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Stanley
Just wondering who here reckons he's going to make it? As in make it big time be a gun A grade AFL player. To me he has all the attributes but just doesn't look natural..? Or maybe just doesn't utilise those attributes like you'd think he could or should.
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Re: Stanley
At the moment the best way to describe him would be a "TEASE". Like you said, he has the attributes. I suppose its up to him to best utilise them !!MC Gusto wrote:Just wondering who here reckons he's going to make it? As in make it big time be a gun A grade AFL player. To me he has all the attributes but just doesn't look natural..? Or maybe just doesn't utilise those attributes like you'd think he could or should.
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Re: Stanley
I would like Stanley to make the grade.. BIG Time.
Got a little way to go yet to avoid a GOP rating.
Got a little way to go yet to avoid a GOP rating.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: Stanley
One of our few players with genuine trade value. Just saying.
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Re: Stanley
He has the physical attributes but I fear he lacks the footy smarts to become even an average player. Being in WA I don't get to see our team live very often but his effort against the Dockers last weekend was sub-standard. Maybe he is carrying an injury, but he looked disinterested and provided nothing for the team as a key forward. I would throw him into the middle just to get him involved in the game and get his hands on the ball.MC Gusto wrote:Just wondering who here reckons he's going to make it? As in make it big time be a gun A grade AFL player. To me he has all the attributes but just doesn't look natural..? Or maybe just doesn't utilise those attributes like you'd think he could or should.
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Re: Stanley
Actually feel he has become a little gun shy in using his speed since his hammy problems.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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His headspace is everywhere....
Started the as a defender, lost confidence and plan was abandoned..... As you know I was completely against the (next D Fletcher) idea long term, but could see the merit short term with no tall defenders at all....
If you put the plan into place, allow I time to develop... I actually think two of his best games were at CHB, but two bad ones he was moved for good?
Same with Siposs, spent the entire summer training as a HB winger, and 1 or 2 average games.... Plan abandoned, even though he dominated two pre season games there.... And he lost his confidence also...
Both obviously are long term forwards.... But time at HB would have helped their education, whilst utilising their attributes.
Started the as a defender, lost confidence and plan was abandoned..... As you know I was completely against the (next D Fletcher) idea long term, but could see the merit short term with no tall defenders at all....
If you put the plan into place, allow I time to develop... I actually think two of his best games were at CHB, but two bad ones he was moved for good?
Same with Siposs, spent the entire summer training as a HB winger, and 1 or 2 average games.... Plan abandoned, even though he dominated two pre season games there.... And he lost his confidence also...
Both obviously are long term forwards.... But time at HB would have helped their education, whilst utilising their attributes.
Re: Stanley
We're low on talls so not worth trading him for the sake of it unless we received a massive offer we couldn't refuse. A swap for Sloane and then I'd start to listen.
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Re: Stanley
Agree with most things you said - but why is it so 'obvious' that Stanley is a long term fwd?BigMart wrote:
Both obviously are long term forwards.... But time at HB would have helped their education, whilst utilising their attributes.
What is that based on?
Goals kicked in VFL? Goals kicked at SANFL? Goals kicked at AFL?
Siposs has at least kicked a truckload of goals as a kid - but sheesh massive step up being a a fwd in the AFL. I dont think too many defenders would be worried about manning up on Siposs with all due respect at the moment...
Im starting to think Stanley is a ruckman or nothing.
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Re: Stanley
On the wing!!!!
His best attribute is his pace.
So get him on the wing and tell him to run and dodge and kick to a one on one contest in the 50.
If not have a ping from 50.
His best attribute is his pace.
So get him on the wing and tell him to run and dodge and kick to a one on one contest in the 50.
If not have a ping from 50.
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Re: Stanley
I think he will make it. Has some outstanding attributes and has had a few good games. Tippett and Tex looked like spuds for a long time. Liam Jones for the dogs is in a similar position but I think he will be good long term too.
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Tex Walker kicked 56 goals in the SANFL including 7 in a final - aged 18gringo wrote:I think he will make it. Has some outstanding attributes and has had a few good games. Tippett and Tex looked like spuds for a long time. Liam Jones for the dogs is in a similar position but I think he will be good long term too.
Kurt Tippet kicked 55 goals in 2009 in the AFL - aged 22.
I'm starting to believe Stanley is a ruckman or nothing.
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I think he's probably our most natural ruckman & yet has hardly been given a go in that position.
As it stands....agree with a previous poster - due to his elite attributes he'd have a bit of trade currency if we were that way inclined.
As it stands....agree with a previous poster - due to his elite attributes he'd have a bit of trade currency if we were that way inclined.
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Re: Stanley
There was the game vs west coast last year where due to injuries Stanley got thrown in the ruck. Up until he tore his hammy he was beating the nic nac / cox duo.
Mind you he only played a qtr (if that) prior to the tear
Mind you he only played a qtr (if that) prior to the tear
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Any defender would hate standing a 200cm (think Tippett) fwd who can jump and catch it. Stanley just needs to HTFU and impose himself with effort ATM, effort is why he hasn't been effective fwd... All about work rate as a fwd, he doesn't work and make it to enough contests, it's that simple.... Same could be said for Siposs (about work rate) Stanley shows glimpses because he can run, jump, mark kick....
Siposs is an absolute natural football, and if he gets to a contest will probably be dangerous, either creating or finishing.
If Lee ca stand up
The forward line of the future should have
Stanley..... Deep fwd, back up Ruckman
White/Lee.... Deep fwd, CHF rotation
Saad/Minchington.... Small forward
Lee/Siposs...... Third forward rotation hit up work horse
Murdoch/Markworth/Siposs ..... Medium forward rotation
The other fwd has to be a midfield rotation.... Steven, Armitage, Ross and another couple of players rotate through there.
Extreme athleticism in White, Stanley, Markworth, Saad, Steven... For offensive danger, defensive pressure
Overhead talent
Sipposs, Murdoch, Lee, Stanley, White
Ground level creativity
Siposs, Saad, Minchington, Steven, Armitage
They will add to a very dangerous forward line... Post Riewoldt
Siposs is an absolute natural football, and if he gets to a contest will probably be dangerous, either creating or finishing.
If Lee ca stand up
The forward line of the future should have
Stanley..... Deep fwd, back up Ruckman
White/Lee.... Deep fwd, CHF rotation
Saad/Minchington.... Small forward
Lee/Siposs...... Third forward rotation hit up work horse
Murdoch/Markworth/Siposs ..... Medium forward rotation
The other fwd has to be a midfield rotation.... Steven, Armitage, Ross and another couple of players rotate through there.
Extreme athleticism in White, Stanley, Markworth, Saad, Steven... For offensive danger, defensive pressure
Overhead talent
Sipposs, Murdoch, Lee, Stanley, White
Ground level creativity
Siposs, Saad, Minchington, Steven, Armitage
They will add to a very dangerous forward line... Post Riewoldt
Re: Stanley
I don't think he thinks he is going to make it...Spinner wrote:I don't think he is going to make it...
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Re: Stanley
I do but I reckon hes a ruckman.
So how we deal with 3 ruckman of similar age - I dont know.
So how we deal with 3 ruckman of similar age - I dont know.
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he IS a ruckman
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Re: Stanley
He's a ruckman of the future who can jump and not a lumbering type of ruckman.
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