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Frees for and against

Post: # 1325502Post borderbarry »

Maybe we should make a sticky of this. Record each weeks frees.
St.Kilda 11 Sydney 18. plus 2 50's. Did we get any 50's?

Last week was worse.


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Please but add 'goals from frees' to the tally. We get nailed on this every game.


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We have been on the negative every game................

technique problems???

particulary in backline.


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Post: # 1325514Post ShanghaiSaint »

suss wrote:Please but add 'goals from frees' to the tally. We get nailed on this every game.
there the ones that F%^k us... tonight had some shockers but the tigers game really took the cake.


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Post: # 1325516Post ShanghaiSaint »

borderbarry wrote:Maybe we should make a sticky of this. Record each weeks frees.
St.Kilda 11 Sydney 18. plus 2 50's. Did we get any 50's?

Last week was worse.
yeh we did.


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Post: # 1325526Post Teflon »

suss wrote:Please but add 'goals from frees' to the tally. We get nailed on this every game.
THIS is the one Im after.


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Post: # 1325528Post Greg T »

suss wrote:Please but add 'goals from frees' to the tally. We get nailed on this every game.
Absolutely ,that's always the killer.when do we get them like that? We don't.
Just like that mongrel Jack r from rich.Another game killer


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Post: # 1325535Post CURLY »

Just show the tackle on Armstrong the umpire said was in the back the show Ross getting driven into te ground and payed as holding the ball.


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Post: # 1325537Post Teflon »

where canwe get goals from free kicks?


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Their first 3 scoring shots were from frees. We had none yet again for the entire game. Sort out the rucking in the backline ffs, it's killing us.


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8856brother wrote:Their first 3 scoring shots were from frees. We had none yet again for the entire game. Sort out the rucking in the backline ffs, it's killing us.
They were just pathetic calls from the umpire. Twice Stanley engaged the Sydney ruckman and immediately had the free called against him because McEvoy was also in the vicinity. Stanley is a much better tap ruckman than McEvoy and it's perfectly possible that he is instructed to take the hitouts in the backline. The umpired guessed both times and paid the frees against us.


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mad saint guy wrote:
8856brother wrote:Their first 3 scoring shots were from frees. We had none yet again for the entire game. Sort out the rucking in the backline ffs, it's killing us.
They were just pathetic calls from the umpire. Twice Stanley engaged the Sydney ruckman and immediately had the free called against him because McEvoy was also in the vicinity. Stanley is a much better tap ruckman than McEvoy and it's perfectly possible that he is instructed to take the hitouts in the backline. The umpired guessed both times and paid the frees against us.

It has nothing to do with who is the better ruckman. Stanley blocked their ruckman and this is my point. we cant blame umpires for the amount of frees if they are correct. The last free was 100% correct everyday of the week.


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plugger66 wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:
8856brother wrote:Their first 3 scoring shots were from frees. We had none yet again for the entire game. Sort out the rucking in the backline ffs, it's killing us.
They were just pathetic calls from the umpire. Twice Stanley engaged the Sydney ruckman and immediately had the free called against him because McEvoy was also in the vicinity. Stanley is a much better tap ruckman than McEvoy and it's perfectly possible that he is instructed to take the hitouts in the backline. The umpired guessed both times and paid the frees against us.

It has nothing to do with who is the better ruckman. Stanley blocked their ruckman and this is my point. we cant blame umpires for the amount of frees if they are correct. The last free was 100% correct everyday of the week.
So you're allowed third man up as long as he's not another tall person. :roll:


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8856brother wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:
They were just pathetic calls from the umpire. Twice Stanley engaged the Sydney ruckman and immediately had the free called against him because McEvoy was also in the vicinity. Stanley is a much better tap ruckman than McEvoy and it's perfectly possible that he is instructed to take the hitouts in the backline. The umpired guessed both times and paid the frees against us.

It has nothing to do with who is the better ruckman. Stanley blocked their ruckman and this is my point. we cant blame umpires for the amount of frees if they are correct. The last free was 100% correct everyday of the week.
So you're allowed third man up as long as he's not another tall person. :roll:

Your allowed 100 up in the ruck but you cant block the other ruckman.


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Post: # 1325615Post gringo »

What shat me was that they would let several go then pull out soft ones then ignore several more similar ones. Every contest can be an infringement in afl. They need to leave the game to run and teach them that frees are not just pulled out. Let them see the out come of a free kick in front of goal and what it can mean in a game.


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Post: # 1325621Post Jacks Back »

plugger66 wrote:Your allowed 100 up in the ruck but you cant block the other ruckman.
You can engage with the ruckman and take front position if you're the opposing ruckman. At virtually every ruck contest someone will be pushing or shepparding the other ruckman. Macca was 3rd man up.


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Post: # 1325626Post mad saint guy »

Jacks Back wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Your allowed 100 up in the ruck but you cant block the other ruckman.
You can engage with the ruckman and take front position if you're the opposing ruckman. At virtually every ruck contest someone will be pushing or shepparding the other ruckman. Macca was 3rd man up.
Exactly. There was no illegal push or hold, the umpire paid the free kicks for a third man illegally engaging the Sydney ruckman when Stanley was actually just contesting.


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Jacks Back wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Your allowed 100 up in the ruck but you cant block the other ruckman.
You can engage with the ruckman and take front position if you're the opposing ruckman. At virtually every ruck contest someone will be pushing or shepparding the other ruckman. Macca was 3rd man up.

You can engage but you cant run in front and block which is what Stanley. I didnt pay the free by the way and it will be cleared as 100% correct but then people will say the AFL is lying.


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Post: # 1325629Post 8856brother »

Jacks Back wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Your allowed 100 up in the ruck but you cant block the other ruckman.
You can engage with the ruckman and take front position if you're the opposing ruckman. At virtually every ruck contest someone will be pushing or shepparding the other ruckman. Macca was 3rd man up.
Bingo.


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Post: # 1325657Post Jacks Back »

Free Kick Counts this year:

round-for-against
1- 23- 15
2- 15- 23
3- 14- 26
4- 22- 28
5- 11- 18

Totals 85-110


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Post: # 1325680Post Freebird »

Frees in forward 50: for/against?


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borderbarry wrote:Maybe we should make a sticky of this. Record each weeks frees.
St.Kilda 11 Sydney 18. plus 2 50's. Did we get any 50's?

Last week was worse.
11 -19 according to the afl....


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CURLY wrote:Just show the tackle on Armstrong the umpire said was in the back the show Ross getting driven into te ground and payed as holding the ball.
that's two i thought sucked...plus the shirt front to dal way after he got rid of the ball...there were others too.....kosi and stanley should know better....their errors cost us two goals.....add the one taken off us and we were in with a show.....


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Post: # 1325691Post Verdun66 »

The rub of the green always seems to go with side on top. Happens in cricket as well, which makes the slow death towards a loss even harder to take.

I am against the umps as much as the next Saints person, but we got away with a few towards the end. Maybe their bloke was ducking, but we did get away with those. Sadly didn't make up for the earlier soft ones that seem to keep them in the game and then kick away.


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Post: # 1325693Post suss »

We got paid a 50. That was a novelty. Maybe we'll get another one next year too.


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