You'll just have to trust the club that he's rightTrue Believer wrote:Am surprised Hickey got up for this game.....looked to be limping badly by the end of last week.SainterK wrote:Armo wright ferguson
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Good.SainterK wrote:Armo wright ferguson
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I agree Clarky. But if we are bottom 4 for 2013-15 as I expect then that means at least 6 cracks at sub-#25 draft picks and top picks in the PSD which should give us a decent crack at rebuilding the list to go back up again. What is imperative is that we do not through the baby out with the bathwater and do the Melbourne-style double-dip.clarky449 wrote:Why do some posters think that by just playing the kids this year, this will be the worst year out of the rebuild? I have fears for the next 3 years. Just because we get games into these kids doesn't mean next year is going to be any better.
By 2016-17 Schneider, Milney and Lenny will certainly be gone; Rooey, Chips and Dempster will probably be gone, but Dal and Joey will likely be entering their final season or two. That gives us some hope of having a crack at finals 2016/17 though beyond that all will be in whether we have drafted, recruited and developed well enough during the period 2010-17.
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8856brother wrote:Bingo Clarky. This is the legacy left by your lovechild to our great club.clarky449 wrote:Why do some posters think that by just playing the kids this year, this will be the worst year out of the rebuild? I have fears for the next 3 years. Just because we get games into these kids doesn't mean next year is going to be any better.
No it surely can't be....it's all Watters fault we don't have any good kids between 18-24....
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dragit wrote:You'll just have to trust the club that he's rightTrue Believer wrote:Am surprised Hickey got up for this game.....looked to be limping badly by the end of last week.SainterK wrote:Armo wright ferguson
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I do, they've been managing for weeks. Didn't say I didn't believe it, just said I am surprised.
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Lighten up will ya', I was trying to make light of our silly argument.True Believer wrote: I do, they've been managing for weeks. Didn't say I didn't believe it, just said I am surprised.
I agree about Hickey, has been limping the whole year, mustn't be too bad I guess.
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Limping??
He just runs that way I thought?!
I thought he looked like a Gumby in the intraclub because of his gait....
He just runs that way I thought?!
I thought he looked like a Gumby in the intraclub because of his gait....
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I think anyone that thinks 2016 we may have a chance of finals is seriously deluded.Richter wrote:I agree Clarky. But if we are bottom 4 for 2013-15 as I expect then that means at least 6 cracks at sub-#25 draft picks and top picks in the PSD which should give us a decent crack at rebuilding the list to go back up again. What is imperative is that we do not through the baby out with the bathwater and do the Melbourne-style double-dip.clarky449 wrote:Why do some posters think that by just playing the kids this year, this will be the worst year out of the rebuild? I have fears for the next 3 years. Just because we get games into these kids doesn't mean next year is going to be any better.
By 2016-17 Schneider, Milney and Lenny will certainly be gone; Rooey, Chips and Dempster will probably be gone, but Dal and Joey will likely be entering their final season or two. That gives us some hope of having a crack at finals 2016/17 though beyond that all will be in whether we have drafted, recruited and developed well enough during the period 2010-17.
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saintspremiers wrote:I think anyone that thinks 2016 we may have a chance of finals is seriously deluded.Richter wrote:I agree Clarky. But if we are bottom 4 for 2013-15 as I expect then that means at least 6 cracks at sub-#25 draft picks and top picks in the PSD which should give us a decent crack at rebuilding the list to go back up again. What is imperative is that we do not through the baby out with the bathwater and do the Melbourne-style double-dip.clarky449 wrote:Why do some posters think that by just playing the kids this year, this will be the worst year out of the rebuild? I have fears for the next 3 years. Just because we get games into these kids doesn't mean next year is going to be any better.
By 2016-17 Schneider, Milney and Lenny will certainly be gone; Rooey, Chips and Dempster will probably be gone, but Dal and Joey will likely be entering their final season or two. That gives us some hope of having a crack at finals 2016/17 though beyond that all will be in whether we have drafted, recruited and developed well enough during the period 2010-17.
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Sheesh I had to look twice, I wrote a similar thing a few weeks ago!Richter wrote:clarky449 wrote:By 2016-17 Schneider, Milney and Lenny will certainly be gone; Rooey, Chips and Dempster will probably be gone, but Dal and Joey will likely be entering their final season or two. That gives us some hope of having a crack at finals 2016/17 though beyond that all will be in whether we have drafted, recruited and developed well enough during the period 2010-17.
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So that makes this the youngest team so far this year, if they line up as named. A bit younger again than R6, differences being Hickey, Ray, Webster, Gwilt, Ferguson in for Jones, Gilbert, Koschitzke, Murdoch, Saunders.SainterK wrote:Armo wright ferguson
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To say im thrilled with the final team is a total understatement.
Someone has their s*** together at the selection table at last.
BANG BANG
Someone has their s*** together at the selection table at last.
BANG BANG
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Now, that is rich.saintspremiers wrote:I think anyone that thinks 2016 we may have a chance of finals is seriously deluded.Richter wrote:I agree Clarky. But if we are bottom 4 for 2013-15 as I expect then that means at least 6 cracks at sub-#25 draft picks and top picks in the PSD which should give us a decent crack at rebuilding the list to go back up again. What is imperative is that we do not through the baby out with the bathwater and do the Melbourne-style double-dip.clarky449 wrote:Why do some posters think that by just playing the kids this year, this will be the worst year out of the rebuild? I have fears for the next 3 years. Just because we get games into these kids doesn't mean next year is going to be any better.
By 2016-17 Schneider, Milney and Lenny will certainly be gone; Rooey, Chips and Dempster will probably be gone, but Dal and Joey will likely be entering their final season or two. That gives us some hope of having a crack at finals 2016/17 though beyond that all will be in whether we have drafted, recruited and developed well enough during the period 2010-17.
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Agreed. Still not perfect but finally they're phasing out the old duds and putting a bit of emphasis on skills and smarts while getting the balance about right.Hurricane wrote:To say im thrilled with the final team is a total understatement.
Someone has their s*** together at the selection table at last.
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door closes on daw...for this week at least......still wish that the saints had drafted him.......congrats jackson...hope it's the first of many games in saints colours.....
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He came off at the end of the game for Sandy the other week and you would have thought he would have missed the next week given how badly he was limping. The next week he played seniors. It's obviously something they can manage, but given our history with guys like Ball, X Clarke, Kosi etc, I really worry that we'll ruin young blokes bodies and prevent them realising their full potential.dragit wrote:Lighten up will ya', I was trying to make light of our silly argument.True Believer wrote: I do, they've been managing for weeks. Didn't say I didn't believe it, just said I am surprised.
I agree about Hickey, has been limping the whole year, mustn't be too bad I guess.
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If were making an excuse for the player for being injured, we are pointing the finger at the club....
Apologists are confusing themselves....
He is fit.... Which means he is struggling
Or unfit.... Which means the club is struggling to manage
In our position should we be 'managing' (code word for risking) players anyway?!
Apologists are confusing themselves....
He is fit.... Which means he is struggling
Or unfit.... Which means the club is struggling to manage
In our position should we be 'managing' (code word for risking) players anyway?!
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We need some sort of experience in the backline for organisational purposes.BigMart wrote:If were making an excuse for the player for being injured, we are pointing the finger at the club....
Apologists are confusing themselves....
He is fit.... Which means he is struggling
Or unfit.... Which means the club is struggling to manage
In our position should we be 'managing' (code word for risking) players anyway?!
He's definitely not 100%. Against Adelaide he looked like an 80 year old getting out of a beanbag when getting back to his feet.
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Bite my bag you self important flog.BigMart wrote:If were making an excuse for the player for being injured, we are pointing the finger at the club....
Apologists are confusing themselves....
He is fit.... Which means he is struggling
Or unfit.... Which means the club is struggling to manage
In our position should we be 'managing' (code word for risking) players anyway?!
Managing does not mean "risking". You've got a piss poor grasp of English for a teacher. It means controlling his training loads, it means gathering medical input on whether his injury would be exacerbated by continuing to play, it may mean managing his TOG to a lower level.
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tony74 wrote:Training tomorrow morning - all will be revealed
any update, or did they train indoors due to the weather???
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Hurricane wrote:To say im thrilled with the final team is a total understatement.
Someone has their s*** together at the selection table at last.
BANG BANG
why? please explain