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Teflon · Post: # 1311328Post **Teflon** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:38pm

Has been a disgrace for a few seasons now - we are in massive trouble out of the centre and were beaten when it mattered again tonight

You can not give sides multiple run ons from the centre and expect to keep any momentum.

Dal just gets shut out too easily and Hayes can't do it alone. Our midfield is lame and Armo and Jones (both ok tonight) are good , honest B graders

Midfield is in trouble

fugazi · Post: # 1311342Post **fugazi** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:41pm

Got to agree with this.....Monty will make a difference, but still wall papering over massive cracks in the midfield

SainterK · Post: # 1311350Post **SainterK** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:42pm

Joey in, jones out

Don't like the two ruckman, been big on that all preseason.

Nothing wrong with Daves game, dal tagged and barely sighted...whole that stinks, joey being absent just made it stink all the more

Richter · Post: # 1311352Post **Richter** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:42pm

Yep. Going to be plenty more pain until it turns unfortunately.

mad saint guy · Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:45pm

I don't think any combination of Hayes, Steven, Armo, Dal and Joey will ever be thrashed in the clearances. Which is why it is so disturbing to see the likes of Gilbert, Jones, Ray and Newnes in the centre square so often.

Teflon · Post: # 1311388Post **Teflon** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:49pm

Face fact for gods sake

We are STILL too reliant on aging MIDs
We have no star power coming through there
Time after time tonight the ball was bounced and simply went there way - to often , to easily

Massive problem as we fall away for quality terribly

lefty · Post: # 1311391Post **lefty** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:49pm

Why did we play Gilbert on Ablett, instead of Ray.

Gilbert isn't a midfielder. Tonight was a s*** effort. Got killed in the clearances.

Our forward line is s*** without Kosi, because as good as Wilkes is, he can't play a 2nd tall. He doesn't take big overhead marks.

Why do we always just boot the ball high and have our forwards stand under it and get the ball punched away. Where's the friggen leads.

TDL was shithouse as well.

andrewg · Post: # 1311395Post **andrewg** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:49pm

Jones out! Montagna in
TDL out anyone else in

Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:50pm

CLEARANCES are crucial.

The only players we have that should ever be in at centre bounces besides a ruckman are (in order)

STEVEN
ARMITAGE
HAYES
JONES
MONTAGNA

The rest haven't got a clue.

These 5 should rotate AND as for match ups ... match up AFTER the clearance ...

BigMart · Post: # 1311408Post **BigMart** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:52pm

But hang on??

We won taps??

The most important stat????

noob · Post: # 1311413Post **noob** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:53pm

I'm pretty sure we've been flogged in the clearances the last few years.

SainterK · Post: # 1311422Post **SainterK** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:55pm

Had this chat a bit haven't we tef.

Fallen away since big gardi left.

Terrible since 2011

bobmurray · Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:56pm

We are on the decline...it happens

Munga · Post: # 1311433Post **Munga** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:57pm

We haven't been great at clearances since the GT era

vacuous space · Sat 30 Mar 2013 10:58pm

noob wrote:I'm pretty sure we've been flogged in the clearances the last few years.

Fiction. We only lost the centre clearances six times last year. We haven't been as good around the ground, but we've still been above par in overall clearances.

Pwoit · Post: # 1311455Post **Pwoit** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:01pm

Our forward attacks always start from half back coz we are always getting smacked in clearances.
Tonight didnt help as we were missing 3/4 of our backline.

Richmond next week will be painful - we wont get near it in the middle and will be defending most of the time again.

8 goal loss i think next week

Richter · Post: # 1311462Post **Richter** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:02pm

SainterK wrote:Joey in, jones out

Don't like the two ruckman, been big on that all preseason.

Nothing wrong with Daves game, dal tagged and barely sighted...whole that stinks, joey being absent just made it stink all the more

Jones far from the worst.

To me we're playing too many non-mids through the midfield.

Milne and Saad very poor tonight. Milera marginally better.

Ray and Gilbert... Roberton...

Drop two of that six and play a couple more young mids for experience. We shall see soon enough... Tigers, GWS, Bombers, pies, Blues, Crows... we could easily be 1-6...

kalsaint · Post: # 1311480Post **kalsaint** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:06pm

Teflon wrote:Face fact for gods sake

We are STILL too reliant on aging MIDs
We have no star power coming through there
Time after time tonight the ball was bounced and simply went there way - to often , to easily

Massive problem as we fall away for quality terribly

Totally agree Teflon, we are a team that historically relied on the critical 5 other than during a couple of years under Grant and 3 years under Ross. Every other coach, including Gabby, has expereinced the dilemma of poor performance when 2 or more of the top five were beateb or tagged out. I reckon our win/loss ratio would look like 20/1 on these occasions.

We seem to have never had development and depth going at the same time.

Teflon · Post: # 1311494Post **Teflon** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:08pm

Im yet to see Ray or Gilbert win a clearance.

Jones in the last qtr was sadly the only mid that looked like he might win a clearance....before kicking it straight up in the air.

The sad thing is as others have said..........cause we basically lose the clearances we start from a position of defending - we have to work doubly hard to get our goals. Just cant do that.

Tigers have a good midfield - Tuck wins plenty in there not to mention Cotchin/Martin.....Deledio...

Teflon · Post: # 1311509Post **Teflon** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:11pm

kalsaint wrote:
Teflon wrote:Face fact for gods sake

We are STILL too reliant on aging MIDs
We have no star power coming through there
Time after time tonight the ball was bounced and simply went there way - to often , to easily

Massive problem as we fall away for quality terribly
Totally agree Teflon, we are a team that historically relied on the critical 5 other than during a couple of years under Grant and 3 years under Ross. Every other coach, including Gabby, has expereinced the dilemma of poor performance when 2 or more of the top five were beateb or tagged out. I reckon our win/loss ratio would look like 20/1 on these occasions.

We seem to have never had development and depth going at the same time.

Agree re development and depth.

Shame, imagine had we managed to support the top line mids we have had with some half decent players?

WinnersOnly · Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:34pm

I don't rate Laidley and never have isn't he the mudfield coach!

Teflon · Post: # 1311600Post **Teflon** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:42pm

WinnersOnly wrote:I don't rate Laidley and never have isn't he the mudfield coach!

Same here.

Never bought the "hes a tactical genius" cr@p and reckon hes a spud.

Kill to have Tudor back at our club.....but WA Inc gonna make that hard...

SainterK · Post: # 1311607Post **SainterK** » Sat 30 Mar 2013 11:45pm

Was he with us in 2011?

No that was harves.

Mids flying blind since gardi retired

hungry for a premiership · Sun 31 Mar 2013 1:51am

I reckon SW had a bad night in the coaches box. Some very questionable midfield moves, including Milera in the center square bounce!?

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