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Re: According to Barrett

Post: # 1343643Post Spinner »

matrix wrote:do we even rate him?
is he that good is he??

or is it just the name that attracts us?


He is good.


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here is the thing , we are only asking questions about him at this stage (i would imagine we would be asking questions of many players at the moment) i think the club are being smart about this we are making it clear we intend to be active in the trade week we are also showing we are looking at multiple options with the Brown and now Frawley links ... my gut feel is we are also looking hard at at least two other players that havent been jumped on by the media as yet ...

i dont really buy into the he wont come to us cause we are on the downward spiral.. in the end its always two factors that cause players to move opportunity and payment terms ... Frawley is a walk up start at any club so opportunity wont come into it , the club that offers the most $ will be his preference look at how Mitch Clarke made it to Melbourne... as for how he gets out of Melbourne , lets be honest if he wants out the Dee's are not going to keep him there against his will not while they are trying to build their list its better to cut their losses and get the best deal for him available ... in my opinion the dees wont really demand draft picks , they have them aswell as a whole chunk of developing young guys i think the deal will hing on a later draft pick and a regular player ... who that is time will tell


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noob wrote:Need to look at something more realistic. I'd be furious if they gave up a top pick for him.
If we used pick 3 on Frawley I would go absolutely ballistic.
We need that pick for a young gun midfielder.
The reason our defence looks bad atm is because we get so murdered in the middle the ball is going down inside the opposition 50 a million times a qtr.
Midfield should be priority 1, 2 and 3.

But lets say we throw pick 21 at Frawley. Pick 3 at a young gun mid.
That Frees up Rhys maybe which leaves us with a spare ruckman to trade?

Would we trade Macca to GWS for a first rounder (to use on another young gun mid or a direct swap with a GWS gun mid)?

under that scenario we end up with 2 gun midfielders under 21 + frawley.
we then use Hickey/Rhys ruck combo (Rhys can float fwd) and with Lewis Pierce as the young ruckman in training.


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Our first round is untouchable, non-negotiable.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
noob wrote:Need to look at something more realistic. I'd be furious if they gave up a top pick for him.
If we used pick 3 on Frawley I would go absolutely ballistic.
We need that pick for a young gun midfielder.
The reason our defence looks bad atm is because we get so murdered in the middle the ball is going down inside the opposition 50 a million times a qtr.
Midfield should be priority 1, 2 and 3.

But lets say we throw pick 21 at Frawley. Pick 3 at a young gun mid.
That Frees up Rhys maybe which leaves us with a spare ruckman to trade?

Would we trade Macca to GWS for a first rounder (to use on another young gun mid or a direct swap with a GWS gun mid)?

under that scenario we end up with 2 gun midfielders under 21 + frawley.
we then use Hickey/Rhys ruck combo (Rhys can float fwd) and with Lewis Pierce as the young ruckman in training.
I agree that our first pick should be on a young gun. I am totally against trading McEvoy to anywhere as we are short of ruckmen anyway. He is rated the second best ruckman in the league according to some people who know more than a lot of us.


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Being 'interested' in someone doesnt mean much. Im interested in Jessica Alba for instance.
The issue with the draft and contracts and trades make it highly unlikely we will recruit a big fish.


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I trust in the Pelch... I think he will do a deal that swaps picks around, so we will maybe loose an early pick but get the tigers early pick as well
Has already done it for us and personally I am happy with the way things are going. ( draft wise.. that is)


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busso mick wrote:
I agree that our first pick should be on a young gun. I am totally against trading McEvoy to anywhere as we are short of ruckmen anyway. He is rated the second best ruckman in the league according to some people who know more than a lot of us.
I love Big Ben, but would trade him for the right deal.

2nd in the league? a bit rich.


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Rosco wrote:
busso mick wrote:
I agree that our first pick should be on a young gun. I am totally against trading McEvoy to anywhere as we are short of ruckmen anyway. He is rated the second best ruckman in the league according to some people who know more than a lot of us.
I love Big Ben, but would trade him for the right deal.

2nd in the league? a bit rich.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/stats/player- ... ition/ruck

Take those rankings however you like, but good ruckmen are in short supply.


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Re: According to Barrett

Post: # 1343852Post remboy »

I heard Pelchen interviewed earlier in the year and he seemed to indicate then that we wouldn't be looking to trade picks this year given it was the first uncompromised draft for a few years. I'd be amazed if he even contemplated giving up our first pick.


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Look this idea that we are only interested in 10 year players is ridiculous. We need to trade to get players of a range of experience and skill. If you use the start again and only get young draft picks philosophy then explain to me how we are going to compete with only 1 high draft pick whereas GC and GWS who are on the way up have about 15 to 20 of the best youth going around. If we only go by the draft approach we are screwed, and Watters/Pelchen won't let that happen (if they have any sense at all). Yes we need to attract guys like Frawley and let's hope that the powers that be can do this. Only getting young recruits will see us go to the bottom of the ladder for as long as you can imagine. You need a blend - look at Sydney and Geelong and their recruiting.


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Pick 3...Tom Boyd please, then mids


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Is he out of contract next year?


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busso mick wrote:
Rosco wrote:
busso mick wrote:
I agree that our first pick should be on a young gun. I am totally against trading McEvoy to anywhere as we are short of ruckmen anyway. He is rated the second best ruckman in the league according to some people who know more than a lot of us.
I love Big Ben, but would trade him for the right deal.

2nd in the league? a bit rich.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/stats/player- ... ition/ruck

Take those rankings however you like, but good ruckmen are in short supply.
Great player, not a great ruckman. But rucking is overrated, mids more important.


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Noone is untradeable. I doubt we will trade Ben out, but if its for pick 1, it must be considered. Or if its for Adams and a end of first round compo pick then it would be a no brainer.

If something is on the table, these days noone is untouchable


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St Ick wrote:Noone is untradeable. I doubt we will trade Ben out, but if its for pick 1, it must be considered. Or if its for Adams and a end of first round compo pick then it would be a no brainer.

If something is on the table, these days noone is untouchable

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Re: According to Barrett

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Sick of people asking why would Frawley come to Stkfc.He has barracked for Stkilda all his life has family connection at the club has openly confided to friends that he wants out ,has wanted out for 18 months.
Would expect Melbourne will let him go for something rather than nothing.


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lloyd21 wrote:Sick of people asking why would Frawley come to Stkfc.He has barracked for Stkilda all his life has family connection at the club has openly confided to friends that he wants out ,has wanted out for 18 months.
Would expect Melbourne will let him go for something rather than nothing.

Maybe the biggest rubbish I have heard as a reason he would come to us.


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CURLY wrote:Demons may have little choice to trade in fear of losing him for nothing at the end of next season.
Don't know that he would qualify for FA at end of next year anyway?


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If Frawley went to a club that was not near the bottom, he may not earn many senior games.
Wouldn't that affect his payments a great deal? You get paid less for VFL games, right?
So he would go where he has a good chance of being in the best 22, and because of our muppets, he would get a game all the time.
At Carlton or Essendon it would be much harder to get selected.


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He'd cost us draft picks and is a couple of years older than an ideal recruit. He'd only have one or two years of his best footy left in him by the time we're challenging for the finals again. Melbourne could get far more for him than pick 21 and pick 3 is too valuable to us. For the love of satan I hope we don't try to trade pick 3 for two later first round picks and use one on Frawley.


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WellardSaint wrote:If Frawley went to a club that was not near the bottom, he may not earn many senior games.
Wouldn't that affect his payments a great deal? You get paid less for VFL games, right?
So he would go where he has a good chance of being in the best 22, and because of our muppets, he would get a game all the time.
At Carlton or Essendon it would be much harder to get selected.

I very much doubt his contract would be effected if he plays VFL.


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WellardSaint wrote:If Frawley went to a club that was not near the bottom, he may not earn many senior games.
Wouldn't that affect his payments a great deal? You get paid less for VFL games, right?
So he would go where he has a good chance of being in the best 22, and because of our muppets, he would get a game all the time.
At Carlton or Essendon it would be much harder to get selected.
He's an All Australian full back. Did you realize this fact?


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Frawley would be a walk up start at EVERY other AFL club.

Would be close to StKs best player

Pick 21, Pick 39, Farren Ray, NDS

Pick 40, Pick 58, James Frawley, Jack Watts

Sam Gilbert.... Any young player from GC/GWS

Tom Ledger..... Pick a fringe kid at Freo or late pick 55-70


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BigMart wrote:Frawley would be a walk up start at EVERY other AFL club.

Would be close to StKs best player

Pick 21, Pick 39, Farren Ray, NDS

Pick 40, Pick 58, James Frawley, Jack Watts

Sam Gilbert.... Any young player from GC/GWS

Tom Ledger..... Pick a fringe kid at Freo or late pick 55-70

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