Shenton Might Not Make It
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have to say he looked like a very good vfl player expected to play above his weight. Problem as some have mentioned is his age and length of time on rookie list. If you had the choice between ledger and him age wise you would have to go ledger. Also seems to have no weapons, average height, average speed.
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Agree with all of this. I've never seen anything in Shenton that suggests he'll ever be an effective AFL player. Not an accumulator, no physical presence (despite his appearance), pace and skills just ok. Decent state level player but I'm not sure what he brings to the table at AFL level.Solar wrote:have to say he looked like a very good vfl player expected to play above his weight. Problem as some have mentioned is his age and length of time on rookie list. If you had the choice between ledger and him age wise you would have to go ledger. Also seems to have no weapons, average height, average speed.
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Shenton may still make it, but I'm still surprised that we didn't pick up Marley Williams, who was a steal at pick 35 on the rookie list (as he was expected to be picked up in the regular draft).
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances on an obscure player?
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances on an obscure player?
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samoht wrote:Shenton may still make it, but I'm still surprised that we didn't pick up Marley Williams, who was a steal at pick 35 on the rookie list (as he was expected to be picked up in the regular draft).
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances?
But every club miss him though even the pies. We may have ear marked for a later pick. Who would know apart from the recruiters.
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It's their job to know. Maybe Old Mate should put his hand up.plugger66 wrote:samoht wrote:Shenton may still make it, but I'm still surprised that we didn't pick up Marley Williams, who was a steal at pick 35 on the rookie list (as he was expected to be picked up in the regular draft).
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances?
But every club miss him though even the pies. We may have ear marked for a later pick. Who would know apart from the recruiters.
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samoht wrote:It's their job to know. Maybe Old Mate should put his hand up.plugger66 wrote:samoht wrote:Shenton may still make it, but I'm still surprised that we didn't pick up Marley Williams, who was a steal at pick 35 on the rookie list (as he was expected to be picked up in the regular draft).
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances?
But every club miss him though even the pies. We may have ear marked for a later pick. Who would know apart from the recruiters.
I think you will find Old Mate is in fact Tony Elshaug.
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You're getting mixed up with Phoney Elshaugh... (with a "h" at the end).plugger66 wrote:
I think you will find Old Mate is in fact Tony Elshaug.
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Maybe coz they thought Marley Williams was a d**khead. He's already been arrested and is on assault charges.samoht wrote:Shenton may still make it, but I'm still surprised that we didn't pick up Marley Williams, who was a steal at pick 35 on the rookie list (as he was expected to be picked up in the regular draft).
I remember Old Mate mentioning Marley and putting up a video of him before the AFL draft proper and I liked what I saw (a tough running player with a raking left foot kick).
Having slipped through - he should have been earmarked by our recruiters - why take chances on an obscure player?
Making him the perfect Collingwood player I guess.
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Then you have Darren Minchington, pick 65 in the rookie draft who will be better than both of the players mentioned here.
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Fair enough; I'm sure there must have been a reason that Marley was overlooked.savatage wrote:Then you have Darren Minchington, pick 65 in the rookie draft who will be better than both of the players mentioned here.
You win some and you lose some.
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fair suck of the sauce bottle......bergholt wrote:Shenton was OK for a while today but looked like he'd completely run out of petrol tickets by the start of the third quarter.
I have a feeling he doesn't have the tank for AFL football, and considering he's almost 23, is it possible for him to somehow become an endurance athlete? If not, he didn't really show enough special today to give me confidence that he's worth hanging on to for next year.
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defacto wrote:in their defence. ledger has spent 3 years on the list and has played multiple games of AFL level footballskeptic wrote:well most ppl on here have already written Ledger off prior to his game todayAP Erebus wrote:Jeez, the kids played 1 game and you are already calling time on his career?
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Shenton has some weapons and is an accumulator he's been averaging around 25 possies off a back wing when playing at sandy. Strong over head mark and racking kicks. He has a bit of Farren Ray about him. Cool head under pressure takes the game on. I think he has the ability just wether he gets another go at it.
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gringo wrote:Shenton has some weapons and is an accumulator he's been averaging around 25 possies off a back wing when playing at sandy. Strong over head mark and racking kicks. He has a bit of Farren Ray about him. Cool head under pressure takes the game on. I think he has the ability just wether he gets another go at it.
Have you got your final delistings gringo because as much as you can see good in most players we need to lose some because we need better players.
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plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:Shenton has some weapons and is an accumulator he's been averaging around 25 possies off a back wing when playing at sandy. Strong over head mark and racking kicks. He has a bit of Farren Ray about him. Cool head under pressure takes the game on. I think he has the ability just wether he gets another go at it.
Have you got your final delistings gringo because as much as you can see good in most players we need to lose some because we need better players.
Already done it earlier in the year at your insistence. Can't be stuffed again. Fergburger was gone, Staley maybe Lever, Blake, kos, Milney and I would have probably put Lenny off a year early and tried to get him at the club as a line coach to use his knowledge and experience. I have concerns his body is going to get less resilient and he's the closest to retirement of the seniors. Schnides was lucky he got some games or he would have been close to the cut I think.
Shenton and Ledger have been showing good form and deserved a go, i think we should see how he goes next weekend at least before chopping him. Lenny might have cost CJ his career at the Saints too. Dunell might be in the sights and Siposs might want some luck too. pelchen is a pretty dispassionate man if he's the list manager.
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gringo wrote:plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:Shenton has some weapons and is an accumulator he's been averaging around 25 possies off a back wing when playing at sandy. Strong over head mark and racking kicks. He has a bit of Farren Ray about him. Cool head under pressure takes the game on. I think he has the ability just wether he gets another go at it.
Have you got your final delistings gringo because as much as you can see good in most players we need to lose some because we need better players.
Already done it earlier in the year at your insistence. Can't be stuffed again. Fergburger was gone, Staley maybe Lever, Blake, kos, Milney and I would have probably put Lenny off a year early and tried to get him at the club as a line coach to use his knowledge and experience. I have concerns his body is going to get less resilient and he's the closest to retirement of the seniors. Schnides was lucky he got some games or he would have been close to the cut I think.
Shenton and Ledger have been showing good form and deserved a go, i think we should see how he goes next weekend at least before chopping him. Lenny might have cost CJ his career at the Saints too. Dunell might be in the sights and Siposs might want some luck too. pelchen is a pretty dispassionate man if he's the list manager.
I will do another thread after next weeks game then.
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plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:plugger66 wrote:
Have you got your final delistings gringo because as much as you can see good in most players we need to lose some because we need better players.
Already done it earlier in the year at your insistence. Can't be stuffed again. Fergburger was gone, Staley maybe Lever, Blake, kos, Milney and I would have probably put Lenny off a year early and tried to get him at the club as a line coach to use his knowledge and experience. I have concerns his body is going to get less resilient and he's the closest to retirement of the seniors. Schnides was lucky he got some games or he would have been close to the cut I think.
Shenton and Ledger have been showing good form and deserved a go, i think we should see how he goes next weekend at least before chopping him. Lenny might have cost CJ his career at the Saints too. Dunell might be in the sights and Siposs might want some luck too. pelchen is a pretty dispassionate man if he's the list manager.
I will do another thread after next weeks game then.
I still would have liked to see more than 6 and a half quarters to decide. We delisted Will Johnson after about a half of footy. His size in the backline would be handy about now. I thought he was good at Sandy.
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He's 191 and 91 - exactly the same size as Simpkin. (Smaller head though.) Not sure he would have added that much, all things considered.gringo wrote:I still would have liked to see more than 6 and a half quarters to decide. We delisted Will Johnson after about a half of footy. His size in the backline would be handy about now. I thought he was good at Sandy.
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bergholt wrote:He's 191 and 91 - exactly the same size as Simpkin. (Smaller head though.) Not sure he would have added that much, all things considered.gringo wrote:I still would have liked to see more than 6 and a half quarters to decide. We delisted Will Johnson after about a half of footy. His size in the backline would be handy about now. I thought he was good at Sandy.
Oh well pays to look up the stats I guess, He played tall;) Still think he could play.