i just think jack and joey were a little inconsistant and roo's knee hampered him in the last half of the year .
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Adams is miles better than Tomlinson .Jimmy O'Dea wrote:He's a good foot soldier who has a crack but not overly quick, not an elite user of the footy and will never be an elite mid. He is not our answer and definitely not worth what you would call a handsome deal. He is no Tomlinson or Treloar.FQF wrote:Front load a handsome 4 year deal for Adams I say.
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As people say we need to spend 95% of our sc.
I'd rather that wasnt spent on tdl .
We need a young gun or three .
We should have got caddy and ill take adams
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Joey's numbers A Grade.... Jack still needs to tidy up his errors, but is very close IMO ..... Riewoldt had A Grade to Elite numbers for 2/3 of the season..
I don't know why clubs don't try and put their best team on the park every year.... Why is there a culture of playing dead if you can't win the cup.... Why not win as much as you can EVERY year....
As we know, your never guaranteed a cup at any stage.... Mistake of putting all eggs in a short era for a flag, is that few teams actually pinch one....
I don't know why clubs don't try and put their best team on the park every year.... Why is there a culture of playing dead if you can't win the cup.... Why not win as much as you can EVERY year....
As we know, your never guaranteed a cup at any stage.... Mistake of putting all eggs in a short era for a flag, is that few teams actually pinch one....
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Joey's numbers A Grade.... Jack still needs to tidy up his errors, but is very close IMO ..... Riewoldt had A Grade to Elite numbers for 2/3 of the season..
I don't know why clubs don't try and put their best team on the park every year.... Why is there a culture of playing dead if you can't win the cup.... Why not win as much as you can EVERY year....
As we know, your never guaranteed a cup at any stage.... Mistake of putting all eggs in a short era for a flag, is that few teams actually pinch one....
I don't know why clubs don't try and put their best team on the park every year.... Why is there a culture of playing dead if you can't win the cup.... Why not win as much as you can EVERY year....
As we know, your never guaranteed a cup at any stage.... Mistake of putting all eggs in a short era for a flag, is that few teams actually pinch one....
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
Experienced senior players should lead the way, but it has been a sorry sight this year..Lenny injuries, Fisher injuries, NDS not busting a gut, Roo trying hard but the knees are wobbly, Joey doing OK, Dempster inconsistent, Milne off the boil, Schneids injuries, Maister injuries, Blake and Kosi gone for the best part of the season. Older bodies not getting over injuries as eaasily as they once could.
A season with no real senior leadership, so no wonder a rebuild is in full swing. We should spend up big, or at least with what we have in the bank.
A season with no real senior leadership, so no wonder a rebuild is in full swing. We should spend up big, or at least with what we have in the bank.
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Was Sam Mitchell not 'busting a gut' in the Grand Final? He was overcome by a tagger??
Fact is, taggers are very good, very few beat them.... He got the 'lock down' weekly
He goes... Jack Steven won't get a license to run around on his own head to head getting kicks at will... He'll have an opponent blocking his run, scragging him, buffeting him, holding constantly.... Life will become very different.
Fact is, taggers are very good, very few beat them.... He got the 'lock down' weekly
He goes... Jack Steven won't get a license to run around on his own head to head getting kicks at will... He'll have an opponent blocking his run, scragging him, buffeting him, holding constantly.... Life will become very different.
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They will definitely tag him first next year.BigMart wrote:Was Sam Mitchell not 'busting a gut' in the Grand Final? He was overcome by a tagger??
Fact is, taggers are very good, very few beat them.... He got the 'lock down' weekly
He goes... Jack Steven won't get a license to run around on his own head to head getting kicks at will... He'll have an opponent blocking his run, scragging him, buffeting him, holding constantly.... Life will become very different.
Jack will need to learn some tricks and youngsters will need to learn to block and screen the tagger.
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
Not if Dal is at StK....
Allow Dal Santo 30 a game in the midfield... Chances are you'll lose... He will set goals up at will... He is never allowed freedom.... Unless of course BJ Goddard is also there
Jack is the most predominant midfielder ATM because he isn't the most productive.... Or creative.... Without the others he will be sat on by the opposition #1 every game
Allow Dal Santo 30 a game in the midfield... Chances are you'll lose... He will set goals up at will... He is never allowed freedom.... Unless of course BJ Goddard is also there
Jack is the most predominant midfielder ATM because he isn't the most productive.... Or creative.... Without the others he will be sat on by the opposition #1 every game
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
BackFromUSA wrote:They will definitely tag him first next year.BigMart wrote:Was Sam Mitchell not 'busting a gut' in the Grand Final? He was overcome by a tagger??
Fact is, taggers are very good, very few beat them.... He got the 'lock down' weekly
He goes... Jack Steven won't get a license to run around on his own head to head getting kicks at will... He'll have an opponent blocking his run, scragging him, buffeting him, holding constantly.... Life will become very different.
Jack will need to learn some tricks and youngsters will need to learn to block and screen the tagger.
Jack ran off a few that tried to hold him back this year and Joey and jack both had a grade years.
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
Joey averaged 30 touches per game, had only one match under 22 disp, kicked 16 goals for the year…mr six o'clock wrote:You're rightplugger66 wrote:mr six o'clock wrote:We don't need to spend up , because we don't have any A-grade players anymore !
Roo and Lenny are still great but age is against them .
Dal and joey , were B+ this year .
Jack was B+ this year , hopefully next year he will become an A grader .
For anyone else to become an A grader next year would take a massive jump in there preformance from this year , I hope some will take the step !
I reckon jack was A grade this year and Joey and Rooy very close.
but i just think jack and joey were a little inconsistant and roo's knee hampered him in the last half of the year .
Jack had very similar numbers, slightly less touches, but I thought they were both very consistent and A grade.
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
Let's start by giving Clinton Jones and Beau Maister another contractBernard Shakey wrote:I believe AFL rules state we have to spend 95% of our salary cap. Who do you suggest we pay that to?
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Re: Why we Don't Need To Spend up yet?
NDS is an easy tag, but in many cases, his tagger becomes an attacking player in his own right- that's why Lyon dropped NDS to the VFL years back- didn't work hard enough off the ball. Mitchell is a different story- played a lot of tough midfield footy this year.BigMart wrote:Was Sam Mitchell not 'busting a gut' in the Grand Final? He was overcome by a tagger??
Fact is, taggers are very good, very few beat them.... He got the 'lock down' weekly
He goes... Jack Steven won't get a license to run around on his own head to head getting kicks at will... He'll have an opponent blocking his run, scragging him, buffeting him, holding constantly.... Life will become very different.
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NDS is an easy tag
5 times top 4 in the B&F should have won 2011 in the absence of Lenny... Triple AA suggest he ain't that easy to tag??
It's a exaggeration which gets perpetuated by simpletons.... Like Ledger can't kick, Riewoldt is soft or Zac is a good FB??
His numbers considering the attention he receives are good, again is Sam Mitchell an easy tag? Is Stevie J?
5 times top 4 in the B&F should have won 2011 in the absence of Lenny... Triple AA suggest he ain't that easy to tag??
It's a exaggeration which gets perpetuated by simpletons.... Like Ledger can't kick, Riewoldt is soft or Zac is a good FB??
His numbers considering the attention he receives are good, again is Sam Mitchell an easy tag? Is Stevie J?