34 Touches, 11 Clearances
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Re: 34 Touches, 11 Clearances
Do they definitely have a spot on the senior list for him? Maybe they are weighing up who to elevate for Fisher or can't afford it in the cap? Maybe they see Shenton or Staley as better options for structural reasons. The rookie list isn't just a supplementary list you pick from when you feel like it.
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gringo wrote:Do they definitely have a spot on the senior list for him? Maybe they are weighing up who to elevate for Fisher or can't afford it in the cap? Maybe they see Shenton or Staley as better options for structural reasons. The rookie list isn't just a supplementary list you pick from when you feel like it.
Lets wait until round 24 then. Also dont the AFL have a rookie upgrade after round 12 or has that gone?
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saintbrat wrote:working on other skills while he awaits a call up
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So if VFL form is no indicator... Why should the players bother with it??
Reality is.... If a bloke can dominate that level (which is very competitive) he can hopefully come in and do a job at senior level.
Haven't we buried the myth that VFL players cannot make the grade at the next level yet?
Some can, some cannot... But there's only one way to find out....
Hibbert's OK
Reality is.... If a bloke can dominate that level (which is very competitive) he can hopefully come in and do a job at senior level.
Haven't we buried the myth that VFL players cannot make the grade at the next level yet?
Some can, some cannot... But there's only one way to find out....
Hibbert's OK
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BigMart wrote:So if VFL form is no indicator... Why should the players bother with it??
Reality is.... If a bloke can dominate that level (which is very competitive) he can hopefully come in and do a job at senior level.
Haven't we buried the myth that VFL players cannot make the grade at the next level yet?
Some can, some cannot... But there's only one way to find out....
Hibbert's OK
Who has said it is no indicator. where do you get these things from?
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Re: 34 Touches, 11 Clearances
Tom Curren this week collected 38 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and last week 31 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal
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Looks like the boys ripe and ready...stkildathunda wrote:Tom Curren this week collected 38 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and last week 31 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal
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get 'im in.ShanghaiSaint wrote:Looks like the boys ripe and ready...stkildathunda wrote:Tom Curren this week collected 38 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and last week 31 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal
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Needs a couple of 40 possession games in a row IMOShanghaiSaint wrote:Looks like the boys ripe and ready...stkildathunda wrote:Tom Curren this week collected 38 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and last week 31 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal
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Can we demote ferguson now that he is out for 6+ weeks?
He ain't coming back into the seniors this year now...
Hope we see Curren get a game, he's done everything possible to get a chance.
He ain't coming back into the seniors this year now...
Hope we see Curren get a game, he's done everything possible to get a chance.
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plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:Do they definitely have a spot on the senior list for him? Maybe they are weighing up who to elevate for Fisher or can't afford it in the cap? Maybe they see Shenton or Staley as better options for structural reasons. The rookie list isn't just a supplementary list you pick from when you feel like it.
Lets wait until round 24 then. Also dont the AFL have a rookie upgrade after round 12 or has that gone?
I think the club must have a reason -they aren't maliciously declaring him incapable. I'm sure the coaching staff have noticed him too. There must be a reason we just don't know. They would want to try him out I would think. Not sure on the round 12 upgrade but they must still have a cap on how many you can elevate or the list would get out of hand.
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this stage cant hurt... how to make it happen seems like the bigger question?
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If the club wont even give this kid one single game but is playing the Big Kos based on his 2009 form there are some rocks in some heads.
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We all know why Kosi is playing. And that's fine, we have that luxury atm.
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Who knows could be the next Nathan Bourke. But then no-one will ever know if he's not given a chance. After his VFL form he deserves a go even if its the sub. (sighs petition).
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Cos Maister and Hickey are injured or because we are tanking?Rosco wrote:We all know why Kosi is playing. And that's fine, we have that luxury atm.
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No he wouldn't. He's been okay at Sandringham but let's not get carried away, he needs to come in and be consistently good to be retained on our list. The fact that all the first year mids have had a game in front of him and that Ferguson was promoted in front of him pretty much tells you what the club is thinking.paddy wrote:surely we aren't the only ones who notice him smashing it in VFL week in/ week out...plugger66 wrote:paddy wrote:if he doesnt get elevated he will leave... and i wouldnt blame him one bit
To go where?
would get a run at melbourne i'd say
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yeah but why is the club thinking like that?Hemi Baxter wrote: The fact that all the first year mids have had a game in front of him and that Ferguson was promoted in front of him pretty much tells you what the club is thinking.
Seb Ross is having a flat patch and looks tired
Saunders and Murdoch are playing at a standard expected of jnr players
Jones and Ray have the odd good game
Saad had about 5 poor games b4 he had a rest
Newnes is ok
Why not worth ago other than the rookie list reason... in that case why not Ledger
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Having been to most of the Zebs games this year both he and Ledger are in the gun because their disposal isn't up to scratch.skeptic wrote:yeah but why is the club thinking like that?Hemi Baxter wrote: The fact that all the first year mids have had a game in front of him and that Ferguson was promoted in front of him pretty much tells you what the club is thinking.
Seb Ross is having a flat patch and looks tired
Saunders and Murdoch are playing at a standard expected of jnr players
Jones and Ray have the odd good game
Saad had about 5 poor games b4 he had a rest
Newnes is ok
Why not worth ago other than the rookie list reason... in that case why not Ledger
I don't think that anyone on this forum would, for the reasons you cite or simply as a justified reward for effort, oppose him getting a senior game but that's not the whole story. The real decision we are making each week is whether we are going to play kids we are going to keep or pick the side on form in the two's. Not everyone, unfortunately can be given the same level of opportunity and some know already that it has passed them by.
FWIW, in addition, I think Curren's brief minutes of indecision in the NAB Cup haven't helped.
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No he couldn't.. Nathan Bourke was Nathan Bourke at 18, from his first game to his last... He wasn't just a nuggety, solid in-and-under type... He was a legitimate champion and was destined for it from his first season.. You could see it right away, much like Harv's...Playon wrote:Who knows could be the next Nathan Bourke.
Andrew Thompson is a more likely comparison, but with such an emphasis on disposal in today's game, not sure Thompson, and Curren as it stands, would've lasted as long..
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Cam someone please ask Scott watters why he isn't getting a game??
Would love to hear his answer.
Would love to hear his answer.
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We cannot continue to build lists littered with poor foot skills. It cost us 2 premierships. How bad is he by foot?SainterK wrote:Potential engine room.
Can't kick well? Who cares.
Get him in the guts, should of already been in the guts with Lenny injured.
Big enough body, wouldn't be easily rag-dolled.
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Harvey & Burke also had competent foot skills.Sobraz wrote:No he couldn't.. Nathan Bourke was Nathan Bourke at 18, from his first game to his last... He wasn't just a nuggety, solid in-and-under type... He was a legitimate champion and was destined for it from his first season.. You could see it right away, much like Harv's...Playon wrote:Who knows could be the next Nathan Bourke.
Andrew Thompson is a more likely comparison, but with such an emphasis on disposal in today's game, not sure Thompson, and Curren as it stands, would've lasted as long..
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You can't have a team full of players with good skills but soft as butter like Dal Santo. Got to have a good mixture of both.Moorabbin Man wrote:We cannot continue to build lists littered with poor foot skills. It cost us 2 premierships. How bad is he by foot?SainterK wrote:Potential engine room.
Can't kick well? Who cares.
Get him in the guts, should of already been in the guts with Lenny injured.
Big enough body, wouldn't be easily rag-dolled.