Saad b sample positive

[70s sainter]

How stupid is he? Why should the club support someone who is so stupid who has thrown away his career after all the time and money the club has invested in him?
Just sayin.

[SAAD]

it's like getting jail time for stealing a chocolate bar from safeway yet Jobe commits manslaughter and gets off....rubbish!

[maverick]

Have no idea what speed and dope and ice has to do with anything. Saad will get the same as anyone else who has used what he did because he was caught. No idea about the Essendon players but people on here who claim they know everything have said they will gt what WADA think they deserve.

So who has used what Saad used and what did they get?

The guy from the VFL. The gave him 9 months and ASADA appealed and he got 2 years.

So was that the same energy drink, where's that been reported.

[plugger66]

So who has used what Saad used and what did they get?

The guy from the VFL. The gave him 9 months and ASADA appealed and he got 2 years.

So was that the same energy drink, where's that been reported.

I dont think it was the same but very similar. I have no idea how you can stick up for Saad. I feel sorry for him. Very sorry but its a open and shut case. Hopefully he somehow gets off.

[whiskers3614]

Not likely.
we are not the Magpies.

[plugger66]

Not likely.
we are not the Magpies.

Why? Who has used from that club?

[maverick]

The guy from the VFL. The gave him 9 months and ASADA appealed and he got 2 years.

So was that the same energy drink, where's that been reported.

I dont think it was the same but very similar. I have no idea how you can stick up for Saad. I feel sorry for him. Very sorry but its a open and shut case. Hopefully he somehow gets off.

Whose sticking up for Saad?
I read Richard Ings say it was on the minor side, that doesn't sound like 2 years to me, don't think 2 years is a set penalty, thought it was dependent on circumstances and substances taken.
Saad will get what he should, naive, stupid or not.
I thought you knew they took the same drink.

[kosifantutti]

What about Jobe?

ASADA are flat track bullies. They are tough on unknown players but too weak punish a big name.

p.s I just realised that A SAAD was an anagram for ASADA

that is seriously spooky

Majak Daw's brother Ahmed should be worried.

[ShanghaiSaint]

Saad is not a cheat. Mistake iand silly yes. Hope he gets a month or two at most. Two years is nuts

[whiskers3614]

Not likely.
we are not the Magpies.

Why? Who has used from that club?

Depends on what you mean by used.

[ljpoyz]

He deserves two years.

[ShanghaiSaint]

He deserves two years.

Yeh right so sm is a rapistvaswell yeh

[ljpoyz]

Possibly, that'll be sorted in time. My thoughts re doping do not change whether it is one of our players or someone elses. He took a banned substance therefore should see the ban. He has no excuse at all.

He deserves two years.

Yeh right so sm is a rapistvaswell yeh

[ShanghaiSaint]

Possibly, that'll be sorted in time. My thoughts re doping do not change whether it is one of our players or someone elses. He took a banned substance therefore should see the ban. He has no excuse at all.

He deserves two years.

Yeh right so sm is a rapistvaswell yeh

Yep we know all the facts black and white. God I wish I lived in your world. It must be nice

[ljpoyz]

Both samples tested positive, fact. Black and white. Naivety is no excuse. Lance, Tyson Gay, Sam Reilly, Ahmed Saad, Jobe Watson, Carl Lewis, RN, Thorpedo... All the same.

By the way, I have nothing to complain about in my world, it is as good as you imagine.

He deserves two years.

Yeh right so sm is a rapistvaswell yeh

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[vacuous space]

Two years is disgusting. He's tested positive, he deserves a penalty, but two years is in line with the worst PEDs out there. Any drug code that does not distinguish between various substances, lacks flexibility and compassion for the players is not a code the AFL should be a part of.

[ShanghaiSaint]

Both samples tested positive, fact. Black and white. Naivety is no excuse. Lance, Tyson Gay, Sam Reilly, Ahmed Saad, Jobe Watson, Carl Lewis, RN, Thorpedo... All the same.

By the way, I have nothing to complain about in my world, it is as good as you imagine.

He deserves two years.

Yeh right so sm is a rapistvaswell yeh

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Your off your head saad and lance same boat. So stupid,

[ljpoyz]

It is easy to make excuses, neither deserve them. They both ingested PEDs, they both deserve the bans they received.

[dragit]

He deserves two years.

The penalty should reflect the seriousness of the offence, if the substance he took is okay outside of game day, then he should receive a lesser punishment than a player taking completing banned substances.

If saad gets 2 years, then Essendon deserve 25.

[saintspremiers]

How stupid is he? Why should the club support someone who is so stupid who has thrown away his career after all the time and money the club has invested in him?
Just sayin.

Agree. He's gone already in my book regardless of the length of penalty.

Wity Milne retired off almost definitely at year end we've at least rid ourselves of current scandals.

What will next year bring FFS?

Bring GT back as president FFS, assuming AD steps down.

We need a real leader of kids and how to be a footballer and person integrated as one.

[Rosco]

He's not bad, but he's terrible if he can't play

He'll be delisted and replaced on the list, and probably in breach of his contract (if he gets banned)

[ljpoyz]

The penalty should simply reflect the code. Whether that needs tinkering or not doesn't really affect Saad.
He was taking a banned substance on game day, he doesn't deserve compassion in his sentence. Otherwise you'd have a lot more players rolling the dice and claiming it was an "accident", safe in the knowledge the punishment is lenient.

When it comes to PEDs, what Essendon have taken aren't at the higher level. They're certainly not taking
EPO or blood doping, where the biggest advantage is.

He deserves two years.

The penalty should reflect the seriousness of the offence, if the substance he took is okay outside of game day, then he should receive a lesser punishment than a player taking completing banned substances.

If saad gets 2 years, then Essendon deserve 25.

[dragit]

Nothing to do with compassion... A shake that you are allowed to drink 6 days of the week, just not on match day is clearly not considered at the high end of PED, a player taking EPO or steroids should be considered a worse offence surely?

[Old Mate]

I read a recent article re Saad saying the punishment must fit the crime. It mentioned the average AFL career is 5 years therefor a 2 year suspension is far too much especially considering it will be career over for him. Effectivelly Saad gets a life sentence. A very valid point IMO given the substance Saad took and lack if intent, however reckless so agreed some punishment must stand.

Given my above point the comparison with the ammo player is not right given he will still play plenty of footy.

IMO suspending Saad for 10 matches is about right. What do I think will happen. When all is said and done I see the full 2 years and career over.

[dragit]

I wonder how the actual substance compares with the Matt Clarke VFL case? Homo rage...

I reckon saad will get a 1 year ban, there has to be some room to move when it comes to classing the offence.