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Post: # 1395072Post stinger »

Bernard Shakey wrote:Thanks for the nine years you've given the club Michael!
have to agree with you there......thank you ceo....


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Any applicants who have an MBA should go to the bottom of the pile.


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Post: # 1395082Post jaxons »

In his tenure he was responsible for;

- letting the best coach in the AFL walk.
- replacing him with the worst coach in the AFL
- Goddard leaving which was a domino effect
- Setting up at Seaford which is slowly killing us
- the poorest salary cap position a few years ago
- and about to release a $4m loss for this year

Today is a day of celebration.
The worst CEO we have had since Archie Fraser.
Can we actually get someone good this time?
Go and get the best, Brian Cook, except nothing less.
He nearly went to North last year, must be gettable.

Nettlefold, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya!


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Post: # 1395088Post SaintPav »

Archie Frazer oversaw the Seaford deal.

KD and crappy stadium deal also have a bit to do with loss in revenue.


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Post: # 1395089Post Greg T »

jaxons wrote:In his tenure he was responsible for;

- letting the best coach in the AFL walk.
- replacing him with the worst coach in the AFL
- Goddard leaving which was a domino effect
- Setting up at Seaford which is slowly killing us
- the poorest salary cap position a few years ago
- and about to release a $4m loss for this year

Today is a day of celebration.
The worst CEO we have had since Archie Fraser.
Can we actually get someone good this time?
Go and get the best, Brian Cook, except nothing less.
He nearly went to North last year, must be gettable.

Nettlefold, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Agreed, and got paid shitloads to boot ...what a joke....


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Post: # 1395094Post The OtherThommo »

Legendary wrote:So much conspiracy.

The bloke is worth a packet, has worked his arse off for the club when he had no need to. Yes he's been well rewarded, but so is every CEO in the competition.

He's done 5 years. That's about as much as you actually want from any CEO - and make no mistake, Nettlefold has been great. His one blemish is the Lyon situation. Otherwise I think he's been great for the club. Anyone who has dealt with him behind the scenes should acknowledge that.

Let's hope we find a good replacement.

Terry Dillon we poached from the Hawks as Nettlefold's 2IC. Might get a promotion.
Half way through Page 2 before I come across a reasoned comment.


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Post: # 1395095Post The OtherThommo »

HitTheBoundary wrote:Is Foiney on tonight? He might have some insights...
Not a hope in hell.


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Post: # 1395096Post The OtherThommo »

saintspremiers wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:I reckon Nettlefold got pushed out. A timely way to keep it low profile was to announce it prior to the Grand Final
Of course he was pushed. And rightly so.

Don't shut the door.
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jaxons wrote:In his tenure he was responsible for;

- letting the best coach in the AFL walk.
- replacing him with the worst coach in the AFL
- Goddard leaving which was a domino effect
- Setting up at Seaford which is slowly killing us
- the poorest salary cap position a few years ago
- and about to release a $4m loss for this year

Today is a day of celebration.
The worst CEO we have had since Archie Fraser.
Can we actually get someone good this time?
Go and get the best, Brian Cook, except nothing less.
He nearly went to North last year, must be gettable.

Nettlefold, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Let's run by them 1 by 1, shall we;
- So Roscoe wasn't enticed by the $1M+/p.a., with the 1st (?) take a guess yrs paid up front by Woodside Petroleum?
- It is an opinion based industry, I 'spose
- In the 2 years after '10, what'd he have - 1 low level top 10 B & F rank - yet he demanded to be the club's highest paid player? Spare me. Even at his best, he preferred to wander across h-b and receive.
- As previously advised, not Nettlefold
- Ya reckon GT might have had something to do with the "poorest salary cap position a few years ago"? How many blokes were signed to deals like Hamill, Penny etc during Nettlefold's reign? How's the salary cap position now?
- Don't buy the "loss" narrative without understanding the diff b/w (e.g.) cash and non cash items. I even know accountants who got sucked in by the write downs of Moorrabbin as if they were relevant to cash flows. The other thing to acknowledge is this is not a profit driven organisation - no AFL Club is. AFL Clubs are part NGO and part socialist beneficiaries. If ya reckon they should be treated as profit driven enterprises it would be about a 6 team competition, because the rest would have been declared bankrupt or insolvent at some point in the last 4.5 decades.

So you're celebrating, whoopdee do. What exactly? The departure of a bloke who left managing a multi $M private business to help out his old footy club, and earnt significantly less than he could have done by staying where he was? Or the bloke who negotiated a deal with the AFL that placed us in much the same "growth corridor" club status as GCS and GWS?
- Isn't he the only CEO since Archie Fraser?
- What d'ya reckon Brian Cook might cost? D'ya think there might be some competition?

So ya wouldn't want to be Mick Nettlefold? How are things going just ATM?

By f*** we're a proud bunch of scapegoat seekers.


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Post: # 1395105Post The OtherThommo »

saintspremiers wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
The Saints are expected to post a significant loss this year after making an operating profit of $630,000 last year following a loss of $1.5million in 2011.
New president Peter Summers said Nettlefold, who moved into the role of CEO after being a board member for five years, had not been pushed into resigning. "I can absolutely guarantee you the call came from Michael," Summers said.
‘‘He raised the idea with me several weeks ago. We have been going through reviews of the club, some are normal, some are a bit more [pointed] given we are a club in transition, and as part of that he said, 'I am considering where I am at'
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2uj1o.html
So he wasn't pushed but doesn't have a job lined up.

What ya reckon bratty? :lol:
If he so chooses he doesn't need one.


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perfectionist wrote:Good. I'll do it for $500,000 per year and save the club $250,000. It will be hard making ends meet, especially with all those arduous trips to Europe and the USA to fit in, but service to the club comes first. Next to go should be Pelchen.
Err, no thanks......and, no thanks.


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stinger wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
The Saints are expected to post a significant loss this year after making an operating profit of $630,000 last year following a loss of $1.5million in 2011.
New president Peter Summers said Nettlefold, who moved into the role of CEO after being a board member for five years, had not been pushed into resigning. "I can absolutely guarantee you the call came from Michael," Summers said.
‘‘He raised the idea with me several weeks ago. We have been going through reviews of the club, some are normal, some are a bit more [pointed] given we are a club in transition, and as part of that he said, 'I am considering where I am at'
."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2uj1o.html
it's entirely possible that he offed himself because the saints could no longer afford his salary......maybe the same reasons...financial for combining other roles and giving hutchy the flick.......
Seems pretty likely doesn't it.

Ps is that correct that the CEO's salary is $750k. If so that sounds preposterous to me. An organisation with a turnover in the 10s of millions has a CEO with a salary that high? No wonder we're in the soup financially.


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Post: # 1395111Post magnifisaint »

Saints better get their s*** together. Sick of all the unrest that the club attracts


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Post: # 1395140Post SaintPav »

The OtherThommo wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Good. I'll do it for $500,000 per year and save the club $250,000. It will be hard making ends meet, especially with all those arduous trips to Europe and the USA to fit in, but service to the club comes first. Next to go should be Pelchen.
Err, no thanks......and, no thanks.

you're too kind....more like two of the dumbest suggestions I have ever read on here.

Hi Jack.

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Post: # 1395144Post matrix »

f*** it....I'll do it for 250 a year and a carton of Dr pepper a week


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Post: # 1395150Post spert »

Basically the club has gone from strength to failure, and a CEO presiding over that scenario should move on.


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Has anyone considered the fact he maybe tired and worn out from having to deal with a large multi- million dollar organisation that brings with it-some players who just don't get "it " whatever "it" is, plus the board, coaching panel politics, some supporters who will never be happy, plus a so called Saints supporting radio announcer who is never happy with anything in life or with the Saints.

And that's just for a start.

So maybe he's burnt out and with a decent income at the back from selling his business a few years ago, it's become the point to call time.

Considering the circumstances this club and players hgas found itself over the last years, I'd would have had enough too, and if any if you out there think you can handle this unrelenting pressure then apply for the job.

We have had highlights as well but they get lost in the sensation hugging headlines of other matters.


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Post: # 1395204Post BigMart »

He was there when two (possibly 4) stars walked.

A highly rated coach

Moved from Moorabbin to Seaford

Lost membership

Dropped from 2nd to 9th to 16th in three years

Bailed on 500k tassie deal which powerhouse hawthorn now benfit

The failure of two vfl alignments

More off field drama than any other club, culture is still poor

Appointment of poor recruitment and development staff

Now he is jumping off a sinking ship

Just some home truths....


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BigMart wrote:More off field drama than any other club, culture is still poor

Appointment of poor recruitment and development staff

Now he is jumping off a sinking ship

Just some home truths....
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Post: # 1395258Post lloyd21 »

[quote="BigMart"]He was there when two (possibly 4) stars walked.

A highly rated coach

:D we have one Scott Watters

Moved from Moorabbin to Seaford

:D had no choice council would not assist now several years later council assisting in getting major development at
Moorabbin

Lost membership

That is result of not winning games. :D

Dropped from 2nd to 9th to 16th in three years

So did Collingwood :D

Bailed on 500k tassie deal which powerhouse hawthorn now benfit

Wellington is a better deal for Saints going forward make more than that now.
Hawthorn make their real money from Coterie members my former boss puts in $3 million each year since 2008
He is a director of Hawthorn and mentors current players on business to further their careers


The failure of two vfl alignments

Correct so they are going to field stand alone team going forward :)


Appointment of poor recruitment and development staff

Now he is jumping off a sinking ship

Actually securing major deal in New Zealand

Not saying club has not made mistakes all clubs do


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Post: # 1395549Post whiskers3614 »

bigred wrote:Thanks for the good work.

Should not have let Lyon go. Should not have had the slightest opportunity. Biggest FAIL of his tenure.

If that was his biggest failure he deserves a knighthood!


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Post: # 1396593Post Con Gorozidis »

Bowey Boy wrote:Younger brother Barclay would be a readymade choice.
given our clubs track record with women barclay would fit right in.
i mean the club really needs another sex pest.
we should request a hole in the head while were at it.


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Post: # 1396594Post Verdun66 »

He maybe had stuff to contend with behind the scenes that we don't know about. But as I have said before, his expertise lay in the advertising world, and over 5 years our lack of meaningful sponsors means that his tenure has to go down as a fail. All the negative publicity would not have helped, and selling to sponsors who didn't want to be associated with Centrebet would have been difficult. But that was his 'area' and he really didn't do much, or inspire others to do it.

So, even though he was and is a good Saints man, he needed to move on.


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Post: # 1413012Post noob »

Ever since he joined as CEO in 2009 the club started to turn into a rabble with all the off-field antics. Does he take any blame of where St.Kilda stands as for as today?


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noob wrote:Ever since he joined as CEO in 2009 the club started to turn into a rabble with all the off-field antics. Does he take any blame of where St.Kilda stands as for as today?

Didnt we play in 3 GF's in that time as well?


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