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Re: Milne
Wow. Talk about jumping to conclusions.
Both Milne and the club would be well aware of exactly what happened. If there was any chance that he was to be found guilty, the club would have cut him loose when they had the chance many years ago.
Suggestions that he should give in to this rubbish after fighting it for so long are ridiculous.
If he is found guilty, then yes, he deserves the punishment that comes with, but I find that highly unlikely after all this time.
Both Milne and the club would be well aware of exactly what happened. If there was any chance that he was to be found guilty, the club would have cut him loose when they had the chance many years ago.
Suggestions that he should give in to this rubbish after fighting it for so long are ridiculous.
If he is found guilty, then yes, he deserves the punishment that comes with, but I find that highly unlikely after all this time.
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or that someone with power has intervened...don't know enough..or anything really...to comment on the police initial cover up allegations......as i presume would be the case with all of us.....bigcarl wrote:Doesn't give you a lot of faith in law and order that it has taken this long for charges to be laid. It can mean only that the original investigation was completely botched or that new evidence has come to light.
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OK, stand corrected again. Not having a good afternoon. Should proof read before I post.Life Long Saint wrote:Gram's case did NOT involve violent behaviour.saint75 wrote:They are not different. The crux of the issue with both Gram and Lovett was abuse against women. Both were sacked. This smells of politics and a witch hunt to me and I don't personally believe Milne to be guilty. However, how can you sack 2 players for crimes against women and not the other?
In fact, all parties were quite adamant about that point.
Don't treat the Gram case the same as the Lovett or Milne case.
Gram was sacked due to his STALKING of a women. Still was an issue with a women that was unacceptable and was not tolerated.
I hope they don't stand Milne down, however, we could be viewed as hypocritical if we don't. Think he should definitely sit this weekend out.
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Re: Milne
It will come down to his word against hers.
And given the events that evening leading up to it, she will find it hard to argue.
Bit like a traffic accident without a camera where one party says it was a green light and the other says it was a red light.
And given the events that evening leading up to it, she will find it hard to argue.
Bit like a traffic accident without a camera where one party says it was a green light and the other says it was a red light.
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SaintPav wrote:It's absoultley shocking that a Police case could be tampered with in this way. Of course, I bet most people will focus on Milne and not on the corruption and cover ups that can occur in Vicpol which is a huge issue.
Pleae read the statement from the police. There was found to be NO tampering with the evidence. The issue was that it was not investigated thoroughly enough.
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he's still innocentsaint75 wrote:OK, stand corrected again. Not having a good afternoon. Should proof read before I post.Life Long Saint wrote:Gram's case did NOT involve violent behaviour.saint75 wrote:They are not different. The crux of the issue with both Gram and Lovett was abuse against women. Both were sacked. This smells of politics and a witch hunt to me and I don't personally believe Milne to be guilty. However, how can you sack 2 players for crimes against women and not the other?
In fact, all parties were quite adamant about that point.
Don't treat the Gram case the same as the Lovett or Milne case.
Gram was sacked due to his STALKING of a women. Still was an issue with a women that was unacceptable and was not tolerated.
I hope they don't stand Milne down, however, we could be viewed as hypocritical if we don't. Think he should definitely sit this weekend out.
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Re: Milne
This is my sentiments exactly, if he did it and there is no question he is guilty he deserves all the bad coming his way, however if not convicted and he is dragged through this again I'll be devastated for him.saint75 wrote:If he is found guilty, throw the book at him. If not, let this be a chance to clear his name once and for all.
In any case, as unfortunate as it is, I feel this might be it for milney the footballer, it's a shame but we can't throw him out to the wolves while it plays out
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removing evidence from a coppers desk and the womens statement ending up at the club?
thats not tampering with evidence??
this is not good
i think a few are going to be surprised at this outcome
just an opinion
thats not tampering with evidence??
this is not good
i think a few are going to be surprised at this outcome
just an opinion
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does anyone have a link to the civil case? Cheers
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Agree. Unless he is doing work on behalf of the clubstinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ofzh.html
'St Kilda chief Michael Nettlefold, who is overseas, had not returned calls from The Age and the AFL indicated it would release a statement regarding the charges later on Tuesday."
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I believe him to be as well based on what I know. Doesn't change anything though. In the eyes of the law, Lovett is innocent as well.magnifisaint wrote:he's still innocentsaint75 wrote:OK, stand corrected again. Not having a good afternoon. Should proof read before I post.Life Long Saint wrote: Gram's case did NOT involve violent behaviour.
In fact, all parties were quite adamant about that point.
Don't treat the Gram case the same as the Lovett or Milne case.
Gram was sacked due to his STALKING of a women. Still was an issue with a women that was unacceptable and was not tolerated.
I hope they don't stand Milne down, however, we could be viewed as hypocritical if we don't. Think he should definitely sit this weekend out.
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Joey was cleared of any wrongdoing pretty early on… the complaint was against Milney not Joey.Hurricane wrote:What new evidence could they possibly have now that they didn't then? Why are they charging Milne and not Joey? Or is Joey going to be charged too? I thought there was a civil case too.
All this seems strange they would be charging him after nearly 10 years and for the record I think its bogus just like I did then.
At the end of the day this tarnishes the reputation of a great football player and the entire club. I really hope its not just political
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There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.tweedaletomanning wrote:Agree. Unless he is doing work on behalf of the clubstinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ofzh.html
'St Kilda chief Michael Nettlefold, who is overseas, had not returned calls from The Age and the AFL indicated it would release a statement regarding the charges later on Tuesday."
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The best outcome for all is that Milney volunteers to stand down until the issue reaches a conclusion.
I hope someone talks sense to him over this.
One would not want to stand down such a good servant of the club against his will, and we have set some sort of precedent over this.
It would be explained that he could not concentrate on his football with this hanging over his head.
Lousy way to end his career, and I would like to see him offered a further one year contract sould the charges not be sustained.
Someone in the DPP and Victorian Police has a lot of explaining to do over this. Without being flippant, a nine year delay is definately someone's c**k-up.
I hope someone talks sense to him over this.
One would not want to stand down such a good servant of the club against his will, and we have set some sort of precedent over this.
It would be explained that he could not concentrate on his football with this hanging over his head.
Lousy way to end his career, and I would like to see him offered a further one year contract sould the charges not be sustained.
Someone in the DPP and Victorian Police has a lot of explaining to do over this. Without being flippant, a nine year delay is definately someone's c**k-up.
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Solar wrote:does anyone have a link to the civil case? Cheers
When I googled this I found a report in the Herald Sun from may 2012 that stated that it was extremely unlikely that the case against Milne would proceed. I cant post the link it wont work. So what has happened in the past 12 months. Why now?
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mullet wrote: When I googled this I found a report in the Herald Sun from may 2012 that stated that it was extremely unlikely that the case against Milne would proceed. I cant post the link it wont work. So what has happened in the past 12 months. Why now?
The official pretense seems to be that the initial investigation was reviewed and found to be "substantially inadequate"
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Yep, that would seem to be the best course of action for all parties.markp wrote:It's not conceivable to me that he can or will still play... he'll be suspended/excused from playing duties till season's end then quietly retire, I'd have thought.
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mullet that's all I can find. As far as I remember there was no civil case.mullet wrote:Solar wrote:does anyone have a link to the civil case? Cheers
When I googled this I found a report in the Herald Sun from may 2012 that stated that it was extremely unlikely that the case against Milne would proceed. I cant post the link it wont work. So what has happened in the past 12 months. Why now?
Interesting that the OPI says that not enough was done to gather all the evidence but would not opine over the weight of this evidence. So the question is what new evidence has been found to lead to these charges. If there is no new evidence then the only other outcome was that the different senior officer in the police ranks and/or prosecutions office has decided there is enough to charge him with. Can Milne sue them if the charges are either dropped or not sustained? Could they be charging him to "make up" for the original stuff up.
Perhaps I need to just let this go. Just makes me sad and feel sick
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Can't believe the talk of "standing down", "suspended" et al.
If he believes himself to be innocent, then if he wishes to play, he plays.
Only he knows the truth!
If he believes himself to be innocent, then if he wishes to play, he plays.
Only he knows the truth!
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How do you think the victim feels?Solar wrote:Perhaps I need to just let this go. Just makes me sad and feel sick
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)