The thrashing we had to have?
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The thrashing we had to have?
Just trying to put a positive spin on a disappointing night.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
Why did we have to cop a thrashing?SydneySainter wrote:Just trying to put a positive spin on a disappointing night.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
[quote="8856brother"][quote="SydneySainter"]Just trying to put a positive spin on a disappointing night.[/quote]
Why did we have to cop a thrashing? [/quote]
Because we've been "VERY naughty boys!"
Why did we have to cop a thrashing? [/quote]
Because we've been "VERY naughty boys!"
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
I guess a thrashing was on the cards, but a 101 point loss seemed a little excessive. First time we'd suffered a 100+ point loss since 2002. Same venue to the same pack of cockeyed, bucktoothed, sheepshagging inbreeds. f***, I hate Geelong.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
It was always on the cards, although the final margin was disappointing. There'll be a few more of those over the next couple of years. I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
true WW on the confidence, but i think our young guns of 01-02-03 took it well considering what they dished up to the first 10 teams of 04.White Winmar wrote:It was always on the cards, although the final margin was disappointing. There'll be a few more of those over the next couple of years. I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
the not kicking a goal from the 2nd was a massive disappointment for me. But our team is really in disarray due to injury atm. This why i am not being critical of anyone anymore.. in the press conference, Watters was asked about Stanley he clearly said he's in defense as we have no other options atm (he see's him as a forward). I just hope we can pick up a decent defender this trade/draft period.
What about the BUll Murdoch? Can he play CHB or FB? (even as a filler)
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
The encouraging thing is we're generally pretty competetive against teams that aren't around the top 4. Hopefully this pattern is maintained throughout this supposed rebuild. Don't mind getting the odd thrashing against a quality team, as long as the players are learning something from it. On the other hand, getting our arse handed to us on a platter by teams such as Brisbane (next week) could be quite demoralising and damaging to the developing players' psyche.White Winmar wrote:I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
I don't subscribe to the theory that we "Have to Have" thrashings. I expect there will be more thrashings over the next 12 months or so. They are NEVER palatable and we need to stay well away from 100+ point thrashings !!
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I was uneasy in the pregame "saints have been competitive" they were saying...better than their three wins.
Dunno, I just got this feeling of foreboding that they'd jinxed us...and what were the chances we'd get spanked.
Seemed mental. Newnes, Lee and Saunders played well early...but as soon as that run came on, they saw their chance slip and played accordingly.
Said last week our defence hash got enough credit this year, Over the last fortnight it's suffered for Gears Robbo and Gwilt being injured. No rebound.
Wright should of in hindsight come in to replace Robbo.
Dunno, I just got this feeling of foreboding that they'd jinxed us...and what were the chances we'd get spanked.
Seemed mental. Newnes, Lee and Saunders played well early...but as soon as that run came on, they saw their chance slip and played accordingly.
Said last week our defence hash got enough credit this year, Over the last fortnight it's suffered for Gears Robbo and Gwilt being injured. No rebound.
Wright should of in hindsight come in to replace Robbo.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
It's the constant pressure. As it increases, the opposition gets a bit better and our intensity drops away a little further. Guys like Stanley don't have the experience and can't cope in the backline. Add in a Gwilt injury and things get worse, as we saw.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
Our oldies were ok, but our kids were dreadful.
Was inevitable that we would have a game when so many would go missing.
Was inevitable that we would have a game when so many would go missing.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
Would have liked to have seen the Saints go man-on-man as the margin escalated. At some point you
have to say "stop the free-flowing run-on stuff" because Geelong's excellent pressure just forced
turnovers. Man on man would not have won the game, but it would have slowed Geelong's
effortless midfield run and their scoring opportunities.
Having Riewoldt lame, Gwilt proppy, Stanley in a muddle, Sipposs disinterested, Steven not hitting targets,
meant the Saints could not match it with the Cats when they went up a gear after qtr time.
have to say "stop the free-flowing run-on stuff" because Geelong's excellent pressure just forced
turnovers. Man on man would not have won the game, but it would have slowed Geelong's
effortless midfield run and their scoring opportunities.
Having Riewoldt lame, Gwilt proppy, Stanley in a muddle, Sipposs disinterested, Steven not hitting targets,
meant the Saints could not match it with the Cats when they went up a gear after qtr time.
Re: The thrashing we had to have?
To be honest I cant see what they could learn from that game. its probably best to move on forget about it and try and find some positives elsewhere. Set the bar a little lower and take one step at a time etc etc.Sainternist wrote:The encouraging thing is we're generally pretty competetive against teams that aren't around the top 4. Hopefully this pattern is maintained throughout this supposed rebuild. Don't mind getting the odd thrashing against a quality team, as long as the players are learning something from it. On the other hand, getting our arse handed to us on a platter by teams such as Brisbane (next week) could be quite demoralising and damaging to the developing players' psyche.White Winmar wrote:I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
Positives from last night's thrashing, Casey Tataungi's (spelling?) family will be a little better off financially than they were after his life-changing accident, which puts footy firmly into perspective!
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
100 point thrashing s should have been a thing well and truly of the past.
Lets hope that it was only a one off.
Only GWS or Melb should cop these .
It was plain embarrassing and we should move on pretty quick.
Losses like these will set the club back to the Stone Age .
Members to sponsors etc,we can ill afford that
Lets hope that it was only a one off.
Only GWS or Melb should cop these .
It was plain embarrassing and we should move on pretty quick.
Losses like these will set the club back to the Stone Age .
Members to sponsors etc,we can ill afford that
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
I think we need more than one decent defender. Try a handful.ShanghaiSaint wrote:true WW on the confidence, but i think our young guns of 01-02-03 took it well considering what they dished up to the first 10 teams of 04.White Winmar wrote:It was always on the cards, although the final margin was disappointing. There'll be a few more of those over the next couple of years. I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
the not kicking a goal from the 2nd was a massive disappointment for me. But our team is really in disarray due to injury atm. This why i am not being critical of anyone anymore.. in the press conference, Watters was asked about Stanley he clearly said he's in defense as we have no other options atm (he see's him as a forward). I just hope we can pick up a decent defender this trade/draft period.
What about the BUll Murdoch? Can he play CHB or FB? (even as a filler)
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
I'm sure there'll be plenty of things for the players to reflect on where and what they did wrong though. With things like video analysis in professional sports these days, it'll be difficult for them to avoid last night's game altogether. It's also unlikely the coaching panel will be saying "okay boys, let's just forget everything about the last game" over the course of the week.Playon wrote:To be honest I cant see what they could learn from that game. its probably best to move on forget about it and try and find some positives elsewhere. Set the bar a little lower and take one step at a time etc etc.Sainternist wrote:The encouraging thing is we're generally pretty competetive against teams that aren't around the top 4. Hopefully this pattern is maintained throughout this supposed rebuild. Don't mind getting the odd thrashing against a quality team, as long as the players are learning something from it. On the other hand, getting our arse handed to us on a platter by teams such as Brisbane (next week) could be quite demoralising and damaging to the developing players' psyche.White Winmar wrote:I just hope defeats of this magnitude don't crush the younger players' confidence. Just look at what regular beatings have done to Melbourne.
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I think we are still two years away from completly bottoming out yet unless Pelchen and co is a genius,then it will take X many years to rebound. So get used to the thrashings...the silver lining,we'll probably be the first side to challenge the two expansion clubs era of dominance at the end of the decade,unless we F*** up all our top 10 picks like Melbourne have
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No matter what excuses are put up, the effort or lack of by so many players against Geelong was unacceptable..it was a give-up effort and made me sad to watch it. As far as I'm concerned, the coach, fitness dept and many players should be getting the finger pointed at them this week by the board. Even worse is the fact that Sandy got clobbered- no real hope for the future after that combined effort of rubbish.
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One thing for sure is the next 3-4 years are will be great pickings in the draft and we will be in pole position to take advantage of it. We will also have all our senior players retiring over that time so salary cap space won't be an issue either. We will be a force again pretty quickly if we don't stuff it up. Melbourne have shown us how not to do it. We have had a good run, albeit without the flags, so a few years picking up great players and then another run at it. Sounds good to me.
I like our board, the coach seems to be ok for a rebuild type, the NZ experiment is the right thing for where we are at financially, our senior retirements look like they will be staggered so the kids get some role models - I like it. Better than hanging around in 10th with no hope.
I like our board, the coach seems to be ok for a rebuild type, the NZ experiment is the right thing for where we are at financially, our senior retirements look like they will be staggered so the kids get some role models - I like it. Better than hanging around in 10th with no hope.
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
Anyone watch the Ch7 game yesterday, I cN't even say which onr
Joey was on as commentator apparently, and said it was the first 100 pt loss he had been involved in at the club
Atleast no player from the club who played on the weekend will feel left out with Sandringham alsi goibg down by over 100
Joey was on as commentator apparently, and said it was the first 100 pt loss he had been involved in at the club
Atleast no player from the club who played on the weekend will feel left out with Sandringham alsi goibg down by over 100
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Did Joey play at Kardinia Park for round 4 2002 When we were done by 122? I know that Dal played (possibly his debut?)
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Re: The thrashing we had to have?
To me we need more than one tall defender. Surely someone like Rodda would be worth a go? He is a huge unit and couldn't hurt surely. Then go after one of the GWS tall backmen- Silvagni has over done them with tall backs.
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gringo wrote:To me we need more than one tall defender. Surely someone like Rodda would be worth a go? He is a huge unit and couldn't hurt surely. Then go after one of the GWS tall backmen- Silvagni has over done them with tall backs.
How many players should we delist then?