MRP

[WellardSaint]

waite got 1 week but he will probably challenge and get off

If the challenge fails does he get more? OK it doesn't matter as long as he's out for our game.

[SaintTom]

ahh curly always an amusing read - the only "accidental bump to the head" was when you were a wee baby...

So you honestly believe Kosi saw Elliot coming and thought Im going to knock him out? It was a accidental knock to the head.

Yep, I do.

[CURLY]

People get confused. Yes Kosi was alway going to get weeks. No it wasn't a deliberate hit to the head.

Looked pretty darned deliberate to me.

The bump was delibrate no one is disputing that. The arm glancing his head I dont beleive was.

[plugger66]

People get confused. Yes Kosi was alway going to get weeks. No it wasn't a deliberate hit to the head.

Looked pretty darned deliberate to me.

The bump was delibrate no one is disputing that. The arm glancing his head I dont beleive was.

How come you never told us how Kosi could get more if the tribunal thought it was deliberate to the head. Is it because he cant?

[CURLY]

Goodes got three for a delibrate hit so clearly you can.

[plugger66]

Goodes got three for a delibrate hit so clearly you can.

Curly just admit Kosi could not get more if the tribunal thought it was a deliberate hit to the head. Dont tell us about others. Back it up with points on Kosi.

[CURLY]

Goodes got three for a delibrate hit so clearly you can.

Curly just admit Kosi could not get more if the tribunal thought it was a deliberate hit to the head. Dont tell us about others. Back it up with points on Kosi.

When I join the MRP I will give a full run down.

[Life Long Saint]

Goodes got three for a delibrate hit so clearly you can.

When?

[CURLY]

Goodes got three for a delibrate hit so clearly you can.

When?

When he hit Caddy last week.

[Life Long Saint]

Right...Brett Goodes (still taking some time to process that there is another Goodes)...

Here is the MRP report for that incident...

Brett Goodes, Western Bulldogs, has been charged with a level three engaging in rough conduct offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for engaging in rough conduct against Josh Caddy, Geelong Cats, during the second quarter of the Round Five match between the Western Bulldogs and the Geelong Cats, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday April 27, 2013.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Cats Football Club, the incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

Here is the one for Kosi...

Justin Koschitzke, St Kilda, has been charged with a level four striking offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for striking Jamie Elliott, Collingwood, during the second quarter of the round six match between St Kilda and Collingwood, played at Etihad Stadium on Friday May 3, 2013.

In summary, due to his previous poor record, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Collingwood Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a level four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of three matches suspended within the last two years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 357.50 demerit points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 268.13 points and a two-match sanction.

You are comparing apples with oranges.
Goodes was charged with a level 3 engaging rough conduct offence. Kosi was charged with a level four striking offence.
The AFL clearly view the rough conduct charge more seriously than striking because the two incidents drew the same number of demerit points despite Kosi having the higher activation points (7).
Kosi is lucky that his charge wansn't engaging in rough conduct or else it would have been another week on the sidelines.

[CURLY]

Right...Brett Goodes (still taking some time to process that there is another Goodes)...

Here is the MRP report for that incident...

Brett Goodes, Western Bulldogs, has been charged with a level three engaging in rough conduct offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for engaging in rough conduct against Josh Caddy, Geelong Cats, during the second quarter of the Round Five match between the Western Bulldogs and the Geelong Cats, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday April 27, 2013.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Cats Football Club, the incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

Here is the one for Kosi...

Justin Koschitzke, St Kilda, has been charged with a level four striking offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for striking Jamie Elliott, Collingwood, during the second quarter of the round six match between St Kilda and Collingwood, played at Etihad Stadium on Friday May 3, 2013.

In summary, due to his previous poor record, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Collingwood Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a level four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of three matches suspended within the last two years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 357.50 demerit points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 268.13 points and a two-match sanction.

You are comparing apples with oranges.
Goodes was charged with a level 3 engaging rough conduct offence. Kosi was charged with a level four striking offence.
The AFL clearly view the rough conduct charge more seriously than striking because the two incidents drew the same number of demerit points despite Kosi having the higher activation points (7).
Kosi is lucky that his charge wansn't engaging in rough conduct or else it would have been another week on the sidelines.

Whats the differance between rough conduct and striking? Anyone.

[Life Long Saint]

Whats the differance between rough conduct and striking? Anyone.

From the 2012 MRP booklet

Rough conduct is interpreted widely in relation to any contact which is unreasonable or unnecessary in the circumstances. It is a Reportable Offence to intentionally, recklessly or negligently engage in rough conduct against an opponent which in the circumstances is unreasonable.

Striking, kicking, etc, therefore are interpreted in accordance with their commonly understood meaning. A strike would usually be by hand, arm or even head and will generally not apply to other contact using the body. A kick is generally applied to contact by foot or leg. A strike or kick, as opposed to an attempt to strike or kick, requires more than negligible impact. Where a strike, for example, does not make more than negligible contact, it is still open to the Match Review Panel to charge a player for attempting to strike where it is satisfied that notwithstanding the result, the intention was to connect with greater force. All attempts to strike, kick or trip shall be allocated 80 demerit points.

[CURLY]

Whats the differance between rough conduct and striking? Anyone.

From the 2012 MRP booklet

Rough conduct is interpreted widely in relation to any contact which is unreasonable or unnecessary in the circumstances. It is a Reportable Offence to intentionally, recklessly or negligently engage in rough conduct against an opponent which in the circumstances is unreasonable.

Striking, kicking, etc, therefore are interpreted in accordance with their commonly understood meaning. A strike would usually be by hand, arm or even head and will generally not apply to other contact using the body. A kick is generally applied to contact by foot or leg. A strike or kick, as opposed to an attempt to strike or kick, requires more than negligible impact. Where a strike, for example, does not make more than negligible contact, it is still open to the Match Review Panel to charge a player for attempting to strike where it is satisfied that notwithstanding the result, the intention was to connect with greater force. All attempts to strike, kick or trip shall be allocated 80 demerit points.

There is your answer p66.

[WellardSaint]

Rough conduct is very very broad.
From the wording, it would appear that the Judd Chicken Wing
(we should rename him Joel Madden because of the chicken and also because he is that K*nt From Carlton)
that Chicken Wing would have been "rough conduct".
The two terms are not mutually exclusive, are they.
Kind of like saying running a red light could attract a charge of either dangerous driving or disobeying a signal.
Look, if someone ran a red light and caused a massive accident, they should get pinged under both, right?
Makes sense, you know it does.

[Life Long Saint]

The Judd charge was misconduct.
Akin to what Milne did and what Judd had previously done to Rischitelli.

[8856brother]

Right...Brett Goodes (still taking some time to process that there is another Goodes)...

Here is the MRP report for that incident...

Brett Goodes, Western Bulldogs, has been charged with a level three engaging in rough conduct offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for engaging in rough conduct against Josh Caddy, Geelong Cats, during the second quarter of the Round Five match between the Western Bulldogs and the Geelong Cats, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday April 27, 2013.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Cats Football Club, the incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

Here is the one for Kosi...

Justin Koschitzke, St Kilda, has been charged with a level four striking offence (325 demerit points, three-match sanction) for striking Jamie Elliott, Collingwood, during the second quarter of the round six match between St Kilda and Collingwood, played at Etihad Stadium on Friday May 3, 2013.

In summary, due to his previous poor record, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Collingwood Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a level four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of three matches suspended within the last two years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 357.50 demerit points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 268.13 points and a two-match sanction.

You are comparing apples with oranges.
Goodes was charged with a level 3 engaging rough conduct offence. Kosi was charged with a level four striking offence.
The AFL clearly view the rough conduct charge more seriously than striking because the two incidents drew the same number of demerit points despite Kosi having the higher activation points (7).
Kosi is lucky that his charge wansn't engaging in rough conduct or else it would have been another week on the sidelines.

Whats the differance between rough conduct and striking? Anyone.

MRP generally use the rock, paper and scissor method to decide. When 2 rocks come up they get that cofused they just toss a coin. I have a lot less faith in them that p66 has.

[Eastern]

Looking at the Kosi incident I thought he might get 4, down to 3, so 3 down to 2 is a one week bonus. Forget whether it was reckless or deliberate, they should have a classification for dumb & stupid and his actions on Friday Night would fall into BOTH !!

[lummox]

Somewhat off topic, but just in case any of you haven't seen Franklin's bizarre neck-breaking headlock.

What the f*ck does he think he's playing, WWE smackdown ???




And to think he got off. This guy needs to become the mascot of a range of nonstick cookware. He squirms out of everything.

[Greg T]

Somewhat off topic, but just in case any of you haven't seen Franklin's bizarre neck-breaking headlock.

What the f*ck does he think he's playing, WWE smackdown ???




And to think he got off. This guy needs to become the mascot of a range of nonstick cookware. He squirms out of everything.

That is just absurd isn't it?
Funny how that wasn't played a thousand times