Round 4 Selection Dilemmas

[Cairnsman]

Given that status, I would not have any of Blake, Maister (his hands are just not clean enough by a long, long way), Geary (tries hard, wins some ball but has no composure with it which inflicts just too much damage) or Milne (specialist forward pocket with shocking disposal if forced to the mid field rotation and nil defensive skills).

I'm not sure I understand. Who's in and out, and what's your preferred team for next week?

I'm starting to agree re Geary. This might upset a few but he could almost be worthwhile moving on, would he have any trade value? Not sure a developing team should be looking to carry too many players with the same flaws...Jack I hope you improve too.

Gee I've turned green with envy a few times watching Caddy play his first few games for Geelong.

Also aggree Maister. It looks like he doesn't mind crashing the packs so maybe that is why he is being kept in and possibly seen as a harder body up forward while they develop a couple others in the forward line.

I think everyone agrees Blake is on borrowed time, even the man himself but the teams has got to have some balance of older bigger bodies for the next season or two, although I'd be surprised if he is going around next year.

[plugger66]

Have to go with Hickey - and McEvoy.

That is why we recruited Hickey.

We also recruited Lee with a high Draft Pick - so have to go with him also (and he showed a bit).

The number of "small forwards" is for questioning even allowing for the goals each kicked yesterday (against GWS remember).

It is a matter of who of Dennis-Lane, Schnieder, Milne, Milera or Saad - but they will not all play and I would prefer only 2 to play INCLUDING that they can impact on the mid-field rotations.

I have said for some time that our current status as a developing team means that we can not afford "specialist forward pockets" (even allowing for averaging 2 goals a game!) because our mid-field rotation options do not run that deep - and need to be further developed.

Given that status, I would not have any of Blake, Maister (his hands are just not clean enough by a long, long way), Geary (tries hard, wins some ball but has no composure with it which inflicts just too much damage) or Milne (specialist forward pocket with shocking disposal if forced to the mid field rotation and nil defensive skills).

Jones is on the radar - and needs to "shut down" big names week in and week out to be retained.

The positives so far are the performances of Stanley in defence, McEvoy (with Hickey to assist), Armitage and Steven plus Newnes (unfortunately concussed early yesterday), Lee, Siposs and Wright.

I do not know why Simpkin is languishing at Sandringham - and, at Sandringham, performances will be monitored each week including particularly those yet to debut at AFL level - and Koschitzke.

The draw, once again, tells against us including attracting memberships if we lose a few, which we have.

The lack of winning momentum plus a bye and playing in Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and New Zealand over the early stages of a season does St Kilda FC no favours at all.

It is interesting that there is now talk about our recruiting practices under Lyon - and, to boot, we jettisoned all of the younger selections untested because they were never given opportunity.

If you draft kids, you at the very least give them an opportunity over 1, 2 or 3 years.

They were obviously (you would hope) drafted on some credentials.

And we have the experienced players we have particularly Riewoldt, Fisher and Koschitzke in key positions.

You are hilarious. For 3 years you wanted Milne out and he has been AA 2 years in a row and now you want Geary out. Arent you the person who also said cahill would replace Milne 2 years ago. You need to let it go and start watching the game. Credibility isnt good when you say the same thing for 3 years and are proven wrong each year. As i said 3 years ago you will be proven right with Milne eventually but in the mean time it is a ridiculous call with the geary one now leading in stupidity.

[happy feet]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

[plugger66]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

You are right. I am sorry I stuck up for Milney in the last 3 years and now Geary. How silly of me. I have an idea. Put me on you foe list or actually write something to do with the thread. maybe a bit hard but surely you can manage. And if it was someone I respected I may have a break. You well you never say anything.

[saintsRrising]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

You are right. I am sorry I stuck up for Milney in the last 3 years and now Geary. How silly of me. I have an idea. Put me on you foe list or actually write something to do with the thread. maybe a bit hard but surely you can manage. And if it was someone I respected I may have a break. You well you never say anything.

P66, as I am sure you are aware, it is not your comments and differing view to the OP on Milne, Geary etc as all football discussion is welcome....but rather your attack on the poster that is being referenced.

Personal attacks from you are so frequent that for 99% on the forum it is just sheer monotony. Any wit, or comedic value, that they may have had are long, long, past as you just roll them out time after time after time.

You have some good football points to make whether I personally agree with any of them or not, so please do yourself, and the forum, a favour by making your football points without the constant need to put someone down.

If you then have the occasionally crack at someone, it may then have some affect.

Meanwhile you are just the grumpy guy in Up waiting to be rescued from your own self-inflicted sourness by the boy scout.

Lighten up and smell the roses....

[rexy]

Not sure we can play Hickey and Mac until Hickey is more useful forward!
Stanley definitely needs to settle as a defender!
Simpkin should play in Blakes place!

I would try Blake as a forward changing in the ruck in place of Maister or Lee! Don't know if it will work but I believe as a forward he will get to enough contests to at least compete!

Need Ross or Ledger to push into Jones spot, Ross looking more likely!

Sippos has not been promising this year IMO!

Liked the look of Wright and believe Geary is easily best 22 at this stage!

[kimberly saint]

Geary wont be traded , he would have little value at a guess fare more value in keeping him. And cant for the life of me see the value in playing blake in forward line changing ruck , dropping lee . We need to develop these blokes , blake is yesterdays news with no disrespect to him. Big ben can ruck for 80% game with lee and maisters giving him a cut.

If we get slaughtered for that 20% time they ruck so be it, i want see lee get sum game time forward and simpkin develop down back. Short term pain long term gain

[gringo]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

You are right. I am sorry I stuck up for Milney in the last 3 years and now Geary. How silly of me. I have an idea. Put me on you foe list or actually write something to do with the thread. maybe a bit hard but surely you can manage. And if it was someone I respected I may have a break. You well you never say anything.

It's kind of like someone standing too close and yelling when you respond. Just try not to ridicule people and you won't give people the s***s. I agree with what you say but you don't have to play the man. He doesn't rate Milney- you don't rate Kosi who cares it's an opinion.

You said you thought Eddy would win a Brownlow, I thought Goddard and blake wouldn't get to 100 games between them. Everyone calls them wrong sometimes.

[kimberly saint]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

You are right. I am sorry I stuck up for Milney in the last 3 years and now Geary. How silly of me. I have an idea. Put me on you foe list or actually write something to do with the thread. maybe a bit hard but surely you can manage. And if it was someone I respected I may have a break. You well you never say anything.

It's kind of like someone standing too close and yelling when you respond. Just try not to ridicule people and you won't give people the s***s. I agree with what you say but you don't have to play the man. He doesn't rate Milney- you don't rate Kosi who cares it's an opinion.

You said you thought Eddy would win a Brownlow, I thought Goddard and blake wouldn't get to 100 games between them. Everyone calls them wrong sometimes.

which eddy to win brownlow ????

[Old Mate]

Mac & Hickey too one dimension to be in the same 22....And Blake not up to it makes for a conundrum.

In: Ross, Siposs & Simpkin
Out: Milne, Newnes (injured?) & Blake

I'm maintaining we cannot keep Milne, Milera & Saad in the same team. Milera offers versitility & Saad is the future (& now), Milne looks out of shape and it's showing in his performances.

Maister to give Ben a chop out....Stanley preferred back but there as backup in case of injury.

[BigMart]

We're not picking a number 1 Ruckman..... Not sure where Hickey even fits... Unless Ben is injured

Master cannot be considered a Ruck option... Surely...

He's the second fwd... What happens to the fwd structure if he goes up?? Ben can't run 15m on the ball and be expected to roll forward and compete up fwd.
Also, what if he's opposed to a Ryder...

We need a forward Ruck....

Or Stanley plays back/Ruck...

Simpkin in.....
Seb Ross in.....

Blake out....
Newnes out...

Stanley to play on Ryder.... For the whole game. Back/Ruck

[dragit]

Surely Ryder will miss?

[kimberly saint]

Surely Ryder will miss?

going by ABC radio today thy think hes a goner

[sax]

Ross hasn't done anything. Not enough to get a game anyway

For mine, out: Blake, Newnes. In: Simpkin, Siposs.

[BigMart]

Hille will come in then.... He's smacked us so many times its not funny....

[BigMart]

Ha sent Ross played two excellent games??

[Teflon]

Surely Ryder will miss?

Doesnt have any white on his jumper...........he'll be fine.

[Teflon]

We're not picking a number 1 Ruckman..... Not sure where Hickey even fits... Unless Ben is injured

Master cannot be considered a Ruck option... Surely...

He's the second fwd... What happens to the fwd structure if he goes up?? Ben can't run 15m on the ball and be expected to roll forward and compete up fwd.
Also, what if he's opposed to a Ryder...

We need a forward Ruck....

Or Stanley plays back/Ruck...

Simpkin in.....
Seb Ross in.....

Blake out....
Newnes out...

Stanley to play on Ryder.... For the whole game. Back/Ruck

would love to see Stanley play Ryder....perfect foil.

[rexy]

Stanley needs to play as a key tall defender IMO.

Sippos got dropped after a shocker and has not played a game since at any level, how would you justify his selections?

[Wrote for Luck]

with Wright and Roberton and Stanley all new contributions to our defence, and with Dempster and Gwilt and Simpkin to come in (Blake must go out) it means we can turn Newnes into a developing mid who can get forward and kick goals, and can tag.

Jones would go out. watching the way Hawks damage with their kicking from all over the ground you simply can't have kickers like Blake and Jones.

I think Siposs should be used as a medium forward because he is a natural.

generally speaking I would like to see Hickey play with McEvoy more than not. put the resting ruck in the forward line or on the bench. Lee would go out for now. Hickey can mark we have seen that but he can't kick too good. but we may have to accept that for now.

if not Stanley can play in the ruck for McEvoy short breaks. Chips and Roberton and Gilbert and Simpkin can hold the backline without Stanley.

[SainterK]

Be surprised if Ryder plays, Luke was concussed and subbed out, 2 weeks at least

[FQF]

Unless for horrendous injuries, Stanley should not be moved from full back for an extended stretch of time.
He is the type of player that needs stability and he is finally getting it and the success is coming. It would be total madness to destabilise him now.

[plugger66]

P66 you cannot help yourself. Go on a holiday - give us all a break.

You are right. I am sorry I stuck up for Milney in the last 3 years and now Geary. How silly of me. I have an idea. Put me on you foe list or actually write something to do with the thread. maybe a bit hard but surely you can manage. And if it was someone I respected I may have a break. You well you never say anything.

P66, as I am sure you are aware, it is not your comments and differing view to the OP on Milne, Geary etc as all football discussion is welcome....but rather your attack on the poster that is being referenced.

Personal attacks from you are so frequent that for 99% on the forum it is just sheer monotony. Any wit, or comedic value, that they may have had are long, long, past as you just roll them out time after time after time.

You have some good football points to make whether I personally agree with any of them or not, so please do yourself, and the forum, a favour by making your football points without the constant need to put someone down.

If you then have the occasionally crack at someone, it may then have some affect.

Meanwhile you are just the grumpy guy in Up waiting to be rescued from your own self-inflicted sourness by the boy scout.

Lighten up and smell the roses....

You wouldnt meet a person more relaxed and if someone saying someone else is hilarious is a personal attack so be it. This guy has had a go at Milney for years. Now he is on Gearys case. Its ok to have an opinion but not an uninformed opinion. If i said Plugger was no good I would expect an attack on me.

[borderbarry]

There would be no attack on you Plugger. Everyone would assume you were talking about yourself.

[plugger66]

There would be no attack on you Plugger. Everyone would assume you were talking about yourself.

Very good barry.