battye wrote:Siposs is probably the only good draft selection we've made in 5 years. Thank God Peake was able to convince RL...
So McEvoy, Armo, Steven, Newnes,and Simpkin (just off the top of my head) are hacks?
yeah righto
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battye wrote:Siposs is probably the only good draft selection we've made in 5 years. Thank God Peake was able to convince RL...
Efficiency just measures the percentage of disposals that were uncontested or long and to a contest. It's not really a good measure of quality. You can turn the ball over with an effective disposal and maintain possession with an ineffective one. Forwards usually have a much lower efficiency because their disposals are shorter and more contested. Cripps is down as having zero turnovers. I haven't seen the game, but I'm prepared to guess he wasn't nearly as woeful as some of this thread has suggested. He's also down as having won more than half his disposals in a contest and laid six tackles.magnifisaint wrote:Disposal efficiency is 37%
BigMart wrote:David Swallow was pre listed by GC and played VFL but was still pick 1 in 2010.
They got some local talent and were able to trade them for picks
Andrew Lovett could play a bit. So could Caydn Beetham and Dayle Garlett. Maybe there are important factors other than just on-field skill.BigMart wrote:Perhaps should have been, recruiters too busy looking for a reason not to draft a kid, they fail to see the most important thing..... Can he play??
St. Trav - who is MItch Brown's WAFL-alignment club? I'd like to keep an eye on him if he's not in the 22.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:word in Perth is Cripps has been pushing hard during training for selection and Worsfold has big wraps for him due to his work rate at training also Worsfold was happy with his preseason games (honestly i didnt even notice him in the game i watched ) .. good luck to him but i dont see him being in the team for too long not once the WCE top end mids start coming back ... on Brown he is again going to be playing more WAFL this year unless injurys hit the back line at the eagles .. come years end i still have doubts to if he will ever pull on a saints jumper as i reckon he will sign an extention mid year with Glass coming close to the end
East Fremantle, I think?Heidelberg_Saint wrote:St. Trav - who is MItch Brown's WAFL-alignment club? I'd like to keep an eye on him if he's not in the 22.
Glass is under an injury cloud too isnt he?? Hopefully Brown gets enough game time in the coming rounds to convince him to stay an Eagle..bergholt wrote:East Fremantle, I think?Heidelberg_Saint wrote:St. Trav - who is MItch Brown's WAFL-alignment club? I'd like to keep an eye on him if he's not in the 22.
If Mackenzie's injury keeps him out for a few weeks then we'll see Mitch in the AFL anyway.
Sobraz wrote:Glass is under an injury cloud too isnt he?? Hopefully Brown gets enough game time in the coming rounds to convince him to stay an Eagle..bergholt wrote:East Fremantle, I think?Heidelberg_Saint wrote:St. Trav - who is MItch Brown's WAFL-alignment club? I'd like to keep an eye on him if he's not in the 22.
If Mackenzie's injury keeps him out for a few weeks then we'll see Mitch in the AFL anyway.
BigMart wrote:Probably because he sits behind an all time great as a FB
Captain, Best and Fairest, All Australian...... Let us know how many actual Full backs have those credentials??
Brown would get a game at 8 clubs at FB
We would be ranked 18th in terms of having a quality FB
matrix wrote:oh look another thread spoiled and ruined by the one upmanship of tweedle dumb and tweedle f****** numpty
do you have to argue the point and completely ruin every thread on this site?
really?
He wasn't trying to be a hero . He was just stating facts. St Kilda offered him a start. Poured resources into him and at his first opportunity he wants to go back home. I think it stinks that WC got in his ear when he was back in Perth and I hope we pay them back in spades. Moving away from mummy and daddy when you are over 18 and earning good bank with a good support network is not terribly difficult. We have now lost, for good or ill, Ball, Dawson, Goddard, Walsh and Cripps, notwithstanding Tom Lynch - as well as our coach! We are hemmorhaging players at the moment and I hope that Cripps' career tapers off and he finishes up at East Fremantle or somewhere before he is 25.Bernard Shakey wrote:Well aren't you the hero! Good luck to you too.millarsaint wrote:If you take away the admittedly harsh language I don't think it is unfair to be a little sore. Our football club invested a lot into him and we got no thanks for it at the end of the day.dragit wrote:You guys are very harsh… 20 year old wants to return 3,500 KM to be near family, fair enough. Let him be.
I believe if a club selects you, especially first draft pick, then you have a healthy obligation to that club to return service. Maybe fifty games, maybe one hundred games, but give something back. It is otherwise disrespectful and does not boast strong character.
And what crock about a poor twenty year old man missing his family while trying to calve out an elite sports career. I had travelled around the world and living away from home (Perth) in Sydney by the time I was twenty. And I'm a big girl really.
I mean, you know, come on!
BigMart wrote:Probably because he sits behind an all time great as a FB
Captain, Best and Fairest, All Australian...... Let us know how many actual Full backs have those credentials??
Brown would get a game at 8 clubs at FB
We would be ranked 18th in terms of having a quality FB
I agree.plugger66 wrote:Sobraz wrote:Glass is under an injury cloud too isnt he?? Hopefully Brown gets enough game time in the coming rounds to convince him to stay an Eagle..bergholt wrote:East Fremantle, I think?
If Mackenzie's injury keeps him out for a few weeks then we'll see Mitch in the AFL anyway.
I agree. Why is seconds player a god amongst some Saints supporters. If we are going to trade this year at least get someone young or a regular firsts player.
samuraisaint wrote:He wasn't trying to be a hero . He was just stating facts. St Kilda offered him a start. Poured resources into him and at his first opportunity he wants to go back home. I think it stinks that WC got in his ear when he was back in Perth and I hope we pay them back in spades. Moving away from mummy and daddy when you are over 18 and earning good bank with a good support network is not terribly difficult. We have now lost, for good or ill, Ball, Dawson, Goddard, Walsh and Cripps, notwithstanding Tom Lynch - as well as our coach! We are hemmorhaging players at the moment and I hope that Cripps' career tapers off and he finishes up at East Fremantle or somewhere before he is 25.Bernard Shakey wrote:Well aren't you the hero! Good luck to you too.millarsaint wrote: If you take away the admittedly harsh language I don't think it is unfair to be a little sore. Our football club invested a lot into him and we got no thanks for it at the end of the day.
I believe if a club selects you, especially first draft pick, then you have a healthy obligation to that club to return service. Maybe fifty games, maybe one hundred games, but give something back. It is otherwise disrespectful and does not boast strong character.
And what crock about a poor twenty year old man missing his family while trying to calve out an elite sports career. I had travelled around the world and living away from home (Perth) in Sydney by the time I was twenty. And I'm a big girl really.
I mean, you know, come on!
And what good has it done Walsh and Lynch so far?
I think Cripps will be a "Filler" at West Coast this year. Where he goes from there is completely up to him.The Redeemer wrote:Cripps played a usual Cripps game.
He was in the game and then didn't do much for a few quarters and then bobbed up again.
Going back to Mitch Brown.
Why are we going to get a bloke that probably won't play much football this year considering he didn't play much last year?
There is no point.
Let's buy some other key back who actually plays consistently.
Any ideas?
He's contracted until 2014samuraisaint wrote: why don't we go for Frawley? We'll have some space in the cap at the end of the year.
James Frawley. End of.The Redeemer wrote:Cripps played a usual Cripps game.
He was in the game and then didn't do much for a few quarters and then bobbed up again.
Going back to Mitch Brown.
Why are we going to get a bloke that probably won't play much football this year considering he didn't play much last year?
There is no point.
Let's buy some other key back who actually plays consistently.
Any ideas?
Contracted until end of 2014 - and the Dees would want the world for him to break his contract - unless we are prepared to wait 2 yearssamuraisaint wrote:James Frawley. End of.The Redeemer wrote:Cripps played a usual Cripps game.
He was in the game and then didn't do much for a few quarters and then bobbed up again.
Going back to Mitch Brown.
Why are we going to get a bloke that probably won't play much football this year considering he didn't play much last year?
There is no point.
Let's buy some other key back who actually plays consistently.
Any ideas?