Some signs

[joffaboy]

Lets face it, Hawks missing two superstars going at half rat power still beat us by 7 goals but..

Murdoch didn't look out of place

Webster tried hard and continues to improve

Newness disposal and attack on the football getting better all the time

Saunders. Love his attack and run

Roberton, continues to be in the Saints best

Kids not setting the world on fire but getting games into them and they continue to improve

Yours sincerly

Pollyanna

[joffaboy]

Forgot Michington. Nuggety little bloke who has a bit of go in him

Curren 20+ possessions.

[MadSaintFan]

Curren was the biggest positive for mine. His 2nd half was very good

[St Ick]

Saunders' first 10 metres are explosive!

[The Fireman]

Murdoch...I like & Saunders

[CURLY]

Murdoch was the one tonight. His one on one marking was excellent.

[bigcarl]

Murdoch...I like

yes, he seems tough

[WinnersOnly]

Gees Father Time is starting to catch up with Lenny - I know it would be hard for him to get excited about the year but gees he looks slow !

[mullet]

Dermie just said that there are some good kids out there which will make our bottom 6 quite strong in the future. Said we just need a couple of stars to come through or to recruit.

[Teflon]

That kid Schneider will be handy next year...

That said, I am happy that although none of those kids look star material, I think they are showing enough to suggest they can be good to very good players "potentially" and that they could infact raise the bar of our overall list. I think its time we got away from 6-8 stars....HOLE...then role players and got a much more even contribution from a solid list with obviously a few guns thrown in.

Its late.

[whiskers3614]

Dermie just said that there are some good kids out there which will make our bottom 6 quite strong in the future. Said we just need a couple of stars to come through or to recruit.

And a few of the old warriors to either get their bodies into shape or retire.
EG Fisher, Dempster
Suspect Lenny, Milne, Kosi and Blake gone already.

[whiskers3614]

That kid Schneider will be handy next year...

That said, I am happy that although none of those kids look star material, I think they are showing enough to suggest they can be good to very good players "potentially" and that they could infact raise the bar of our overall list. I think its time we got away from 6-8 stars....HOLE...then role players and got a much more even contribution from a solid list with obviously a few guns thrown in.

Its late.

Well said!
Might even cure our "Messiah complex"

[Jacks Back]

Does the club own any weights? Most, if not all, of those kids need to put some muscle on so their tackles can stick.

[joffaboy]

Does the club own any weights? Most, if not all, of those kids need to put some muscle on so their tackles can stick.

No they dont do weights at St.Kilda

FGS how long have you watched football? 18 year olds, 20 year olds, even 22 year olds dont have a football hardened body.

The kids need a few preseasons to get the muscle mass.

Some of the kids are a good size like Wright, Murdoch, and Webster.

Give them time FFS.

[Teflon]

Dermie just said that there are some good kids out there which will make our bottom 6 quite strong in the future. Said we just need a couple of stars to come through or to recruit.

I think hes right and I dont like Dermie....

Tonight, if they continue, show me we are building a solid foundation and really good sides have that at their core without relying solely on individual genius every week.

Sydney is the model - sure they have cream, but they have a very good solid foundation underpinning their list.

Lyon never got this right - had he spent some time on that mid tier who knows cause we certainly had the cream at the top.

Hope Hayes plays on. Think its time for Blake, Kosi, Milne (focus on family time)...Fisher must be thinking.

[Bluthy]

That kid Schneider will be handy next year...

That said, I am happy that although none of those kids look star material, I think they are showing enough to suggest they can be good to very good players "potentially" and that they could infact raise the bar of our overall list. I think its time we got away from 6-8 stars....HOLE...then role players and got a much more even contribution from a solid list with obviously a few guns thrown in.

Its late.

Couldn't agree more. Watters is working on getting a list with real depth rather than betting the farm on an outstanding top 10. I like it. You are only as good as the weakest links. It also fosters a more cohesive list.

Impressed with Tommy Lee as a forward target tonight. He seems to be getting some real confidence. When he stretches those arms up he's hard to beat.

[noob]

To me Tommy Lee seems a great pick up. Very clever and crafty with the hands which suggests he is an intelligent footballer.

[Teflon]

Agree. Think Lee would make the ideal 2nd target..........dont think we have the forward gun yet to replace Riewoldt........maybe that trade of pick number 3 and player for 1 is essential for Boyd..

[SainterK]

I enjoyed that, irrespective of the scoreboard.

I didn't enjoy some other losses, this one had some highlights and good "kid" moments

[Bluthy]

Another good sign was we seemed to play a bit of tempo footy at times, chipping it around with short kicks to cool things down when it looked like spiralling out of control big time. I noticed even Hawthorn seemed to take it down a gear after that. A good tool to have to be able to control a game.

[Bluthy]

Oh and how good is Roberton? He's a tough nut with ice in his veins - never panics. I almost take him for granted now because he is so consistent. Its nice having a rock solid performer you can rely on in the back half with all the changes.

[Con Gorozidis]

I have to agree.
I mean if you look at the Hawks - their younger players are really made to look better than they are by having the guns along side them.
Mitchell sewell lake burgoyne roughhead gibson guerra etc are still doing all the hard yakka winning ball in the clinches.
having 10-12 guns at the peaks of their powers is still the name of the game and we are a few years off that happening.
but we still have 'found' 6-8 players this year. thats pretty bloody good. all of them need to improve but at least they can play.

for me personally saunders has been my surprise packet. i really had doubts but hes shown hes tough fast and gutsy and makes good decisions. hes almost an excitement machine. you have to love the bloke.

and roberton has been a coup. much tougher than he looks. loved some of his tackles.

[ShanghaiSaint]

Agree. Think Lee would make the ideal 2nd target..........dont think we have the forward gun yet to replace Riewoldt........maybe that trade of pick number 3 and player for 1 is essential for Boyd..

Stanley and lee up forward will be good. Still like the stan

[Munga]

Saunders is dead set Stevens mk II.
Early days Jack was a headless chook and not the cleanest kick because he was too quick.
Hopefully turns out just as well.

[SainterK]

Dare I say we do finally have a good amount of leg speed?